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CBS Reports 'Suspicious' Cell Phone Tower Activity In Washington DC (cbsnews.com)

"An unusually high amount of suspicious cell phone activity in the nation's capital has caught the attention of the Department of Homeland Security, raising concerns that U.S. officials are being monitored by a foreign entity," reports CBS News: The issue was first reported in the Washington Free Beacon, but a source at telecom security firm ESD America confirmed the spike in suspicious activity to CBS News. ESD America, hired preemptively for a DHS pilot program this January called ESD Overwatch, first noticed suspicious activity around cell phone towers in certain parts of the capital, including near the White House. This kind of activity can indicate that someone is monitoring specific individuals or their devices... According to the ESD America source, the first such spike of activity was in D.C. but there have been others in other parts of the country. Based on the type of technology used, the source continued, it is likely that the suspicious activity was being conducted by a foreign nation.
The news coincides with a letter sent to the DHS by two congressmen "deeply concerned" about vulnerabilities in the SS7 protocol underlying U.S. cellular networks, according to an article shared by Slashdot reader Trailrunner7. Senator Ron Wyden and Representative Ted Lieu are asking if the agency has enough resources to address the threat. "Although there have been a few news stories about this topic, we suspect that most Americans simply have no idea how easy it is for a relatively sophisticated adversary to track their movements, tap their calls, and hack their smartphones."

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  1. Holy shit Trump was right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Everyone is being wire tapped oh shit...

    1. Re:Holy shit Trump was right! by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Suspicious activity involving cellphone monitoring? Tell you what, start with the FBI, NSA, CIA, DHS, and local cops. On the remote chance that it isn't one of them, get back to me.

    2. Re: Holy shit Trump was right! by cthulhu11 · · Score: 2

      Given the cheeto administration, I suspect that suspicious activity means a black person using a phone.

  2. type of technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Based on the type of technology used, the source continued, it is likely that the suspicious activity was being conducted by a foreign nation."

    Is that because the US based three-letter-agencies just tap in at the service provider level?

    1. Re:type of technology by gweihir · · Score: 2

      Indeed. And they do not want anybody else to have everybodies dirty secrets!

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    2. Re:type of technology by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      I assume that someone with service provider MiTM access could do a bunch of SS7 weirdness, in order to confuse attribution; but that's my understanding: if you have privileged access at the provider level, you don't need to do anything to traffic routing/redirection that might attract attention, you can just grab a copy as it passes by; while if you don't have provider-level cooperation;, you either need to try to get the traffic sent somewhere you do have access to(or run the comparatively great risk of sending people out with stingrays to do it in person; which is likely a poor plan unless you are the local cops.

      Sort of like when something deeply unsettling happens to the world's BGP configurations. Ma Bell doesn't need to mess with those to tap your stuff; but some backwater that normally doesn't pass traffic worth spying on needs to modify things if they want to intercept something of interest.

    3. Re:type of technology by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      Indeed. And they do not want anybody else to have everybodies dirty secrets!

      Um...

      OK, yes, the FBI, NSA, CIA wiretapping is not good. Regardless of what you think of that (some people here seem to think its OK for some reason), there's surely no way a foreign agency doing is it OK just because they did.

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    4. Re:type of technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Indeed. And they do not want anybody else to have everybodies dirty secrets!

      Um...

      OK, yes, the FBI, NSA, CIA wiretapping is not good. Regardless of what you think of that (some people here seem to think its OK for some reason), there's surely no way a foreign agency doing is it OK just because they did.

      I was getting the impression that NSA wiretapping was only a problem when it was of Americans - that overseas tapping was fine. In which case foreign agencies tapping Americans is also presumably fine. Have I misunderstood?

    5. Re:type of technology by gweihir · · Score: 2

      Have I misunderstood?

      You have. Americans are _more_ equal than anybody else!

      (Or at least they believe they are. Turns out they are just sheep, same as anybody else.)

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    6. Re:type of technology by slashrio · · Score: 2

      Occam's razor tells me to first assume a local agency to be the suspect.

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    7. Re:type of technology by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 2

      I find it much simpler to just assume everything outside of my brain is public information.

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  3. Relax... by Gordo_1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's just the President's Russian friends making sure he's safe from Obama's wiretaps.

    1. Re:Relax... by currently_awake · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's probably just the local police trying out their stingrays. You need to experiment a bit to learn how to intercept phone calls without a warrant.

    2. Re:Relax... by fermion · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is much simpler. Trump uses an unsecured easily hacked phone, so every spy agency on the planet is monitoring it. Which is a stupid waste of money as all they need is a twitter feed, a tv, and a membership at his golf course because he tweet everything he thinks, he releases classified information on tv, and public ally classified information during dinner on his every weekend vacation.

