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Apple iPad is a Faster, Cheaper iPad Air 2 (cnet.com)

Say good-bye to the iPad Air, it's just the iPad now. From a report on CNET: Apple announced on Tuesday morning that it will be dropping the price of the 9.7-inch iPad by $70. The tablet's A8X processor will be getting an upgrade too, jumping over to the A9 chip used in the iPad Pro. The upgrade will replace the iPad Air 2, but the iPad Mini 4 will live on, starting at $399. The updated pricing will start on Friday, at $329 for the 32GB model and $459 for the 32GB WiFi with cellular service model. It's Apple's cheapest iPad, after the company decided to replace the iPad Mini 2, which started at $269. Although Apple's iPad is leading the tablet market, it's still a tumbling one as demand takes a decline thanks to people holding onto their tablets longer.

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  1. Faster, cheaper, but also thicker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's back to the iPad Air1 thickness (including the non fully laminated display)

  2. Faster, cheaper iPad Air 1 you mean by SirMasterboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    The new iPad shares the same 7.5mm thick 1.03lb body as the iPad Air 1. It also shares the same non-laminated screen and no anti-reflective coating as the iPad Air 1. The Air 2 was 6.1mm thick, 0.963lb with a fully laminated screen with anti-reflective coating.

    The new iPad is an iPad Air 1 on the outside, with an A9 CPU (from iPhone 6S) on the inside and the camera and TouchID from the iPad Air 2.

    1. Re:Faster, cheaper iPad Air 1 you mean by Andrew+Lindh · · Score: 2

      Does it have a real headphone jack? Or did they remove that to make it cheaper?

    2. Re:Faster, cheaper iPad Air 1 you mean by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Does it have a real headphone jack? Or did they have the courage to remove that?

      FTFY

    3. Re:Faster, cheaper iPad Air 1 you mean by Anubis+IV · · Score: 0, Troll

      Basically, yup. The iPad Air 2 was effectively a prototype 9.7 inch iPad Pro, and bears more in common with the current 9.7 inch iPad Pro than it does with the new iPad, for exactly the reasons you specified.

      To be fair, the iPad Air 2 remains a great machine, and by all indications that trend has continued into the Pro line. I still use my iPad Air 2 on a daily basis and have no plans to replace it anytime soon, given that it's still operating just as well today as the day that I bought it. But with a situation like mine leading to fewer sales, it makes sense that they'd back off on the specs a bit and offer people a more entry-level model to the line, that way they don't leave such a huge umbrella in their lineup that a competitor can easily work under.

    4. Re:Faster, cheaper iPad Air 1 you mean by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This one INCLUDES the headphone jack - as seen here. Wonder why, though - did they get the message that nobody likes it's disappearing from the iPhone 7?

    5. Re:Faster, cheaper iPad Air 1 you mean by aliquis · · Score: 1

      How does it compare to Galaxy S tab 2, 3 and Asus Zenpad 3S? Lenovo Yoga 3? Sony had one too whatever that one was called ..

      The cheaper ... TrekStor? and C... 12-13" Chinese ones?

    6. Re:Faster, cheaper iPad Air 1 you mean by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      Does it have a real headphone jack? Or did they remove that to make it cheaper?

      No they made it cheaper by redefining cheaper as meaning costing $50 more.

    7. Re:Faster, cheaper iPad Air 1 you mean by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are they actually recycling old, unsold iPads?

    8. Re:Faster, cheaper iPad Air 1 you mean by martinX · · Score: 1

      IMO, Schools. That's all. Students use cheap headphones/headsets, not bluetooth doodads. We discussed BT headphones with our kids, but what killed it for me was having yet another device that needed to be power managed or it wouldn't work. So wires it is.

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  3. iFad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yah. I know that's old. Sitting here in a corp of Apple Worshippers (myself? some crappy 350$ netbook, with GNU/Linux on it -- tah horrors).

    All trying to talk me into a dead man's reality distortion field. Once a month I *have* to do something on an iFad, for bureaucratical reasons. Yuck.

