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Bannon Loses National Security Council Role in Trump Shakeup (bloomberg.com)

Top presidential strategist Steve Bannon has been booted from the National Security Council amid a reshuffling of the key panel, Bloomberg reports Wednesday morning. President Donald Trump reorganized the council, removing Bannon and downgrading the role of his homeland security adviser, Tom Bossert, the report added, citing multiple sources. From the report: Bannon, the former executive chairman of Breitbart News, was elevated to the National Security Council's principals committee at the beginning of Trump's presidency. The move drew criticism from some members of Congress and Washington's foreign policy establishment. A White House official said that Bannon was placed on the committee in part to monitor Trump's first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, and never attended a meeting. He's no longer needed with McMaster in charge of the council, the official said. Trump fired Flynn on Feb. 13 for not disclosing to the president or to Vice President Mike Pence the extent of his conversations with Russia's ambassador to the U.S., Sergey Kislyak, before Trump's inauguration.

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  1. Re:This is relevant, how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why is this on Slashdot?

    Because national security policy drives information security policy. (See, for example, the thread about DHS scaling up invasive border procedures, most of the victims of whom will be innocent Americans.)

  2. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Stuff that matters, read a few more bytes into the tagline.

  3. Kushner by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Bannon lasted longer than I thought he would. For a time it almost seemed like he might be able to outmaneuver the Kushners, but having Ivanka installed in the White House and having Jared running around as an official messenger and errand boy demonstrates that in the end, the only people Trump will ever really trust is his family.

    And that's fine by me. Whatever I think of Trump, I actually think the Kushners are half-way reasonable people, and it's a lot better having them whispering in his ear than that vile racist troll Bannon.

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    1. Re:Kushner by vux984 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think your right, its ultimately a positive thing to see Bannon removed.

      However, the fact that Trump only trusts his family is a huge problem. It might "work" in a private family company; but it is fundamentally at odds with how government should be.

      IMO There should be laws in place to prevent such nepotism -- because the bond of family is a counter force to transparency and integrity with respect to their obligation to represent the public interest etc.

      Hell, many corporations for example have policies prohibiting too much nepotism -- preventing direct reports from being family members, etc. Because it's well documented that loyalty and favortism within the family bond frequently is at odds with their obligations corporate interests.

      Trump running the whitehouse like a family business... will ultimately only serves trum; not the public interest.

    2. Re:Kushner by Baron_Yam · · Score: 3, Insightful

      American voters have wanted a King and a ruling dynasty for the longest time.

      There's a worship of political families, and just having the right name increases your odds dramatically of getting votes for election to the same position held by someone of a previous generation of your family. It's not just increased access to connections and vertical knowledge transmission, people want the bloodline. And that's external... within the system, those bloodlines have similar supportive effects.

      I'm pretty sure it's basic primate psychology at work. We just really, really want to be ruled by a divinely selected bloodine no matter how stupid that idea has repeatedly been shown to be.

    3. Re:Kushner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Simpsons nail it again:

      Sideshow Bob: "Because you need me, Springfield. Your guilty conscience may move you to vote Democratic, but deep down you long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king. That's why I did this, to save you from yourselves. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a city to run."

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  4. Re:Well that's all interesting and good... by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The whole "Susan Rice story" is largely a concoction, an attempt at distraction from the fact that there is growing evidence of significant ties between Trump and Putin. It's almost like a Nixon supporter saying "Clearly Deep Throat broke the law, so Nixon should get off!"

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  5. Re: Hitlery will not be running for office by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hillary Clinton was barely tolerated by half of the Democrat voters. That's why Hillary lost. Trump was a barely tolerated candidate among Republicans, but not quite weak enough to be defeated by Hillary Clinton. For example, take a look at her first-amendment positions and you'll see someone who is way to the right of center. When you have a choice between a Republican running as a Democrat and a Libertarian running as a Republican, is it any surprise that the latter wins?

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  6. Re: This is relevant, how? by OrangeTide · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, it's a big conspiracy to take away your rights and complete the liberal agenda of switching this county into a communist utopia where bookist academic types rule over small businessmen and blue collar workers.

