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Verizon To Force 'AppFlash' Spyware On Android Phones

saccade.com writes: Verizon is joining with the creators of a tool called "Evie Launcher" to make a new app search/launcher tool called AppFlash, which will be installed on all Verizon phones running Android. The app provides no functionality to users beyond what Google Search does. It does, however, give Verizon a steady stream of metrics on your app usage and searches. A quick glance at the AppFlash privacy policy confirms this is the real purpose behind it: "We collect information about your device and your use of the AppFlash services. This information includes your mobile number, device identifiers, device type and operating system, and information about the AppFlash features and services you use and your interactions with them. We also access information about the list of apps you have on your device. [...] AppFlash information may be shared within the Verizon family of companies, including companies like AOL who may use it to help provide more relevant advertising within the AppFlash experiences and in other places, including non-Verizon sites, services and devices."

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  1. Just install a 3rd party ROM on the phone by jonwil · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just install a 3rd party ROM on the phone so you dont have to put up with this crap. Oh wait, its Verizon, they lock the phone down so you cant install 3rd party ROMs or remove their crapware...

    Why anyone would go with Verizon when they do this crap instead of going with a phone and carrier that doesn't do crap like this is beyond me.

    1. Re:Just install a 3rd party ROM on the phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because most people don't care jackass. They aren't going to hack their phone just to avoid Verizon's crapware. The real question is why Google even allows bastardization of Android by the carriers.

      Apple got that one right. They control the OS completely. The forks of Android to satisfy the handset OEMs and carriers makes Android suspect.

    2. Re: Just install a 3rd party ROM on the phone by Desler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In comparison to Verizon? Yes. By many miles.

    3. Re:Just install a 3rd party ROM on the phone by msauve · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "they lock the phone down so you cant install 3rd party ROMs"

      Just buy a Pixel from Google. They work on VZW. They weren't bootloader lock to start, and AFAIK they still aren't.

      And, with recent changes with regard to ISPs, what makes you think there's one which "doesn't do crap like this", or won't soon? If there's nothing to prevent it, you can't assume it's not happening just because you don't know about it.

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    4. Re:Just install a 3rd party ROM on the phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Just buy a Pixel from Google. They work on VZW. They weren't bootloader lock to start, and AFAIK they still aren't.

      In the interests of clarity -- OP was pretty clear, but let's make it absolutely clear: if you buy a Pixel at a retail store (Verizon, BestBuy, WalMart, etc) -- you get a locked bootloader with no carrier lock. It will work on carriers other than Verizon. But it will have Verizon shitware on it.

      You can only get both the "unlocked bootloader" and "no carrier lock" if you buy a Pixel directly from Google.

    5. Re:Just install a 3rd party ROM on the phone by nightfire-unique · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If Google was smart, they'd put a stop to this immediately. This shit does horrendous damage to the Android "brand" and there's no reason for them to tolerate it.

      Want access to the Play Store, GCM/GMS, etc? Thou shalt not install garbage on customers' devices.

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    6. Re:Just install a 3rd party ROM on the phone by Puls4r · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You don't understand the phone ecosystem. Android is FREE. Google makes very little money on Android. But they do make loads of money because of android - google play, all their apps, all their services.

      Google wants other folks to use Android. So being total dicks and dictating outlandish stuff will end up biting them in the ass.

      Look at what Samsung is the in the middle of doing. It scares the shit out of both Google and Qualcom. Samsung has an all-Samsung operating system now, has a replacement for Qualcom's processor that's made in house, and is quickly developing their own apps to replace most of googles. Very soon, the Number 1 manufacturer of phones is going to be able to step away from both companies. And that is really going to hurt Google and Qualcomm. That's why Google started making their own phone. They see the writing on the wall.

    7. Re:Just install a 3rd party ROM on the phone by mjwx · · Score: 2

      Just buy a Pixel from Google. They work on VZW. They weren't bootloader lock to start, and AFAIK they still aren't.

      In the interests of clarity -- OP was pretty clear, but let's make it absolutely clear: if you buy a Pixel at a retail store (Verizon, BestBuy, WalMart, etc) -- you get a locked bootloader with no carrier lock. It will work on carriers other than Verizon. But it will have Verizon shitware on it.

      You can only get both the "unlocked bootloader" and "no carrier lock" if you buy a Pixel directly from Google.

      Can you unlock the bootloader with a single command like I did with my Nexus 4 and 5x?

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    8. Re:Just install a 3rd party ROM on the phone by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Samsung has an all-Samsung operating system now, has a replacement for Qualcom's processor that's made in house, and is quickly developing their own apps to replace most of googles. Very soon, the Number 1 manufacturer of phones is going to be able to step away from both companies.

      OK, that begs some questions. Is their operating system in fact good enough to compete? Are their apps in fact good enough to compete? Because I don't think they are. And if they aren't, then no, they won't be able to step away from both companies. They're still going to need Google to be successful. There's just not room for another handset manufacturer in the market, at least, not to be successful. While they have their flaws, neither Android nor iOS is unable to run your phone.

      Android is by far the dominant system. If Samsung is going to put a dent in anything, it's going to be iOS, not Android. They might well take users away from Apple's walled garden, and move them into theirs. But even if they stop making Android phones entirely... they'll be back.

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    9. Re: Just install a 3rd party ROM on the phone by PoopJuggler · · Score: 2

      So they just cache it and blast it all out next time you hit a hotspot.

    10. Re: Just install a 3rd party ROM on the phone by PoopJuggler · · Score: 2

      Apple is millions of times less evil than Verizon.

    11. Re: Just install a 3rd party ROM on the phone by Desler · · Score: 2

      But giving Verizon control is way worse.