  4. Honest question: what is the best... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...value Windows tablet that can run full Windows programs (not "apps")?

    1. Re:Honest question: what is the best... by Wdomburg · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It depends on what you're looking for specifically. At the moment every Windows 10 tablet can run full Windows programs, and they range anywhere from little 7" tablets you can pick up at Walmart for $69 to the top end Surface Book for $3199.

    2. Re:Honest question: what is the best... by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      HP makes some decent Windows tablets around the $100-200 range, depending on screensize and built-in cellular broadband (3G, 4G, etc.) I have a Stream 8 and I'm very happy with it - alas it's discontinued, but the Stream 7 is still around. The only issue is a lack of memory, but that's not as noticeable on these devices as you might think.

      HP has a good reputation for producing adequate hardware at prices that are not anything special. Whenever I'm in the market for computers that are just about good enough I generally check them first, so there's that.

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    3. Re:Honest question: what is the best... by ledow · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Go cheap.

      I bought my gf a tablet from Amazon that was the cheapest Windows 10 tablet I could find.

      It came with a one-year's Office 365 subscription and cost 100 GBP (that's about $124). It had a removable keyboard, just like the Surface, it functions well as a tablet, runs "full" Windows (she uses it for her Steam games, Skype, etc.).

      There's no need to pay $300+ for an iPad when you can have a Windows laptop for that, or three Windows tablets of a similar size

      The "brand" was something like Linc or similar. Who cares? It's in the "throwaway when it goes wrong" category, after the first year of warrantied use. She's had it now for over 2 and still uses it every day.

    4. Re:Honest question: what is the best... by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 0

      I came to say something similar. I bought my missus a £35 Amazon Fire Tablet for Christmas. It does everything she needs. If I were to buy a tablet again I'd feel a right chump if I spent more than £35 without a very good reason (or maybe the extra £10 to remove ads from the lock screen - although on the other hand, who cares since after 10 minutes the brain just ignores them).

      We haven't even side loaded the google app store yet (which isn't hard) as she's happy enough with the browser and using Calibre to load our e-books into Kindle.

      She certainly can't tell the difference between that and our old £200 Nexus 7.

    5. Re:Honest question: what is the best... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [...]Windows tablet that can run full Windows programs (not "apps")?

      At the moment every Windows 10 tablet can run full Windows programs...

      This is news to me! Previous AC explicitly excluded Universal Apps, which means you're saying that a $70 arm tablet will run x86 binaries?

      UPDATE: so it seems that even the cheapest Win10 tablet at has an intel atom(x86_64) processor.
      Furthermore, It seems microsoft has included an x86 emulation layer allowing 32-bit x86 code to be run on arm devices.

      Sorta makes sense. Apple did the same thing when moving to Intel via Rosetta. On linux, qemu has a way of directly running linux binaries of one arch on hardware of any other supported arch (no vm!)

    6. Re:Honest question: what is the best... by IRGlover · · Score: 1

      probably a Linx tablet (http://amzn.eu/7ol5pw3). We got some at work to try out, and for light use they aren't too bad. Not as speedy as a Surface Pro, but much cheaper and definitely capable enough for a bit of web browsing, simple Office use, etc. They have a micro-HDMI port so can easily be hooked up to a TV or monitor when necessary.

    7. Re:Honest question: what is the best... by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

      I would add that you should be cautious. Android invented the "landfill android" market, where the tablets themselves, technically ran (maybe) whatever apps are available in the google store, but performed so shockingly badly that they weren't fit for even the most basic purposes. Hell, I (mistakenly) bought one that ended up being so terrible that it wasn't even good enough for reading books or browsing basic web pages. Also, all but the most mainstream brands got zero updates so you were screwed for security. (Even the mainstreams are iffy)

      If Microsoft has allowed the same thing to happen with Windows-based tablets, then you will definitely need to do your research. As a start, don't even bother considering any tablet $300 if you want to do anything even vaguely useful with it.

