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US Scientists Launch World's Biggest Solar Geoengineering Study (theguardian.com)
In what will be the world's biggest solar geoengineering program to date, U.S. scientists part of the $20 million Harvard University project are going to send aerosol injections 20km (~12.4 miles) into the earth's stratosphere "to establish whether the technology can safely simulate the atmospheric cooling effects of a volcanic eruption," The Guardian reports. From the report: Scientists hope to complete two small-scale dispersals of first water and then calcium carbonate particles by 2022. Future tests could involve seeding the sky with aluminum oxide -- or even diamonds. Janos Pasztor, Ban Ki-moon's assistant climate chief at the UN who now leads a geoengineering governance initiative, said that the Harvard scientists would only disperse minimal amounts of compounds in their tests, under strict university controls. Geoengineering advocates stress that any attempt at a solar tech fix is years away and should be viewed as a compliment to -- not a substitute for -- aggressive emissions reductions action. But the Harvard team, in a promotional video for the project, suggest a redirection of one percent of current climate mitigation funds to geoengineering research, and argue that the planet could be covered with a solar shield for as little as $10 billion a year. Some senior UN climate scientists view such developments with alarm, fearing a cash drain from proven mitigation technologies such as wind and solar energy, to ones carrying the potential for unintended disasters. If lab tests are positive, the experiment would then be replicated with a limestone compound which the researchers believe will neither absorb solar or terrestrial radiation, nor deplete the ozone layer.
Global Thermonuclear Warfare. Nuclear winter and vast reductions in population will restore the ice caps, as well as permanently remove the "terrorist" threat. Of course, that will also make him the world's biggest terrorist, but you can be sure he's okay with being #1 at something other than "World's Biggest Loser."
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
This is a massive waste of money, and it's dangerous. When you move past the "adjustments" (fabrications) to climate data, there's no evidence the Earth is getting warmer. In fact, the Earth has been cooling slightly for the past few decades. Climate scientists have stated that sea ice is decoupled from global average temperates when they said that Antarctic sea ice would grow as the Earth warms. In the longer term, we're likely to descend back into another ice age, based on natural cycles. We actually need the Earth to be warm in order to support human civilization. Accelerating the process of global cooling is probably going to be incredibly damaging to human life. It's a waste of money because it's attempting to solve a problem that doesn't exist. It's also extremely dangerous. Let's not destroy human civilization because we believed the global warming lies. I'm certain I'll be modded down by moderators who are eager to censor my views, but that just underscores how Slashdot readers and scientists don't care about the truth and would prefer to silence it. The unadjusted data can be found and examined, but it's easier to most people silence the truth instead of accepting that they believe and have been promoting lies.
Wake Up Sheeple, this is proof chemtrails are reallllllll .
This sounds like the plot of Snowpiercer :
Do you want Snowpiercer? Because this is how you get Snowpiercer.
Nuclear warfare has been pretty much inevitable since the start of the cold war. That's a genie that humans won't be willing to put in a bottle because people are stupid as shit.
The "most imminent threat" is not North Korea. Any N. Korean nuclear strike would not cause crippling damage, and the retaliation would be pretty quick, and completely remove NK as a threat.
Both Kim Jong Un and Trump are in a contest to see who can take the title for Crazy Leader with Bad Hair - and Trump, at this point, is clearly in the lead. Trump has surrounded himself with people who will profit greatly from any war, as well as jeebus freaks who believe it's their manifest destiny to start armageddon. Of the two, Trump is the clear and present danger. But he's also the world's laughingstock.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
"US Scientists" have been lacing jet fuel with "aerosol injections" leveraging global aviation to disperse illuminati approved substances throughout the atmosphere."
"Future tests could involve seeding the sky with aluminum oxide -- or even diamonds."
Sounds like you're a bit too familiar with "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds".
Christians aren't killing people or threatening to use nuclear weapons on people who disagree with them. North Korea is actively developing long range nuclear missiles and everyone knows it. Muslims are continually plotting terror attacks against western nations as we sadly saw in London. Trump is busy trying to unite Republicans over health care, tax reform, and infrastructure. And you're an idiot.
Democrats allowed North Korea to develop nuclear weapons, and they are an imminent threat to use them.
