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'Grammar Vigilante' Secretly Corrects Bristol Street Signs (irishtimes.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: A self-confessed "grammar vigilante" has been secretly correcting bad punctuation on street signs and shop fronts in Bristol for more than a decade. The anonymous crusader carries out his work in the dead of night using the "Apostrophiser" -- a long-handled tool he created to reach the highest signs. The man, who wishes to remain anonymous, told the BBC that correcting rogue apostrophes is his speciality.

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  1. Bansky? by byolinux · · Score: 2

    He's supposed to be from Bristol, after all.

    1. Re:Bansky? by arth1 · · Score: 5, Funny

      We need a grammar vigilante to come here and correct the misspelling in your subject.

    2. Re:Bansky? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Technically you would want a spelling vigilante for that, rather than a grammar vigilante.

    3. Re:Bansky? by garryknight · · Score: 3, Funny

      You mean Bank'sy, surely.

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    4. Re: Bansky? by davester666 · · Score: 2

      so, there will be a queue? first pedantry, then grammar, then spelling, then punctuation...

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    5. Re:Bansky? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Informative

      "The man, who wishes to remain anonymous, told the BBC that correcting rogue apostrophes is his speciality."

      There's an old British expression, the Greengrocer's Apostrophe, for apostrophes wrongly used to indicate plurals. The term comes from seeing signs like BEET'S 5 PENCE at farmers' markets.

    6. Re:Bansky? by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      Pedant comes from words meaning to lead to knowledge, (that means a Greek slave who leads children to school, aka crossing guard) and I think it is quite common for vigilantes to be driven by a desire to "teach" or coerce a community into changing some practice or behavior. So perhaps most vigilantes are already doing it pedantically.

    7. Re: Bansky? by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 2

      Will we need a pedantry vigilante soon?

      This is just a start. Wait until the rise of the P.L.A.!
      Yes, the Punctuation Liberation Army will change everything!!!
      "Nothing eclipses Ellipses..."

      Oh, forgot, (ahem) Bawahaha!!!

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  2. Vigilante? by freeze128 · · Score: 2

    Golly, here on the internet, they're called "Grammar Nazis". Maybe people who correct bad grammar aren't so bad after all...

    1. Re:Vigilante? by lgw · · Score: 2

      People really need to check their twitch response when it comes to these signs. Consider the following:

      Your "Lowest Cost" Groceries

      Are those quotes inappropriate? Ask the grocer and he might say "no, I said that, it's a quote from me."

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    2. Re:Vigilante? by Hardhead_7 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Golly, here on the internet, they're called "Grammar Nazis". Maybe people who correct bad grammar aren't so bad after all...

      Fun fact: in Germany, they don't call them Grammar Nazis (obviously). Their word basically translates as "comma fuckers," which is way cooler.

    3. Re:Vigilante? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      They read as sarcasm quotes to me. If it says "Lowest Cost" I'd assume it was not really very cheap at all.

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    4. Re:Vigilante? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Golly, here on the internet, they're called "Grammar Nazis". Maybe people who correct bad grammar aren't so bad after all...

      Fun fact: in Germany, they don't call them Grammar Nazis (obviously). Their word basically translates as "comma fuckers," which is way cooler.

      That's exactly how "Pilkunnussija" in finnish translates too. And even though vulgar expression it's recognized by national language office dictionary. On that page it shows how word is bent and alias "Pilkunviilaaja" which translates "a comma fiddler" in english.

    5. Re:Vigilante? by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      on the internet, they're called "Grammar Nazis". Maybe people who correct bad grammar aren't so bad after all...

      There used to be a site called Portland Pattern Repository at c2.com that was a wiki and discussion board for software-engineering-related topics. There was nothing really like it for general software engineering topics and debates. It wasn't a help-desk like StackOverflow, but up at the philosophical level. (It's messy, but arguably this accurately mirrors the different viewpoints and lack of formal research in SE.)

      It was the very first wiki, invented by Ward Cunningham, who coined the term "wiki" for a kind of web collaboration software resembling Apple Hypercard. ("Wiki" is based on a Hawaiian word for "quick".)

      Anyhow, a grammar-and-spelling-correcting "grammar vandal" (GV) ended up killing the wiki, which is set to read-only mode for now.

      To save it, volunteers had built scripts to try to back out GV's changes, but GV was highly persistent and kept a step ahead of the clean-up scripts, flooding it with garbage at times. GV was one determined SOB.

      Part of the problem was that some of the corrections were questionable/debatable in nature and potentially changed the interpretation different from what an author had intended (some content was signed). GV argued this was a small price to pay for improving overall grammar and spelling, which most disagreed with. Negotiations for a compromise broke down; GV wanted full editing control.