      The most recent generation Surface tablets are apparently very good. I know someone who has one, and they are very happy with it. They of course cost, as parent pointed out, a heck of a lot more than some Walmart special.

      I can't speak for how updates are handled. I presume that since it's Windows, Microsoft pushes updates like any other desktop. (ie: whether you want them or not, and hopefully your machine won't get destroyed in the process)

    8. Re:Honest question: what is the best... by Wdomburg · · Score: 1

      Like I said, it depends largely on what your requirements are. We live in an age where a serviceable notebook computer can be had for $200 and a $50 Fire or Nook is actually a pretty solid choice for basic tasks.

      With Windows you also have a far more standardized architecture, with updates being provided directly by the software vendor rather than needing to be customized by each manufacturer. Upgrading the little Stream 7 tablet that I picked up for $49 a couple years back to Windows 10 worked fine. Hardly a speed demon, but still usable.

      I wouldn't necessarily recommend going extreme budget, but I also wouldn't recommend against it for someone with modest needs.

    9. Re:Honest question: what is the best... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Go expensive. Given that you're wanting to run full windows programs and not apps I'm guessing you actually want to do some real work on the thing. In that case I find the Surface line excellent and so does my partner, but my more budget conscious parents are loving their HP Elite x2

    10. Re:Honest question: what is the best... by Wdomburg · · Score: 1

      Yeah, weirdly the least compatible Windows tablet was created by Microsoft themselves. The original Surface ran the more proprietary "Windows RT" which did not support the full Windows runtime.

      That said, it is yet unknown what restrictions the upcoming "Cloud Edition" of Windows 10 will have. A leaked build seems to indicate this will at least optionally lock a device to the app store only, but it is unclear what types of devices this will be targeted at and whether that limitation can be disabled.

  5. Wrong Processor by derekthetech · · Score: 1

    Doesn't the iPad Pro use the A9X processor, not the A9 ?

    1. Re:Wrong Processor by Camembert · · Score: 1

      I think it is a typo. The Cnet article mentions "The tablet's A8X processor will be getting an upgrade too, jumping over to the A9 chip used in the iPhone 6S. "
      It does look like a decent tablet for a reasonable price.

  6. Much cheaper than the iPhone by fred6666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It amazes me that they can offer the iPad for so cheap compared to the iPhone. Most components are the same, but the display and battery (probably the two most expensive components) must be much more expensive on the tablet, because of the size.

    We can thank carrier subsidies. A lot of people buy phones they can't afford because of that. I doubt they would be going to the bank to get a loan if it wasn't offered by the carrier.

    1. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by nine-times · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Sometimes it costs more to get similar performance into a smaller package. A high-end ultrabook might be more expensive than a big clunky laptop with similar computing power, even if the big clunky laptop has a bigger screen.

    2. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What subsidy? Most plans now let you finance the phone for 24 months @ 0% interest, but you're still paying full fare for the phone.

    3. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably due to royalties on all the LTE technologies they have to license.

    4. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's just because Intel overcharges for their low speed, low power requirement CPU's.
      This processor that might be common in an ultrabook: https://ark.intel.com/products/76616/Intel-Core-i7-4600U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_30-GHz
      is less than half as powerful as than the comparable desktop i5: https://ark.intel.com/products/80815/Intel-Core-i5-4590-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz , yet costs twice as much.

      Apart from that you're just paying more for the OEM to actually do their job and get power management right so that the device doesn't go dead after 3 hours of idle time.

      I'd say 90% of the reason why iPhones are more expensive is the carrier subsidies (or often loans) which keeps buyers from realistically evaluating the costs; this is true going back to the days of the ipod touch which was 80% of the hardware for 25% of the cost.

    5. Re: Much cheaper than the iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It has 'high-end' and 'ultra' in it's name. It's supposed to be expensive!"

    6. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by ledow · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It amazes me that the iPad is so damn expensive in the first place, given what it is.

      That they bolt on about 50% profit for the phone model is chickenfeed in comparison.