Ummm, say what now? Are you just an idiot or are you intentionally trying to rewrite history? Because it was the Bush administration who completely ignored NK in favor of fucking up the Middle East. NK left the the Non-Proliferation treaty in 2003 and had their first successful test in 2006. Every single fucking existential threat that faces our country today is the direct result of Republican geopolitical policies.
Trump is busy trying to make Trump look good. And speaking of Trump, check out some of his comments on using nuclear weapons. He's arguably the most powerful Christian in the world at the moment.
There are Christian terrorist groups just like there are Muslim terrorist groups. In fact, the vast majority of 'terrorist' attacks in the US the past few decades have been by Christians.
Just because you wish something was true doesn't mean it is. I must be scary being that afraid of your fellow human beings.
We have just one earth that is habitable and these geniuses want to experiment with it. Diamond, Carbon, Aluminum. These things are not healthy in our lungs but they want to put it there?
So is it geo or is it solar? By definition, it cannot be both.
Christians aren't killing people or threatening to use nuclear weapons on people who disagree with them.
What about Vladimir Zhirinovsky? I'll grant there are some muslim terrorists, but in the USA there've been a whole bunch of terrorist attacks... we just call them "mass shootings" or "hate crimes" or "justified police shootings" depending on the source and the circumstances. Trump? Yes, great job he's doing "uniting" the country over his plans to create post-Soviet style oligarchy in an ever-increasingly repressed "Land of the Free" (to suffer because Puritan principals won't allow any publically funded social safety nets - which every civilization needs)...
Someone's been sitting in the echo chamber too long.
"Hey, that's a really nice aggressive emissions reduction action you've got there!"
It's complement.
Sounds like you're a bit too familiar with "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds".
Apparently it will be "Lufthansa in the Sky with Diamonds"
Mass transportation to 20 km altitude? Sounds like a job for the old u-2 spyplane. This could be cheap, unless a large amount of material needs to be transported.
hell, grind up recycled glass bottles into micron sized particles, and put on u-2 for dispersal into earth's atmosphere.
The proposed scheme reduces Earth's infrared energy surplus by reducing the amount of visible light reaching us from the sun. Photosynthesis requires certain wavelengths of visible light; so reducing the amount of sunlight reaching plants will reduce photosynthesis, which will in turn reduce the conversion rate of CO2 to O2. So while less energy comes into the system, more CO2 remains in the system, and the latter will tend to offset the former. The net effect on warming might be zero. Worse, we could be upside-down on the transaction, with the net effect actually worsening global warming in the long term. Yes, volcanic eruptions reduce average temperatures; but their effects are fairly short-lived, and don't give us much of a clue about the consequences of reducing the amount of sunlight reaching the Earth's surface over a span of decades or centuries. Also, it strikes me that we might experience significantly-reduced crop yields as an additional result of the reduced photosynthesis - not a good thing when we may also be losing arable land as a result of rising sea levels.
I really hope the folks tinkering with our biosphere are asking the same questions, (and more), and coming up with credible answers. I know they're generally a smart lot of people; but their track record so far WRT climate change models and predictions isn't nearly good enough to justify their apparent excess of hubris. Their attitude of 'yeah, if a few minuscule tests look good, we should roll out a full-scale implementation on the whole planet', is downright fucking scary.
'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
Jesus Fucking Christ, they're already doing that, just look up in the skies. Notice those "new clouds" they're putting in the text books? They've been geoengineering for over a decade now. Acting like it's some new thing is so people don't realize they're already doing it...
The weather/climate system is a complicated, chaotic system. If we do enact this system then what happens to the countries that go through drought/floods/ etc. due to this system? Will they be compensated? And what if that country is a heavy weight like China, or Russia? Do you think they're going to sit back whilst your magical aerosol fucks with their economies? Or would they bomb the shit out of it? The US almost certainly would.
Two years ago I contacted one of the company which provides such service and when I called it chem trail they corrected me prefering the term "weather management". I don't understand why this is news, it has been going on for a while and has proven inefficient already.
Christians aren't killing people or threatening to use nuclear weapons on people who disagree with them.
Exactly, that's why they're not the ones with their dirty fingers on the red buttons. Oh, look, they are!
Ezekiel 23:20
Christians aren't killing people or threatening to use nuclear weapons on people who disagree with them.
So far, the "only" two nuclear weapons used against populated areas were used by Christians.
