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The Mac Pro Is Getting a Major Do-Over (mashable.com)

Apple is moving away from the current, cylinder-shaped design used on its Mac Pro desktop, but that replacement will take until next year to hit shelves. From a report: "The Mac Pro, the current vintage that we introduced, we wanted to do something bold and different. In retrospect, it didn't well suit some of the people we wanted to reach," admitted Apple SVP Craig Federighi. "So many of our customers were moving to iMac that we saw a path to address to many, many more of those people," he added. "With the current generation Mac Pro, which some customers love, others may not, one of the things that's certainly clear and true about that is the team tried to do something different, something bold and we always want to encourage the Mac team that whatever products you make, that make customers happy, that we do bold work. Because the Mac's always been about that. It's been about not being conventional thinking, not me-too-stuff," said Phil Schiller. [...] While we'll have to wait until 2018 for the Mac Pro rebirth ("Want to do something great... that will take longer than this year to do," said Schiller), iMac fans can expect a significant update this year, including some new configurations designed specifically for Pro users who already fans of the all-in-one design. [...] Schiller was somewhat less emphatic when I asked if he was willing to make any "courageous" decisions about Mac Pro ports. I thought I saw a little discomfort flicker across Schiller's face as he reacted to that word and he told me that Apple wasn't making promises about ports on the Mac Pro. Port decisions, he said, are made at a product level. "Just because on one product we removed something, doesn't mean we're going to remove it elsewhere," he told me. More on this here.

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  1. Frosty by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

    The new one is a cylinder with rounded corners.

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  2. iPhone - courage, Mac Pro - Bold by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...we wanted to do something bold

    ...tried to do something different, something bold

    ...that we do bold work.

    So iPhones are all about courage, while Mac Pro is all about being Bold. I'm sensing a theme here. Perhaps their iMacs should have valor, iPad tenacity, and earpods should have balls.

  3. About fucking time they came to their senses by Megane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hooray! Maybe next year there will be a Mac that I can consider worth buying again! Also, they should be using the current most recent generation Intel chips by then. But nah, they'll probably just fucking solder everything down again. Because to the post-Jobs Apple, "Pro" apparently means a fancy-pants artist who wants curvy thin stuff with no seams that can impress people, not an engineer or architect, or even someone in the music or film production business, who wants to get shit done.

    Meanwhile, I will stick to my accumulated pile of MacBook Pros and Mac Minis from the 2010-2012 era. And also the corresponding stack of Magsafe 1 chargers and Thunderbolt adapters. I even bought a USB 3.0 ExpressCard adapter yesterday.

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  4. Brave and bold is fine... by Dracolytch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... but how about starting with the adjectives "functional, useful, reasonable"?

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  5. Cheese grater and/or XServe hybrid, please by enjar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As part of my day job we have to support a lot of Macs in server rooms and/or lab spaces. The current product lineup falls flat and makes us do a lot of stupid workarounds and hassle that we don't have to deal with with Linux/Windows/ESX/OpenStack, all of which run happily on standard rackmount hardware.

    "Pro" options I'd like to see:
    - IPMI/out of band management tools. No Apple proprietary crap. Give me an tool that plays nice with the rest of my machines that speak IPMI.
    - Expansion bays for drives, easily accessible from the front.
    - Support for modern nVidia GPUs / CUDA. OpenCL doesn't cut the mustard. I should be able to use GeForce, Quadro or Tesla GPUs. Support for two at a minimum, four would be better. Use standard power connections, too.
    - Dual 10 GB drops, options for more.
    - Dual power supplies, also hot swappable.
    - Rack mountable form factor. Look at what Lenovo is doing with their P500/700/900 lines. Host will be happy as a desktop or in a rack. Sure, it's 4U but at least if you need to rack it, you can. I get that Macs in a server room is weird.

  6. Yeah, too late Apple. by huskerdoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I became a Mac convert (from Windows XP) in the mid 2000s, especially since I use several Linux machines throughout the day also. I did a lot of video editing on my MacBook Pro but by 2013 it was a bit sluggish so I thought I would pay the large chunk of money and get a nice machine to edit video on. Lo and behold what did they have?...a stupid cylinder that I couldn't put my five hard drives of video files into.

    Yes it looked cool and sleek, unless you actually wanted to use the thing. The last thing I wanted on my desk was a rat's nest of external enclosures for hard drives, cables, and power supplies. I had enough of that in dealing with my laptop setup. Bump a cable, oops, there goes the whole chain.

    The most obnoxious part was people actually defending this "radical new design" and that people like me who didn't like it were "afraid of change". Or even, "Who needs so many hard drives, just use the cloud, that is the future!" (yeah, try and edit HD video files that are being served off the cloud, heh).

    So for about $1500 I bought a PC with Windows 7 and haven't looked back. Bye bye Apple.

  7. My suggestion... by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My personal view is (and has been for a few years now) that Apple needs to rejigger their entire lineup. I'm not saying that they need to make drastically different products, but their current marketing is out of whack, which is weird for Apple. My general suggestion would be to make three levels across most of their product line, and name them similarly.

    For example, make 3 different phones:

    • * iPhone mini: Basically the iPhone SE line. Small. Lacking some features.
    • * iPhone: the current normal iPhone.
    • * iPhone Pro: the iPhone Plus, decked out with features

    Make 3 different Mac models:

    • * Mac mini: the current Mac mini
    • * Mac: Take the current Mac pro, swap out all the workstation-grade hardware (Xeon, Fire Pro, ECC RAM) for consumer grade (Core i5/i7, Nvidia gaming card, non-ECC RAM). Drop the price $1200. Or something like that
    • * Mac Pro: Make a new upgradable/expandable machine.

    Then 3 laptop models:

    • * MacBook mini: the current Macbook
    • * MacBook: the current Macbook Pro 13"
    • * MacBook Pro: a 15" MacBook, perhaps a little thicker to include more battery and some legacy ports, more akin to the old tower Mac pro.

    and 3 iPads:

    • * iPad mini: The current iPad mini
    • * iPad: The current iPad Pro 9.7"
    • * iPad Pro: The current 12.9" iPad, perhaps with some additional ports and features to bring it closer to feature-parity with the Macbook Mini.

    and finally, if I had to figure out 3 iMac models to keep the trend (which I'm not sure makes sense):

    • * iMac mini: The sleekest 21" iMac they can make using Intel GPUs and notebook-grade processors. Cheaper, fairly weak performance, but good enough for normal office work.
    • * iMac: A 24" iMac using Core i5/i7 processors and discrete Nvidia GPUs
    • * iMac Pro: a 27" iMac with Core i7 (optional Xeon) processor and workstation-grade GPU.

    And to be clear, it's not that I'm specifically fixated on particular features going into particular models, but I think apple would be smart to do something like this. Having a breakdown like this would provide more consistency among their product lines and a clearer differentiation between the tiers within each product line. I also think it would also fill in some of the gaps in their lineup, while still providing reasons to spring for the more expensive pro models.