      Honestly, I bought a GBP 5 Android tablet the other day. Technically it beat most of the iPad Mini specs that are its closest rival. Sure, you can argue "screen resolution" but why would you on such a tiny device to start with?

    7. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      Most plans let you finance the phone for 24 months at 15-50% ARP, yet people are still gullible enough to think it's a subsidised price.

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    8. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      Sometimes it costs more to get similar performance into a smaller package.

      Sometimes, but not in that case. They use the same components. The A9 CPU in the iPhone is NOT a miniaturized version of the A9 in the iPad.

    9. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      The 0% interest is the subsidy.

      My point of view is that if you don't have $700 for a phone, you can't afford a $700 phone, period, even if you finance it on two years.

    10. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      I bought a GBP 5 Android tablet the other day.

      Brand/model?

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    11. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Not just carrier subsidies but the radio in them is significantly different. Anytime you change a radio around (even if you're changing frequencies for different carriers or modulation), be ready to shell out big time for an FCC certification.

      The iPad on the other hand just has BT/WiFi so much less strict regulations and as long as you keep the board and antenna's the same, putting a different shell on them isn't all that expensive.

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    12. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by myowntrueself · · Score: 4, Funny

      It amazes me that the iPad is so damn expensive in the first place, given what it is.

      That they bolt on about 50% profit for the phone model is chickenfeed in comparison.

      Honestly, I bought a GBP 5 Android tablet the other day. Technically it beat most of the iPad Mini specs that are its closest rival. Sure, you can argue "screen resolution" but why would you on such a tiny device to start with?

      Don't knock it, its probably more powerful than the Mac Pro by now.

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    13. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by ledow · · Score: 2

      And that's why your devices are expensive.

      No idea of the brand.
      No idea of the model.
      Just works.

    14. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by MachineShedFred · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's because Apple has been ignoring the iPad Mini for like 3+ years now. Seriously, what have they done with it since putting the Retina display in it? Add the TouchID that all other iOS devices have, and throw us a bone with storage. It's the red-headed stepchild of tablets. If you really want to make it look like shit, compare it to the Nvidia Shield K1 that is now like 14 months old, and better in every way at practically half the price.

      I really like the form factor of the iPad Mini, but Apple seems hell bent on not making products I want, and in fact killing off the line of products that are even close.

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    15. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by ranton · · Score: 2

      My point of view is that if you don't have $700 for a phone, you can't afford a $700 phone, period, even if you finance it on two years.

      While I agree it isn't wise to have a $700 phone if you don't have $700 available in your checking account, it is also unwise to pay for the phone up front if you can get 0% financing.

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    16. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 1

      I can't speak for the OP, but as I just posted above - a £35 (sale price, but on sale often) Amazon Fire Tablet does everything any other tablet can do. And if it doesn't, you can side load the google app store. My wife certainly hasn't found anything missing.

      If someone wants to pay 10x the price for a slightly nicer screen then good on them, but I can't see the value for a 7 inch picture.

    17. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      Even the cellular iPad is less expensive than the iPhone.
      And we all know they make much more profit on the cellular iPad. The radio is not worth $130. You can get stand-alone WiFi/Cellular hotspot for that price. As well as cheap smartphones.

    18. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by jabuzz · · Score: 1

      I think the concept of asking for brand and model is that a 5GBP tablet is unbelievably cheap. The cheapest I can see on eBay for a new tablet is around 30GBP for a 7" model running KitKat, which is doggy ancient these days.

    19. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      Agreed, except if that means getting a SIM-locked phone for the same price as an unlocked one, as it is often the case with the iPhone.
      The interest you save on two years isn't worth the hassle/unlock cost.

    20. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by nine-times · · Score: 1

      First, you're just talking about the CPU. IT says nothing about the other components. But let's set that aside for a second.

      When you actually look at the numbers, the iPhone SE has the same CPU and the same basic functionality as the new iPad. It appears to have a nicer camera, and can also make phone calls. It's about a quarter of the size and weight, which can be good or bad, depending on your needs. When you compare the 32GB iPhone SE with the 32GB iPad with cellular, the iPad is actually $60 more expensive.