Muslims are continually plotting terror attacks against western nations as we sadly saw in London
Less than a year ago, a man killed Labour MP Jo Cox. He was a far rightist and shouting "Britain First".
The truth may be out there, but lies are inside your head
about half as dense as your empty skull. Fuck you alt-White morons are soooooo fucking willfully ignorant and stupid to perfection.
Muslims are mostly not the issue. The issue is with the specific sects. Mostly with Wahhabism, which was originated and continues to be actively promoted by the House of Saud. There's a reason most of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. And you know those Islamic State jackasses? Wahhabist.
We should turn Saudi Arabia into glass. But otherwise Islam is just not an issue. I mean, what does anyone have against Indonesia? It's a total non-issue.
Think what it means that your leaders have kept this knowledge from you, even at this height of anti-Muslim sentiment. Trump is grandstanding and I am sure I appreciate him as an entertainer, but wake me up when he says word one about the Saudis or Wahhabism. I mean, word one other than the trip there he took ten days ago to kiss ass.
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
And for the record, the distinguishing characteristic of Wahhabism is that it teaches that jihad is a duty of all Muslims in the same sense that a pilgrimage to Mecca is. Speaking of Mecca, the Wahhabists destroyed the tombs of Mohammed's followers when they took over that place. They're not big on iconography. You remember those al Queda guys right? And when they bombed those giant stone buddhas? Same sort of thing. Well, more or less the exact same thing.
The idea of Islam was nice and Mohammad was apparently a pretty good guy. But if your doctrine calls for holy war as a duty then you are an inherent threat to everyone around you. That the United States has been so enthusiastic about embracing the people who teach our enemies to kill us is completely fucked.
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
F*cking liar. The KKK is still around. Or go see what Christians are doing in parts of Africa. It includes killing people. And christians have a much longer history of torturing or killing people they disagree with than muslims.
Christian terrorists have existed in the US since its' founding - and have killed more people in the US than foreign-born terrorists. And the latest London attack was by someone born in the UK.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
So far, the "only" two nuclear weapons used against populated areas were used by Christians.
Not really. They were used by the USA, which happened to be a predominantly Christian country, but that doesn't mean there were any religious motives involved, or that it was carried out by a group of Christians.
And christians have a much longer history of torturing or killing people they disagree with than muslims.
The religions are two branches of the same tree, so they started at about the same time.
No, they did not "start about the same time." Islam got it's start in the 7th century.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
To my knowledge, Harry Truman was a Christian, and I suspect that most of the people involved with the decision and actual bombing were as well. I do not claim that it was due to some crazed Christian conspiracy (because it wasn't), but when people make blanket statements that "Christians would never do X", I find it fitting to note that some Christians actually did take X to the next extremely nasty level, which no one else has.
The truth may be out there, but lies are inside your head
The dropped the bombs because they were in a war with Japan, not because they disagreed with them, or because they were predominantly Christian. If Harry Truman had not been a Christian, he still would have ordered the bombs to be dropped.
If you're looking at the very first start, yes, Christianity was a few centuries earlier, but it didn't really grow big until the 6th century. You can't really torture and kill people for religious reasons until you have some power in numbers. Same as we're seeing in European cities now. When the muslims were a tiny minority, they were quiet. Now that they start controlling bigger city areas, they want to impose their crazy ideas on the rest of us.
You will find this scenario described in Freakonomics 2 (a blatent pro-Microsoft book). Nathan Myhrvold describes this exact technique for his spinoff - Intellectual Ventures.
He means they are all abrahamic, Judaism, Christianity and islam all from same root
That person is you. You redefine anything as terrorism to get the terrorism statistics you want because your echo chamber permits it. Your howler about Puritans, the guys who came to America to set up a commune (read the Mayflower Compact) is because your echo chamber permits it.
To say that they were started about the same time was factually REALLY incorrect. It betrays the ignorance of the poster of a basic fact. It's like the people who claim that Muslims have been killing people for thousands of years - physically impossible. Or saying that java and javascript are about the same because "java".
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
It's infinitely dense with facts.
If he weren't Christian, he wouldn't have been president. That's just how American Christianity was/is.
They mostly dropped the bombs to stop Russia having any funny ideas about invading Japan from the other side, and ending up with a Tokyo wall too.
This is already a reality and has been for years. Look up folks...