  2. people don't care. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The app provides no functionality to users beyond what Google Search does. It does, however, give Verizon a steady stream of metrics on your app usage and searches.

    For a couple decades there's been a steady stream of shitware of that general nature. "Toolbars" on desktops. "Bonzai buddie". Browser plug ins that exist only to datamine everything you do. Google itself, which profiles you for its own profit, not only web searches but all your emails and travels around the net. Windows 10, spyware built right in. Half the apps in the phone ecosystem that demand to scrape your contacts list for a calculator or whatever.

    People don't care. They have never cared. If they cared, the internet would be a very, VERY different kind of place.

  3. Re:What updates? by WarJolt · · Score: 3, Funny

    Only Google should know all your intimate details.

  4. are you from the past by lucm · · Score: 2

    I make at most 2-3 phone calls per month on my phone. I could actually not have a phone number and it would work just fine for me. I only use it for internet access, including tethering for other devices.

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  5. Illegal by ShakaUVM · · Score: 2

    This should be illegal.

    Seriously. If the EFF isn't the right group to go after Verizon, please let me know who is and I'll donate $100 to the cause.

    The doctrine of first sale should apply to cell phones as much as it applies to everything else. Our oligopolic mobile overlords have gotten away with being shitty corporations for way, way, too long now.

    The saddest line ever penned by man was Stallman was right again.

  6. Choose the samsung model(I'll explain why) by gl4ss · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, seriously, hear me out.

    1) Choose the samsung model
    2) sign up for samsung MDM developer program.
    3) get your free samsung mdm developer key.
    4) write a small app to disable the package/firewall it.
    5) profit? maybe if the subsidy from verizon was worth it. VERY DOUBTFUL.

    or alternately buy package disabler or some other 1 dollar app that does _Exactly_this_. if you have ever wondered how some of these 1 dollar app disablers manage to do their thing without rooting, this is how. it's free to get the key to do it on limited amount of devices from samsung though, but it's stupid that you can't just approve it locally without signing up as a mdm developer with samsung(totally free, mind you).

    or just use a different operator with byod and decent rates. you might have to move outside of usa to achieve this though.

    Android has the facility for user to give permissions for apps to do device management, BUT there pretty much isn't a single manufacturer that ships phones where it works as you would expect. on samsung for example you need to use their special api to get permission from KNOX and then you ALSO have to have the permission given to the app by putting it as a device admin app).

    *) there are some app packages on the samsung phones that ignore enabled/disabled setting. also none of the package managers on market currently let you disable specific activities/services of an app WHICH THE API LETS YOU TO DO(you can for example break youtubes ads by playing around with this). the samsung mdm api's also give you access to the built in firewall rules and a bunch of other stuff you would normally need to root your phone for.

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  7. They misspelled... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Evil Launcher"

  8. Who's to blame. by geekmux · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dear Verizon,

    Fuck You.

    Oh, wait, how rude of me.

    Fuck You Very Much.

    I don't know who to blame more. Verizon, or their customer base who doesn't give a shit.

    Consumers, continue to enjoy your privacy ass-raping. You should enjoy it, because you support it.

    1. Re:Who's to blame. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They don't have to enjoy it, they're just indifferent toward it. They put their lives, photos, videos, location, associations, etc on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, et al, carry phones that track their location (this is the case even with dumbphones), send unencrypted traffic (including email) over the public internet and have done this for years (in most cases closing in on 2 decades). You have to understand that from their point of view, at this point the privacy fear mongerers are starting to sound a lot like the Year of the Linux Desktop crew.

      Bad things can happen no matter what, people aren't going to live in fear of what might happen to the degree that they don't share anything and instead try and be an anonymous, unidentifiable part of society.

      I agree that the level of privacy violation is out of control nowadays but the net effect on the average person is zero so obviously they don't care.

    2. Re:Who's to blame. by houghi · · Score: 3, Funny

      It is funny that you compare privacy with intercourse, because privacy is a bit like your virginity. You can only lose it once, won't be able to get it back and you are fucked when you give it away.

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  9. Evie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In security textbooks we usually talk about Alice, Bob, sometimes Charlie, as the communicating parties, and usually use Eve as name for an eavesdropping attacker.

    Nice, they at least call this app what it is.

  10. Re:This is why I'll never use Verizon or Sprint by jenningsthecat · · Score: 2

    Unfortunately, that means the only major carriers in the US I can now ever use are AT&T and T-Mobile. But then again, its nice to be able to use any device I want on a carrier that doesn't have the technical means (due to an uncommon network technology) to be a jackass about devices.

    And how long do you think this situation will last? Every major corp in the world is looking to rape your privacy - AT&T and T-Mobile probably aren't far behind in locking down everything, in spite of "uncommon network technology". I predict that within two years unlocked bootloaders will be a thing of the past, simply because providers will check on bootloader status and deny access to any phone that hasn't drunk their Kool-Aid.

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  11. CarrierIQ says otherwise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    They do care. As soon as they found out about CarrierIQ (the very same functionality from the very same Telcos), there was an outrage and carriers were forced to removed it.

    Anti malware is the biggest selling Windows app, people pay to remove the malware, and people moved away from Internet Explorer and its millions of toolbars.

    Bonzai buddie died in 2004 more than a decade ago.

  12. Disable the app by Tomahawk · · Score: 3, Informative

    Most system apps can be disabled in Settings.

    Go to Setting / Apps / AppFlash
    Press the Disable button. It will appear where the Uninstall button normally appears, but for apps that cannot be uninstalled.

  13. On android by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 2

    Is an app called "noroot firewall"
    You can block off specific programs from accessing the network. Pretty handy for ad blocking in appls and other things.

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