      It doesn't seem to me to support the idea that the iPhone's price is artificially inflated by carrier subsidies.

    21. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most of the world does not use carrier subsidies. Don't let that cloud your fine analysis though.

    22. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      Not with Apple's upgrade program . Unlocked phone, no interest, and if you want to you can trade it in after a year. I look at it leasing the most recent phone for about $1.20 a day. Considering how much I use it that's a good low-friction deal. No headaches.

    23. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      I am not just talking about the CPU. Other chips (RAM, flash) are not smaller on the iPhone.
      The iPhone SE is cheaper, but that's because, as I said, the cellular version of the iPad is overpriced. The cellular radio can't be worth $130 since you can get cheap smartphones at this price. The ability to make phone calls doesn't add any hardware cost since their is already a microphone and speaker.

    24. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      When you are calculating the daily cost of a phone, you are doing it wrong. Just like those calculating the weekly cost of a car.

    25. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by aliquis · · Score: 1

      £5 tablet?

      Where?

      I don't know what the devices cost so .. Can't comment, you two seem to disagree on which device have the most profit? No?

    26. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by gravewax · · Score: 1

      The IPhone is sold at a ridiculously high price, one that cannot be justified by the tech but simply by people willing to pay. The Ipad is no different, it doesn't sell at such a high premium as the iPhone as it has a far more competitive and declining market, look at the competitions tablets though and then you will start wondering why the fuck is an ipad so expensive, similiarly if you look at Iphone's competitors you will wonder the same.

    27. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Seems like you're just looking for a reason for the fact that your pants are in a twist.

    28. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If think the point is that $1.20 is barely any money at all. Surely almost anybody on Slashdot can afford such a small expense, whether you pay up front or on lease.

    29. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by radarskiy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It amazes me that people have already forgotten that Apple is why tablet prices are so low. Just before the iPad came out, people were seriously anticipating $899 or $999 starting prices from Apple and figuring they could sell an Android competitor at $699. The actual $499 base price for an original iPad shocked the tablet industry.

    30. Re: Much cheaper than the iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The PCB will be more complex and expensive on smaller board that does same thing as larger board. From both design time and materials cost.

    31. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      When you are calculating the daily cost of a phone, you are doing it wrong.

      Maybe I am. Please explain.

    32. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      A phone has a price, say $700. No matter how you split it up to months, weeks, days or milliseconds, it is not going to be any cheaper. So any calculation of the sort is useless. Most people are not being paid by the day anyways.

    33. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      That's why I'm asking the brand/model, to see if I can find it as cheap as this in Canada.

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    34. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by ledow · · Score: 1

      I've bought at least three 10GBP ones from Amazon Today's Deals.

      There's one hanging in my office window now. No idea of brand (it's just plain and blank, but I think it puts up a logo when you turn it on, I just can't turn it off at the moment as it's on wireless and does stuff all day long).

      We use them as everything from digital signage to server monitors.

    35. Re:Much cheaper than the iPhone by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      So it's not that I'm wrong, you just don't like the units? As for being "useless", that's hardly the case. It makes it easy to compare to the cost of various things people do every day, such as buying coffee or cigarettes or whatever. For me, I would much rather choose the phone than, say, a cup of coffee.
      And what in the world difference does it make how often someone is paid? Do you normalize every price to your salary frequency?

  7. Re:Faster, cheaper, but also thicker - AND HEAVIER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jony Ive must be rolling in his gra... oh wait he's still alive. Damnit, and here I was hoping for a Mac with a decent assortment of ports on it again someday.

  8. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    such innovation! I wish Steve was still herel. Apple continues down the path of disappointment.

    1. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey at least unlike android devices i can update the os on an ipad, my samsung tablet is stuck on some old vulnerability ridden version of android so i can't use it for anything on the web, and the api level is too low to even run apple music...woo, it's got an sdcard slot, it's so open! ... too bad it's also obsolete!