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  4. The US government by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 3, Insightful

    is the preeminent spying, wiretapping, snooping, eavesdropping entity on Earth. Hell, we invented most of it. We should be proud that our snoopiness is so great that everyone wants to imitate us. What could possibly go wrong?

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    1. Re: The US government by johnsie · · Score: 2

      The UK government were 'wiretapping' Germans in WW2 and cracked their encryption. They then spent a lot of time bugging the IRA. More recently they have foiled a large number of Islamic and Irish dissident plots thanks to various forms of wiretapping. However when it comes to wiretapping Israel are the top dog. Israeli companies write the software that controls US phone networks and have been caught spying on Americans many times. It usually gets brushed under the table. Google "Fox News Israeli Spying On US" to hear it from a network that would normally be very supportive of Israel.

  5. I'm shocked!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every country on earth, barring North Korea has an embassy within pissing distance of the White House and Capitol and CBS "discovers" there's espionage. What grade did these people graduate from?

    I'm shocked to find out this is going on in this establishment.

  6. You are assuming by s.petry · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The NSA has taps on the hardware, but other agencies do not. If people are trying to do things outside of NSA control, they would need to come up with their own taps.

    The US has let security go to shit over the last decade. Foreign workers for "cheap" is a big problem, low moral from shitty treatment by administrations (happened long before Trump so don't bother with the dumbass blame game), corrupt administrators, and of course shit morals at companies executive levels.

    Of course it "could" be a foreign agency, but lets be real. If the other agencies were doing their jobs it would have been caught long before public attention on it.

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    1. Re:You are assuming by AHuxley · · Score: 4, Informative

      Could be ex and former staff selling mi/gov grade product to their cult, faith, embassy, other parts of the US gov, the private sector.
      Once the devices got handed out to NATO nations, the different EU nation police forces all their ex and former staff can sell the US product to the private sector.
      The US is now been flooded with its own products as once very secret tech finds its way into every embassy and the private sector.
      Other nations front companies, US dual citizens helping their real nations.
      The UK had the same issues. Some ore gov, mil other are just random efforts by different groups.
      What the UK did can often show what could be in the USA.
      Fake Mobile Phone Towers Operating In The UK (09 June 2015)
      http://news.sky.com/story/fake...
      UK Cops Using Fake Mobile Phone Tower to Intercept Calls, Shut Off Phones (10.31.11)
      https://www.wired.com/2011/10/...
      Fake mobile phone towers discovered in London: Stingrays come to the UK (6/11/2015)
      https://arstechnica.com/tech-p...

      The other US side would be to track US police, city workers to ensure they did not have a task force on any emerging private sector products or services.
      Once a map of every phone in a wide city area was tracked, tracking undercover officials would be easy given a lack of digital counter surveillance training.
      New "staff" or users reporting back into a government building every few days or weeks for a set time would be very easy to map.
      Another aspect would be to counter any journalist trying undercover work. Their origin and return to their place of work would be detected if they ever had two working phones with them. Their undercover story phone and their journalist phone.
      Other tracking could counter bloggers and web 2.0 attempts by citizen journalism to enter political parties or party political fund raising.
      They might make an error with two phones in use. One they used for undercover work in the past, one they use for their blog.
      Lack of cash could see device reuse and very easy tracking.
      Also the meeting of any gov worker, federal official, contractor, mil, political staff with any journalist would be tracked by the mil, gov, party, contractor. A vast database of journalist. A political and private sector version of the NSA's FIRSTFRUIT.
      The Most Intriguing Spy Stories From 166 Internal NSA Reports (May 17 2016)
      https://theintercept.com/2016/...
      “.. over 5,000 insecurity-related records” ranging from “espionage damage assessments” to “liaison exchanges.”
      Someone is not tracking the fake networks for some reason. Political over, mil, police or gov use? Gov workers detect the fake cell products and nothing is done?

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    2. Re:You are assuming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The US has let security go to shit over the last decade. Foreign workers for "cheap" is a big problem, low moral from shitty treatment by administrations (happened long before Trump so don't bother with the dumbass blame game), corrupt administrators, and of course shit morals at companies executive levels.

      Don't forget the criminalization of security testing / research, demands for backdoors in security products for "law enforcement" purposes, further limiting / removing control of the device from it's owner, demands to search devices without a warrant, increased dependance on online services, slaps on the wrist (if anything) for big companies that get hacked, a desire to push to release first and patch later / never, poor minimum standards for programming major students, OCD-ing on code beautification instead of robustness, the public being arrogant and ACCEPTING the idea that the government has (AND SHOULD!) have access to everything they do, etc.

