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China's ZTE Removed From US Trade Blacklist (thestreet.com)

From a report: The U.S. Commerce Department will remove Chinese telecom equipment maker ZTE Corp from a trade blacklist after the company admitted to violating sanctions on Iran, the Commerce Department said in a notice made public on Tuesday.

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  1. "Our Bad" - ZTE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "No problem." - US Commerce Department

    That'll show 'em!

  2. OH SHIT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Donald Trump is going to be PISSED!

    1. Re:OH SHIT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Donald Trump has been ass-molested by Putin on the Ritz.

    2. Re:OH SHIT! by TWX · · Score: 0

      It's a shame that they're both gone, with Gene Wilder's arguable bad hair and with Peter Boyle's baldness they could've played Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin in an homage to their own take on Irving Berlin's song from Young Frankenstein. Wouldn't have had to change anything really...

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    3. Re:OH SHIT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, this is exactly how the Drumpf likes his business to go down.

      Step 1: apply legal sanctions to a major company on some pretext.

      Step 2: major company admits wrongdoing and pays "fines". It may or may not also make private payments to some other agency that doesn't have to disclose its tax returns, but we can only speculate about that.

      Step 3: major company welcomed back into the fold.

      See, it's like taxation, but you can choose who to apply it to on a case by case basis. That means Trump personally gets to pick the winners and losers, which is what he loves doing above all else. Remember his TV show?

  3. avoid it by dimko · · Score: 1

    Had a phone from them a few years back. On delivery, GPS did not work, a hardware issue. About 10 months later MIC jack got foo bar. Just not as good quality items, as you would want.

    1. Re:avoid it by TWX · · Score: 1, Troll

      Sounds perfect for Walmart, where you save money on each transaction but have to re-buy it three times to get the longevity that you'd have gotten from something similar purchased elsewhere.

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    2. Re:avoid it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds perfect from CHINA where you save money on each transaction but have to re-buy it three times to get the longevity that you'd have gotten from something similar purchased elsewhere.

    3. Re:avoid it by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      Here in Australia, supermarkets do sell prepaid ZTE phones at a price point where only the most underspecced Samsung or HTC can compete.

      But you're not getting Nougat on this throwaway handset.

    4. Re:avoid it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ZTE had the lowest cost smartphones on the market with AT&T a few years back. I loved their Maven ($60) and Compel ($40). They were my first 2 smartphones and they served their purpose well. They still work fine but have limited storage (8gb and 4gb). I use them for various other non-phone things around the house.

      If you are expecting a top tier phone for $200 in their more upscale line, I think you were just deluding yourself.

  4. Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My government still blacklists them for infrastructure as they can't be trusted not to have backdoors.

  5. Commerce Dept as a global protection racket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is exactly how the Donald sees the US gov't working. We saw the same in his "invoice" to Angela Merkel. "Nice company/country you've got there, be a shame if something happened to it."

    There's no public details of what, exactly, ZTE did to get the blacklisting lifted, but I'm willing to bet quite a lot of money was involved. Anyone like to bet on where all that money ended up?

    Trump is turning the US gov't into a global protection racket. Anyone like to guess how much he's going to demand from The World to reinstate Obama's greenhouse gas controls?

    1. Re:Commerce Dept as a global protection racket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The invoice thing is fake news.

    2. Re:Commerce Dept as a global protection racket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What has this got to do with Trump?
      This is standard modus operandi for the US, and they've wanted to do worse things.
      If anything Trump, promised less war. But this may have been bullshit, or he's powerless. Seems like the US is collaborating with engineering a famine in Yemen. If the US doesn't like you, it will rape and kill your family, blow the funeral up, and fund the terrorists that continually harass and threaten you.

    3. Re:Commerce Dept as a global protection racket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I will not deny Trump is making things worse, but the US government has been a protection racket for a very long time.

    4. Re:Commerce Dept as a global protection racket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >There's no public details of what, exactly, ZTE did to get the blacklisting lifted, but I'm willing to bet quite a lot of money was involved

      Actually, there are details that could be sussed out if someone were willing to put in the effort. And yes, there was quite a bit of money involved. Start here https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000065213&year=2016 and begin connecting the dots.

      Podesta Group - $530,000

      Oh hey, looky there.

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  7. I'm confused... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It sounds to me like ZTE did something bad, and now the USCD is removing them from a blacklist. Is this some sort of wheels-within-wheels reverse-psychology punishment, or is it a reward for fessing up?

    As a side note, that was an impressively thin "article". I was all ready to rail on the summary for being light on details, but I don't feel appreciably more informed after having read the original piece.

    1. Re:I'm confused... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ZTE did not do anything bad. They did something the US did not like and they had to pay protection money because of that.

  8. Normal American Justice System by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    it's like a plea bargain.

    government doesn't have to prove anything and the culprit doesn't need to do anything but the government gets to say that they did and gets to ask some money too.

    or backdoors. it's zte after all.

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  9. american propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    arent they like one of the top 10 manufacturers in the world? its not like they just crawled out of a freaking sewer. Traditional brands can go suck a big one, these things work and are cheap

    so someone had an issue with one, cool, they are selling these things in places that have a mandatory guarantee of 2 years, which indirectly MEANS most of these units actually DO LAST more than that on average otherwise distributors would not be putting these things on circulation if it were causing them too much trouble

    i get that this is not apple, or cisco, or the freaking NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS, but they are even making home routers and stuff like that, and it works perfectly fine and like in any product, sometimes better than more well known brands, ive had stuff from them since forever, my last home router was from them and it bukaked the shit out of the motorola i had before, it had better wifi signal than most other brands, their stuff works like anything else. Yeah, the chinese probably know exactly what kind of porn i like because backdoors bla bla, but so do google. I dont give a flying fuck about what the chinese know about me, they dont own my country, that would be somebody else entirely

    also, stop acting like theres something thats not made in china, almost all phones are made there, they are all made in china
    You can keep disney and star wars, ill take this phones

  10. Security of ZTE routers and access points? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Was ZTE one of the companies leaked that was installing backdoors and malware in their routers? I ask because if they were no one should buy them anyway. If they weren't then maybe they are now.

  11. Trump & Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For all the urban legends that had been going around about Trump being in the back pocket of Russia, the US has been a surprisingly mutinous puppet, if that's what it is. First of all, there was Nikki Haley denouncing Russia in the UN over Crimea, of all things. Then just about every political appointee of Trump - be it Mattis, McMaster, Coates, Pompeo - has been a Putin critic, and last 2 days, even Spicey has been denouncing the Kremlin for the crackdown on anti-Medvedyev demonstrators. Of the people who were thought to be Russia's voices in the cabinet, Flynn is gone, while Tillerson has not touched any Russia related issues in the State Department so far: he's dealt with Mexico, Japan, Korea and China.

    Now the Russian media is reporting that their people have bought Trump properties, but that hardly makes Trump their stooge. As it is, the Trump organization has assets in a variety of countries, but not Russia, and they're not doing any new transactions outside the US. So they can try to sow doubts in the minds of people about Trump's Russia ties, but the whole point of the media talking points was that Trump would be a stooge of Russia, and the latter is upset that he's not doing that according to plan.