    2. Re:wow by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      As it's been said before, that's not the fault of "android" - that's the fault of shitty manufacturers.

      Nvidia just released Android 7 for the Shield K1 tablet, even though they've discontinued production. Not a whole lot of other manufacturers out there that would continue development on something they no longer sell.

      And that tablet is still one of the best (if not THE best) 8-inch android tablet you can buy, even though it's 14 months old. Every manufacturer is sitting atop a big pile of laurels right now, and wondering why the market is shrinking.

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    3. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't care whose "fault" it is, the user experience sucks, end of story.

    4. Re:wow by beanpoppa · · Score: 0

      Not a good comparison. Even in a 4 year old Android device that is stuck on KitKat, it still receives updates for Gmail, Google Play Services, play store, etc. Much of the operating system is modular, and continues to receive automatic updates from Google. On iOS, everything is packaged into a single iOS update.

  9. I need a new iPad... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 0

    My iPad 2 is getting long in the tooth after five years. I only use it for the alarm clock app that blast an air raid siren at 4:30AM so I can catch the express bus at 6:00AM to start work at 7:00AM in Palo Alto.

    1. Re:I need a new iPad... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      I'm still using a first generation iPad mini, which I believe has the same internals as the iPad 2. It still works well enough for what I want it to do - read the web, play games, watch baseball games. And considering it's a a four year old device, the battery life is actually still decent.

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    2. Re:I need a new iPad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Explain creimer why people choose to live in or around SV if they have a low paying job (compared to tech workers)? If the cost of living and especially housing market is too expensive for teachers, custodians, gardeners, retail, bus drivers, etc. those types of jobs are available in any city with a higher quality of life.

    3. Re:I need a new iPad... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Explain creimer why people choose to live in or around SV if they have a low paying job (compared to tech workers)?

      Explain AC why you're asking an off-topic question?

    4. Re:I need a new iPad... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      And considering it's a a four year old device, the battery life is actually still decent.

      I had a first generation iPod Touch that lasted eight years before the battery died. Battery life was touch and go for the last year or so.

    5. Re:I need a new iPad... by scubamage · · Score: 1

      I am actually looking at this to replace my iPad 2. With the trade in credit I can get, it may be a worthwhile upgrade. At this point my iPad is barely able to open the PDFs I constantly throw at it without pausing to think constantly. Definitely showing its age.

    6. Re:I need a new iPad... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      With the trade in credit I can get, it may be a worthwhile upgrade.

      Thanks for the heads up. I'm seriously looking into trading in my iPad 2.

  10. What about all the other rumors? by mbourgon · · Score: 1

    Weird announcement - no dog and pony show, just a website update and some new info. And there's all the rumors about new hardware. As an Apple-head who wants to replace an older iPad, I'm torn. Get a mostly-better for less, or wait and hope they've got something coming in a month?

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    1. Re:What about all the other rumors? by shilly · · Score: 1

      Apple has always done some fairly low-key upgrades as well as the big splashy ones.

  11. Wait...new iPad? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    WTF is with Apple's fear of the number 3?

    The iPad 3 was not the 3 - it was the New iPad

    Now the iPad Air 3 is a New iPad, but is neither the Air nor the 3.

    Is this what you get when you have marketers sit around a table and you ask them to brand your new device revision and you just get blank stares back?

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    1. Re:Wait...new iPad? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      They should just go with the year of release. Oh wait, can't do that because if they skip a year people will notice.

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    2. Re:Wait...new iPad? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      They've been doing that with Mac for over a decade.

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    3. Re:Wait...new iPad? by Comboman · · Score: 1

      But the iPhone 2 was called the iPhone 3G (and the iPhone 3 was the iPhone 3GS).

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    4. Re:Wait...new iPad? by edxwelch · · Score: 2

      There's using the same naming logic as the Fast and Furious movies (i.e. random out of sequence numbers)

    5. Re: Wait...new iPad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking of, I seen the commercial for the new one called... wait for it..."The fate and the furious." Get it? F8.

