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Dutch Scientist Proposes Circular Runways For Airport Efficiency (curbed.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Fast Company: While airport terminal architecture has a solid history of style and innovation, rarely is a proposal put forth to utterly redesign the runway. But that's precisely the aim of Henk Hesselink, a Dutch scientist working with the Netherlands Aerospace Center. Dubbed the "endless runway," Hesselink's brainchild is a 360-degree landing strip measuring more than two miles in diameter. Since airplanes would be able to approach and take off from any direction around the proposed circle, they wouldn't have to fight against crosswinds. And three planes would be able to take off or land at the same time. Hesselink's team uses flight simulators and computerized calculations to test the unconventional design, and have determined that round airports would be more efficient than existing layouts. With a central terminal, the airport would only use about a third of the land of the typical airport with the same airplane capacity. And there's an added benefit to those living near airports: Flight paths could be more distributed, and thereby making plane noise more tolerable. BBC produced a video detailing Hesselink's circular runway concept. The concept is fascinating but there are many questions the video does not answer. Phil Derner Jr. from NYC Aviation writes via Business Insider about some of those unanswered questions in his article titled "Why the circular runway concept wouldn't work." The fundamental issues discussed in his report include banked runway issues, curved runway issues, navigation issues, and airspace issues. What do you think of Hesselink's concept? Do you think it is preposterous or shows promise?

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  1. Only viable if all planes land themselves by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A computer doesn't give a shit if the runway is straight or curved, because it can handle a little more left (or whatever) while it's managing dozens of other things. But a human can't do that. You want to make pilots have to account for bank and curvature in addition to everything else? That's obviously a shit idea.

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    1. Re:Only viable if all planes land themselves by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Performing a banked approach is a standard procedure taught to all student pilots and is simple maneuver.

      Great, now do it on a curve, which (as has been pointed out elsewhere) will change your relationship to the wind as the process occurs. Maybe not a big deal for a little bitty plane, unless there is much wind. Definitely a big deal for a bigger plane. It's just adding too many factors when most problems already happen on takeoff or landing.

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  2. Safety issues? by JoshuaZ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of the major issues seems to be what happens when a plane comes in too fast. Straight runways handle that well. It is hard to handle that with circular runways. There are a lot of other safety advantages of the standard setup.

  3. Traffic? by Carewolf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I love how he places his drawning in the middle of nowhere with no roads or train tracks, or even neighby restraints on the layout of the land. Sure you can pull all that underground, but he seems to just ignore it.

  4. More =/= better by MrLogic17 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My first thought was: how the heck are you going to keep this runway clear of snow? You've gone from a single (or dual) short strip to a (pi*2mi)= 6.28 mile loop. That's a lot of runway to plow.

    Then there's the long taxi time from the outside to the terminal in the center. That's a 1 mile radius taxi. Lots of wasted time.

    Then there's the poor saps living around the airport. Instead of a well-defined small number of houses with noise pollution, you've spread it all over a huge area. Lots more people to complain. I doubt people want to build houses *inside* that 2 mile loop of land, so the footprint of this beast will be impractical for an airport near anything existing at all.

    And if there's a consistent level of wind (from any direction), that "3 at the some time" argument goes away, and you're back to a small strip of usable runway, at least until the wind dies down.

  5. Conflict? by QuietLagoon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...they wouldn't have to fight against crosswinds. And three planes would be able to take off or land at the same time...

    If three are landing at the same time, I'd say that at least one is fighting cross-winds.

  6. I've got a better idea. by Verdatum · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Instead of a loop, we should make the runway a Möbius strip! That way, planes can taxi along both sides of the tarmac, allowing it to last twice as long!!

  7. Did he check the math? by Solandri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Centripital force is

    F = mv^2/r

    or a = v^2/r

    At a typical takeoff speed of 150 knots, the lateral acceleration needed to keep the plane centered on a round runway with a 1.5km radius is 3.97 m/s^2, or 0.40g. On a freeway you'd just tilt the roadway based on the expected transit speed (about 24 degrees for 0.40g). But with a circular runway, planes are going to be traversing every part of it at all speeds from 0 to 150 knots, so there's no single tilt which will eliminate the problem. Likewise, during the takeoff roll the required lateral force will increase with velocity. So you can't just tilt the wheel/joystick at a certain angle and hold it there while taking off. You have to constantly adjust it as your velocity increases.

    If a plane has to make a no-flaps emergency landing at 200 knots (which also happened to be about the regular takeoff speed of Concorde), now you're talking a lateral force of 7.06 m/s^2, or 0.72g. Which brings us to why runways are straight in the first place. It's not because it's easier to design and build. It's because it's a stable travel path. If for whatever reason during takeoff or landing the plane's controls stop working, the plane will want to go straight. Making the runway straight means the plane naturally (and with a little luck) will stay on the runway. Making the runway round means if you lose that lateral force being applied by your control surfaces for whatever reason, the plane is guaranteed to depart the runway at speed.

  8. Re:Flight Simulators and Computerized Calculation by Fast+Ben · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Aircraft landing gear are designed to land in a straight line, they are not designed to handle side loads.
    It doesn't take much side load for that gear to fold up under the airplane.

    Not to mention instrument approaches... I'd love to see a precision instrument approach chart to a circular runway.

    Most large airports have several parallel runways. LAX for example has 4 parallel runways, normally all in simultaneous use - 2 are used for departures, and 2 for arrivals. This gets a lot of airplanes in and out at the same time.
    If the runway was a circle, you might be able use on side for arrivals and the other for departures at the same time, but that's it.

    Circular runways remains a stupid idea.
    Disclaimer: I'm also a pilot.

  9. The old fashioned way by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Scientists do science (hypothesis, theory, test, publish repeat). Engineers apply science and business.

    That's the old fashioned way.

    The new way is:

    1) Do a study with lots of measurements
    2) Crunch the numbers looking for an interesting trend
    3) Create a plausible explanation for the trend
    4) Publish!