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SixXS IPv6 Tunnel Provider Is Shutting Down (sixxs.net)

yakatz writes: SixXS started providing IPv6 tunnels in 1999 to try to break the "chicken-and-egg" problem of IPv6 adoption. After 18 years, the service is shutting down. The cited reasons are:

1) growth has been stagnant
2) many ISPs offer IPv6
3) some ISPs have told customers that they don't need to provide IPv6 connectivity because the customer can just use a tunnel from SixXS

This last reason in particular made the SixXS team think they are doing more harm than good in the fight for native IPv6, so they will be shutting down on June 6.

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  1. People don't care because ipv4 works for them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Most people are not affected by ipv6 so they don't care. So do the established ISPs. Most established ISPs sit on a big ipv4 pool and it would cost them to upgrade their legacy infrastructure. Newer ISPs are more hurt by ipv4 drying up as they don't get big chunks of ipv4 addresses any more, and need to do carrier grade NAT and similar strategies. So there is some motivation by them to aid in ipv6 adoption. Also, they do everything from scratch so deploying dual stack is easier for them.

    However, as long as everything works^{tm} on ipv4 networks as well, nobody will switch. What we need is ipv6 only, mainstream, services, to force home user facing ISPs to support ipv6, and ipv6 only customers, to force website owners to support ipv6.

    Just take google, they could easily give bonus points in their search result for web sites that support both ipv4 and ipv6. This would motivate countless site owners to do a switch.

    1. Re:People don't care because ipv4 works for them by BradMajors · · Score: 3, Informative

      No business in its right mind would go IPv6 only if it had a choice

      Facebook Moving To An IPv6-Only Internal Network

      http://www.internetsociety.org...

  2. IPv6 tunneling by DrYak · · Score: 4, Informative

    i will admittedly say i have no idea what sixxs is

    SixXS was a free IPv6 tunneling service, so that people with only IPv4 provider can still get access to IPv6 addresses through a 3rd party.
    (But more reliably than 6in4 which is dependent on the dynamic IPv4 address, and relies on volunteer servers reached though anycast).

    The idea was to break the chicken-and-egg problem faced by IPv6 migration :
    - content provider don't care about moving to IPv6 because nobody is using it and most people are still on IPv4
    - and ISP not spending the effort to provide IPv6 to their clients, because there's no IPv6 content to justify the move.

    SixXS provided a 3rd party with a very reliable way to get onto IPv6, so at least the "there are no users" excuse isn't valid anymore.

    Now fast forward a decade and a half later and nowadays a lot of content providers *ARE* on IPv6 (e.g.: Google, most universities, etc.), but there are still ISP not providing IPv6 on their network (e.g.: using something like 6rd, which basically works like 6in4 but relies on official servers with fixed address that is owned and operated by the ISP),
    Instead of that ISPs let the users go use SixXS, for the users who want IPv6. So rely on a free 3rd party service, instead of putting the efforts themselves to enable IPv6 for their own users as they should be doing.

    So SixXS is shutting down to force ISPs to setup and listen to their users and provide IPv6, instead of deferring it to SixXS.

    its sad to see them go since it was a free service, providing a service for people without means.

    The thing is, SixXS was providing a service that should in theory be provided by the ISPs themselves, but some are too lazy to implement IPv6 even after almost 2 decades.

    (and it's not for people without means. Technically, it's for people who have the means to pay an ISP for a connection, but said ISP is damn shit lazy and doesn't care to provide something more modern than last century's IPv4)

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