      4Head NotLikeThis

    6. Re:Wait...new iPad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Apple III was a significant failure. they learned the wrong lesson from it.

    7. Re:Wait...new iPad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But in 2017 who would buy a 2013 mac pro?

    8. Re: Wait...new iPad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I predict a 9th in Germany.

    9. Re:Wait...new iPad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't want numbers anymore, so they can sell they same model for several years without the average consumer noticing.

  12. Just what I was waiting for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is exactly what I was waiting for. I'm buying 2 of the new 32GB iPads as soon as I can get my hands on them (for the kids), and if Apple updates the iPad Pro later this year, I'm going to pick up one of those for myself. Good job Apple (it's about damn time).

    1. Re:Just what I was waiting for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Cool story

  13. Re:Apple's fear of number 3... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is probably due to the Apple III fiasco back in the early days... Although they DID release at Macintosh LC III in the 90s.

  14. Too Little for Too Much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I bought an iPad last year for entertainment purposes for my travel. I had a first generation one, but that one was obsolete long ago because it can't go past iOS 5 and so most new apps won't work. Heck, even old apps won't work. I'm mostly disappointed with my new purchase.

    The problem is that some apps are written for iPhone only...why is there a difference? It's the same goddamn OS. Like, how is there not vector scaling of graphics? Instead, you can view it at iPhone screen size, occupying about 30% of the iPad screen, or blow it up to 2x...which results in blocky text since it's just a zoom, not re-render for the higher resolution. Southwest Airlines, for instance, doesn't have a full iPad app. It was only recent that Hilton got a full iPad one. Other airlines don't have them either. As a frequent business traveler, these apps take up half my installs. I suppose if I dig deeper I'd find that there are even more apps that are iPhone only.

    That makes it an entertainment device for me. That's mostly what I bought it for but...$500 to watch some TV on the plane and surf the internet is a bit much. It can't really do anything else. They probably need to move it to its own version of OS X so it can compete with Windows tablets. "BUT BUT BUT..." you might say, and then follow that with "...then developers will have to write separate apps for it and can't just use the iPhone apps!" Except they already have to do that, unless they're content to provide a reduced functionality version meant for a 4" screen. So what's the difference? If Apple had its act together, they could make an emulator for OS X that runs iPhone apps and just let that run on the revised iPad.

    Instead, they are trying to sell 2011's innovation in 2017 and wondering why the sales keep dropping.

    1. Re:Too Little for Too Much by shilly · · Score: 1

      How is it Apple's fault that Southwest Airlines haven't released an iPad-specific version of their app? It's also very clear why Southwest haven't done so: the vast majority of the use case that they're addressing are travellers moving to and through airports, who are much, much more likely to access the app on their iphones than on an ipad.

      There's plenty of business-focused apps that are optimised for iPad because that's what their target market will be using. But they're very vertical-specific, by and large. If you're a dentist who does implants, 3Diemme's solution is excellent: http://www.3diemme.it/en/produ... If you're a pilot, you are very likely to be using an electronic flight bag (developed in-house, mainly). That's where the value is for business.

  15. Tumbling Demand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The demand isn't tumbling because people are holding onto their tablets longer, it's because people are not even using the tablets they own. Phone screens have gotten larger since the iPad was introduced, and they are more than adequate for most tasks thought to be suited for tablets. Tablets are simply niche products.

  16. Why does apple always screw me over by daveywest · · Score: 1

    I was in the market for a smaller iPad. I've had my 16GB iPad 4 for several years, but it seems to choke on newer apps. I really wanted a new iPad Mini, but I'm not buying a model that's two years old at any price. Apple has billions in cash, but they can't seem to engineer regular updates into their product lineup since Jobs died.

    1. Re:Why does apple always screw me over by Moof123 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yep, giant "M'eh".

      Macs were outdated by time their did their last refresh. Mac Pro is a farce at this point. Mini is a severely overpriced 2 core puck. Years old mobile guts in fancy packaging at Gucci prices.