      The wiki is still alive in read-only mode, but Ward Cunningham decided to experiment with a "federated wiki" concept whereby different participants can keep a version of how they wanted the content to look and more control over who can change one's own copy. Interesting idea in theory, but so far it's failed to catch on the way the original did. It makes things too fractured for users and readers. And, you pretty much have to manage your own federated-wiki-server to participate.

      GV believed "my way or no way" and sank the entire ship. Jerk!

  3. Re:If he wants to do more grammar vigilantism by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2

    Well, look at it this way: sure he'd have stickers all over his screen, but even if he scrolled or reloaded the main page, he'd still end up with better edited posts than without the stickers.

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  4. Re:Why is this even on Slashdot? by smooth+wombat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Considering the amount of misspelled words and improper usage (their/there/they're or break/brake), it might be a not-so-subtle hint to get your act together.

    If you don't think proper grammar is important, then you probably don't believe proper coding is important either.

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  5. Re:idiots like this on stackflow by Calydor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The level of care given to writing a question sets the bar for the level of care given to answering the question.

    If you can't be arsed to reach your pinky finger to the side to hit your Shift key, why should other people be arsed to stop what they're doing to help you?

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  6. Grammar this by earthloop · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have a friend who has the nickname 'Chip'. I keep suggesting to him that he should open a fish and chip shop and call it.....

    Chip's

  7. Re:idiots like this on stackflow by lgw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You want help specifically from pedantic nerds, but you can't be bothered to speak their language? Further, you're upset about the very personality traits that make them able to help you?

    Just go back to Facebook and Twitter. You fit in there. You don't fit in here.
     

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  8. Re:Why is this even on Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Grammar, it's the difference between knowing your shit, and knowing you're shit.

  9. Similar sign-fixer in Los Angeles by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A few years ago a local artist improved a confusing L.A. freeway sign, making an interstate number shield in the process:

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the...

    https://www.good.is/articles/t...

    http://gizmodo.com/how-one-fed...

    One down, 9,999 to go...

    1. Re:Similar sign-fixer in Los Angeles by MTalisman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I have often wanted to change the traffic sign at the exit of the George Washington Bridge in NYC onto the Harlem River Drive from
      Use Both Lanes
      to
      Use Either Lane

  10. Re:idiots like this on stackflow by HornWumpus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    arsed too reply with speling and grammer correction?

    Does anybody think those replies are 'to help'? Pitiful, self congratulatory, mental fapping. The middle schooler, desperate to show how smart (s)he is. Big words, half understood, that's the grammarian.

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  11. Re: As long as it's just apostrophes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not less but fewer. ...ten or fewer items...

    Items are countable.

  12. Re:If he wants to do more grammar vigilantism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Unicoder! We totally need a unicoder!

    I suppose that's preferable to the Ebcdicker.

  13. Re:Wrong Criminal by fnj · · Score: 5, Funny

    People who's job

    Bwahahaha!

  14. Re:idiots like this on stackflow by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because I have arthritis in my hands I typo stuff sometimes. I could carefully proof read my internet posts, but it's fucking Slashdot. Incorrect case isn't going to stop people understanding the message.

    And if you are that bothered by it... Okay, I'll go without your reply, my life is too short to care about trivial mistakes.

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  15. Re:As long as it's just apostrophes... by moeinvt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh, cripes. Are you suggesting that less & fewer are *sometimes* interchangeable? Wonderful. Just what we need is another ambiguity in this language.

    I've heard the argument that what you have in your shopping basket ("groceries") is a fluid quantity because you don't talk about having a 'grocery'. That sort of makes sense. I think it's like quantum mechanics though. As soon as you take the groceries out of the basket and put them on the conveyor, they cease being fluid and become discrete "items".

    I would refuse to shop in a place that has "10 items or less" on a sign. :-)

    There's everything "wrong with it" when you've spent decades using "fewer" for that which is discrete and "less" only for that which is fluid or continuous.
    "10 items or less" just sounds wrong.

  16. Re:Wrong Criminal by MrLogic17 · · Score: 2

    (Hangs head in shame)

  17. Re: Why is this even on Slashdot? by buchanmilne · · Score: 2

    "A count is also a measure."

    Only if accompanied by a unit

  18. Re:A special term for integers and real numbers by cellocgw · · Score: 2

    2.3 is less than 2.6, but

    2 is fewer than 3

    No, 2 are fewer than 3 . //yes dammit I'm being funny and serious, and yes I'm well aware of the difference between numbers and collective nouns, and the difference between British English and American English when it comes to collective nouns.

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  19. Re:In my day.. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Back in my day, we called them grammar Nazis. It might not be allowed these days though."

    The term we use today is alt-grammarians.

  20. Re: Why is this even on Slashdot? by denzacar · · Score: 5, Funny

    "A count is also a measure."

    Only if accompanied by a unit

    Occasionally, a count is a vampire.
    And number is how you feel after he sucks the blood out of your body.

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