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US Ordered 'Mandatory Social Media Check' For Visa Applicants Who Visited ISIS Territory (theverge.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has ordered a "mandatory social media check" on all visa applicants who have ever visited ISIS-controlled territory, according to diplomatic cables obtained by Reuters. The four memos were sent to American diplomatic missions over the past two weeks, with the most recent issued on March 17th. According to Reuters, they provide details into a revised screening process that President Donald Trump has described as "extreme vetting." A memo sent on March 16th rescinds some of the instructions that Tillerson outlined in the previous cables, including an order that would have required visa applicants to hand over all phone numbers, email addresses, and social media accounts that they have used in the past. The secretary of state issued the memo after a Hawaii judge blocked the Trump administration's revised travel ban on citizens from six predominantly Muslim countries. In addition to the social media check, the most recent memo calls for consular officials to identify "populations warranting increased scrutiny." Two former government officials tell Reuters that the social media order could lead to delays in processing visa applications, with one saying that such checks were previously carried out on rare occasions.
What if I don't have any social media accounts. And what constitutes a "Social Media Account"? Is this just the big ones like Facebook and Twitter? Or does it include all of the off-shoots that tweens are into these days like Instagram, SnapChat, etc.? How about defunct Social Media Accounts like MySpace?
Does it include ANY website that you communicate, like our very own Slashdot, and any random forum you belong too for hobbies, and GitHub and other sites that facilitate communicating with others over certain topics?
The reason for this is to find "terrorists", but how many terrorists are dumb enough to give over their accounts that they use to actively proclaim jihad on the world with? I understand you have to vet people for certain things, but I'm not sure how this will really help, being that it sounds like it's on the "honor" system that you are being truthful and turning all of your accounts over. It also has the flaw in that it assumes that you have Social Media accounts to begin with which many people do not.
*ever*???
Personally, I know I wouldn't even be able to begin to comply with this kind of demand. I don't remember all of the old phone numbers I've had. All social media accounts? Does that include aliases on bulletin board systems from the 1980's? Again, I couldn't comply because I don't remember them all. I probably have about a half dozen expired email accounts at old internet service providers, some of which don't even exist anymore, where I can maybe remember half of them.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
You need a visa to return to the US after vacation? Or did you miss that part of the full title.
Non-citizens who want to take a vacation with our enemies have volunteered for a little extra scrutiny when they then want to visit us.
Hint: this is for Visa applications. That is, for foreigners who aren't allowed to visit America without one, and are supplying this information in their own country.
And it's for Visa applications from people who like to hang out with ISIS, which should be an automatic denial in any sane world.
Reuters version -- "applicants who have ever been present in territory controlled by the Islamic State" * (link)
Verge version -- "applicants who have ever visited ISIS-controlled territory" (link)
Parent version -- "applications from people who like to hang out with ISIS" (above)
* Comprised in the majority of citizens who were victims, prisoners, kidnapped, abused, forced slaves and wives, i.e., any brown-skinned refugees.
We know where leadership by an anti-intellectual "strongman" who scapegoats minorities and likes boisterous rallies goes
Admission of non-citizens into the US is not a right and is not subject to due process. Non-citizens can be denied entry for arbitrary reasons, not just in the US but also in all other countries on the planet. How do I know? I have lived in half a dozen countries and immigrated to the US.
Even as a citizen, you can be searched at the border.
The "ignorance and group think" is people like you who confuse legal protections of citizens with immigration procedures.
Quite apart from the legal issues, the NAACP stands up for the rights and advancement of a population that suffers from, on average, lower education, lower skills, and lower incomes. What possible reason would the NAACP have to advocate the admission into the US of even more people who compete for already scarce low skill jobs?
And it's for Visa applications from people who like to hang out with ISIS, which should be an automatic denial in any sane world.
Or all the folks who worked as contractors supporting US efforts in the region. I'm not in a Visa country, but I've been to several areas that have been controlled by Daesh, working as a civilian contractor.
...si hoc legere nimium eruditionis habes...
ISIL/Daash may want it pretend they do but ISIL is not actually running a country. They are one of the smaller rebel groups in Syria and Iraq. Being in the same area as a thinly spread bunch of criminals does not also make you are criminal, especially if you are one of the people actively fighting these criminals, such as the Kurdish groups that we provide military aid to. Those are the sort of people who will be visiting the USA and they are the sort of people who have already had a lot of problems with travel bans. Did you miss the disputes where the Pentagon had to get involved over the first travel ban? It was over people who were working for them from the same areas covered by this new bit of security theatre.
Admission of non-citizens into the US is not a right and is not subject to due process. Non-citizens can be denied entry for arbitrary reasons, not just in the US but also in all other countries on the planet.
On the other hand, the US signed a treaty (actually a couple) that says my wife and son, both not citizens of the USA, can wander into the USA any time they want. According to the American Constitution, treaties are the second highest law of the land, just below the Constitution. Of course America being America, all it takes is a Supreme Court Justice to say, "no, the Constitution actually means something else" and America has a long history of breaking their own laws and especially treaties. Probably the reason they dropped the u out of honour.
Through other treaties and such, my son also has the right to go to a few other countries as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
But shouldn't Saudi Arabia top that list, followed by Turkey and only then Iran and any other 'extremist' countries?
America's bedfellows are the biggest terrorist supporters in the Middle East, bar none.
>What journalists are going to need a visa to come to the US?
Every non-US national who wants to do journalism work in the US, no matter the duration of the stay. So this would include non-US journalists from many respected publications and agencies including AFP, the BBC, Al Jazeera (the English-language branch of which is stuffed with former BBC World Service talent), Der Spiegel, Le Monde, Financial Times, etc, etc, etc, not to mention non-US nationals who work for US-based services like the AP, Reuters, Bloomberg, etc, etc, etc.
It's been over a decade since the US tightened the visa restrictions so that everyone wanting to come into the country as a practicing journalist must have a visa, even if they're from one of the visa-waiver countries. You can bet that if you tick that box, you're already going to come under a lot of extra scrutiny (and if you don't, but then publish anything written about your time in the USA, expect to be denied entry the next time).
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