      Itunes got mangled beyond recognition to integrate it with Apple Music. hard to search without getting a big screen full of stuff to buy instead of stuff in my library.

      iPhone is the only thing getting any love, and it has become a me-too follower of Samsung (though less fire and bribery prone).

      For a company that has expanded greatly over the recent years they seem to be doing a lot less. Well, a lot less products and a lot more ego stroking anyway. What the hell are all those people doing? Spinning the motherboard yearly to keep everything up to date should be a baseline expectation, and nothing viewed as even innovative, just doing their job.

      Sigh.

  17. Tablets as durable goods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honestly, none of this will change the downward trend of sales. Anyone who wants a Apple tablet probably already has one, and there just hasn't been any game changer function or feature to justify buying a new one. Even worse, they have been out long enough that the old/refurbished market actually exists, and is a practical alternative for anyone who doesn't care for features like finger ID, portrait cameras, or whatever else is new.

    No, its not a typical durable good (like a washing machine), but in context of electronics, it does not evolve quick enough to warrant yearly re-purchases.

    1. Re:Tablets as durable goods by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      The only real argument I can see for new over used is battery life. Sometimes used items have a worn out battery.

  18. Yeah, totally drop your numbering system... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... That's not confusing at all! Thanks, Apple!

  19. Just speculating, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I believe there's two reasons for that:

    1) They're not innovating, only upgrading. This "new iPad" (which should probably be called the "new iPad 2", since the first "new iPad" was generation 3) is an iPad Air with its CPU upgraded to an A9. There's nothing else new to celebrate about it.

    2) They need something spectacular to announce to complement their new two billion dollar complex, and this just isn't spectacular. Something spectacular is coming later.

    3) (What's probably spectacular...) They're gearing up for an iPad Pro update, but it's not ready yet. The rumor mill is speculating that there will be a newer 10" iPad w/o a bezel that will become the new iPad Pro, as well as an upgrade to the 12" iPad Pro. If Apple wanted to save the pomp and circumstance for something worth celebrating, this would be it.

  20. Soooo, the real headline should read.... by Texmaize · · Score: 1

    The O.P. nailed the true up(down)date. The headline should read:

    "New iPad gets faster and cheaper, but it is uglier with lower quality screen."

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  21. Thicker: So what ? by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Do you really need that much to be able to cut cheese with your tablet ?!

    I understand that it's preferable for gadgets not to weight 1 metric ton, and not to be as fat as a cinderblock, but as long as they are portable does it really make sense to chase after every last millimetre ?

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    1. Re:Thicker: So what ? by zugmeister · · Score: 1

      but as long as they are portable does it really make sense to chase after every last millimetre ?

      There's a huge difference between "portable" and "I can comfortably hold this with one hand for an extended period of time".
      The use case for a laptop as opposed to a tablet can be quite different.

  22. iPad Air 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So it's got an iPad Air 1 body on the outside, and screen, and it has iPad Air 2 internals... it's a marriage of the Air 1 and Air 2. It's Air 1 + Air 2.

    Um... Air 1 + Air 2 = (Air) (1+2) = Air 3.

    Is Apple mathematically challenged? Arithmetically challenged? Numerically challenged? Calling it just "iPad" without specifying what the fuck it is, (it's basically the Air 3, more advanced than the 1 on the inside, but LESS advanced than the 2 on the outside.

    Or maybe it's more like...

                    1 + 2
    iPad Air --------- = iPad Air 1.5
                      2

  23. What shape is your hand ? by DrYak · · Score: 1

    There's a huge difference between "portable" and "I can comfortably hold this with one hand for an extended period of time".

    Again, we're not speaking about something shaped like a brick.

    We're speaking about 6.1mm vs 7.5mm.
    i.e.: differences in the mm range, in a object that's less than 1cm thick.

    What weird shape does a hand have so that a 6.1mm thick object can comfortably fit for an extended period of time, but a 7.5mm thick object suddenly can't anymore ?!
    I just can't get why people are paying so much attention to mm differences in objects that are thin enough for nearly all most common use cases...

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