      There's plenty of reasons why the US's security is shit, but it's not just administrators and bureaucrats. It's teachers, students, programmers, judges, law enforcement officers, lawyers, media industry rights holders, QA teams, and above all else, THE GENERAL PUBLIC. They don't care about security. They want it to "Just work". Well it does work, for you and everybody else. No taps needed. So why do they complain or even consider it newsworthy that someone is listening in on cell phone communications? Oh that's right, because they are arrogant and don't care to the point of deluding themselves that anything that they do online or off is safe.

      Captcha: apathy

    3. Re:You are assuming by Woldscum · · Score: 4, Informative

      Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA)

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      FBI through an office in Quantico can directly tap ALL network main switches. The government PAID AT&T and Verizon to upgrade the switches to IP. The FBI added Colo cabinets at the main switch sites. The FBI can wiretap directly WITHOUT interacting with Verizon or AT&T.

  7. All communication is monitored by rho · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is literally no way you can communicate with another person where you can be assured that your communication is not monitored. Even face-to-face communication in code is compromised, if the other party is compromised. Cell phones only work by collecting a lot of data about the caller and the caller's recipient. If CBS is only now figuring out that D.C. is a hotbed of cell data leakage, they are fantastically bad at their jobs.

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    1. Re:All communication is monitored by skids · · Score: 2

      CBS reported on the recent snowstorm. By your logic, "If CBS is only now figuring out that it snows in winter, they are fantastically bad at their jobs."

      Just because it isn't new to you doesn't mean it isn't news.

  8. Re:Nope. Trump was wrong again. by davester666 · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, they don't. Microwave ovens have video cameras. Toasters are for wiretapping. Duh. You can even see the wires when you look inside the slots.

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  9. Nothing To Worry About by nick_davison · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's not like America's Commander In Chief would be stupid enough to refuse a secure cell phone just so he can continue his 3am Twitter on the shitter regimen.

    Oh god. We're all doomed.

  10. Suspicious activity found in Washington DC by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    File this under, "no shit, Sherlock". I mean, has anyone gotten a load of the White House staff lately? We had a registered agent of a foreign government receiving national security briefings and holding the post of National Security Advisor before he was thrown to the wolves for being too obvious.

    The president just signed a license deal to use his name on a string of Chinese brothels. I mean, what the fuck? I miss the days when the worst thing a president did was get a blowjob from a 20 year old and lie about it.

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/07...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0...

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  11. Re: Nothing to worry about by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

    It'll be built by Mexican contractors whom Trump will stiff when it comes time to pay them.

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  12. Re:Might Just Be Trump Propaganda by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

    Trump is in a position where he needs to prove his wiretapping claim--and fast.

    Why? His campaign was built on lies which people willingly believed. I don't see how adding one more to the pile makes the slightest bit of difference.

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  13. Re: Nope. Trump was wrong again. by ebvwfbw · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The left has an easy format:
    If (what you said I don't like) then
        if (try (calling them a racist)):
          works: Done. You silenced them and don't have to actually discuss the topic that you know you'll lose because you're wrong.
          Doesn't work:
                If (try (calling them a bigot)): .... same for fascist, nazi, etc, then:
                          try (Smashing windows, burning cars):
                              Get your ass kicked good. Put into jail for a decade or so.

    OTOH, just call them a snowflake. Used to call them sheep, ... and so on or Democrats. Democrats are so gullible. So gullible that they have to pass laws to protect them from their own stupidity. Even in commerce - caution coffee is hot. These peanuts contain peanuts. Should just remove all the warning labels and let evolution work.

  14. Re: Nope. Trump was wrong again. by valdezjuan · · Score: 3, Informative

    For the record, no new laws were passed as a result of Liebeck v McDonalds and while she was awarded $2.9 million by the jury, the Jude reduced it to $480,000 which was settled later (after the verdict) for a lower amount. I know it's great to talk shit about this case, after all she was the passenger in a parked car that didn't have cup holders (old ford probe) and the temperate was one that would cause full-thickness burns in 2-7 seconds (of course with her adanced knowledge of thermodynamics & physiology, she should have known sweats were not the proper clothing). What I find sad, is that she originally tried to ask for $20k which would have covered the 8 days in the hospital and the loss of income her daughter received for staying with her for a week.

    Perhaps, as you might have outed yourself as a snowflake, you might want to research and look at facts. I know, facts aren't currently a priority of this country (if you are American, which I don't know because of, well, facts) and they are seldom cool on the internet (unless you actually work with the technology that runs it, then facts are everything) but for your own education, you might want to look into things. It's outstanding what can be learned if one tries.