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  7. Re:Remember kids... by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We're seeing the end result of the Kushner's formal installation in the White House. There were some indications early on that Bannon might actually have outfoxed the Kushners, and indeed there were even suggestions Trump wasn't all that happy with his son-in-law. But now that Ivanka is formally in the White House, there simply isn't any room for Bannon. Bannon was useful because his Alt-right credentials gave Trump access to a fairly useful demographic, but people like that are very dangerous to keep by your side too long.

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  8. Re:Well that's all interesting and good... by Mashiki · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well you can feel whatever way you want about it, but considering you have multiple agencies stating that there was no evidence or said evidence was circumstantial at best. I'm sure that's working out great for you. I'm guessing you'll be right there in supporting republicans and their demands that she come for an under-oath interview right? That should clean it all up very quickly. It's not like they'd have to subpena her or anything, like several investigative committees did to the current head of the DEA because of bureaucratic stonewalling.

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  9. Re:Well that's all interesting and good... by ElizabethGreene · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I just searched CNN.com for "susan rice" and there is -zero- mention of the accusations against her in the first page of the search results. If I click over to the "Stories" tab, the first result is her denying any spying allegations involving the Brits. I'd love to have a non-conservative opinion on this, and their silence speaks volumes.

    Fake news is news that is not true, not news you don't like.

  10. Re:Well that's all interesting and good... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, this is like saying "Deep Throat gave us clues about Nixon, and thus he should be impeached". Rice clearly broke the lie, lied about it, and has implicated most of the previous Administration in breaking privacy laws. But I guess that doesn't matter to you because Trump.

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  11. Re:Well that's all interesting and good... by quantaman · · Score: 3, Informative

    But how come no story on Susan Rice having unmasked multiple people in the Trump camp.

    Because /. doesn't cover every non-story put out by the Trump camp.

    It should be noted that she stated "she didn't do it, and had no knowledge of it." And of course that was proven untrue.

    Citation? My hunch is the usage of this quote doesn't match the context.

    And now we're seeing the claims making the rounds of "It wasn't political" but why wasn't the FBI involved then?

    Because the US has multiple intelligence agencies.

    Why did she do something that was outside of the preview of her job(advise the President and consume intelligence summaries)? Why does this appear to have been a case of her setting a new precedent(the unmasking).

    That's not only within the realm of her job, it's a great example of actually doing your job.

    People affiliated with an incoming administration are having clandestine meetings with agents for foreign powers who helped decide the election? Some unmasking is warranted.

    Why were they unmasked by her, when all 3 letter agencies could do this on their own if they're conducting an investigation.

    For the same reason the NSA decided to approve her request, because the unmasking was warranted.

    And of course, why are so many of the media silent on this. When they were all over other major events similar to this and licking their chops like a dog seeing a steak. Well you can all have fun now.

    Because they recognize it's just another attempt by Trump and his defenders to distract from his completely made-up claims that he was wire-tapped. And to distract from the many, many, unsettling ties from his camp to Russia.

    Seriously, you think this was political shenanigans? Then why didn't it come out during the election? Tons of these links were being investigated during the election but it was only the media who actually uncovered anything. The closest thing we saw to a leak from the government was Democratic Legislators complaining that there were incriminating things not being released. Meanwhile, we heard non-stop about the investigation into Clinton and her emails, including leaks. One of the reasons Comey apparently announced the temporary re-opening of the investigation just before the election is that he didn't think he could stop his office from leaking!

    If the investigations into Trump were politically motivated you would have heard about them in October.

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  12. Re: This is relevant, how? by OrangeTide · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Civil War already established how that works.

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  13. Re: Huh? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Funny

    How so? Maybe you could take the time to explain it.

    Trump will be getting the same advice from the same people, but one of those people will now have a slightly different title. How is that not important?

  14. Re: Huh? by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Generally having a role removed from your list of duties is seen as a demotion, and the timing of this, after Ivanka's official installation in the White House, is highly suggestive that the rumored power struggle between Bannon and the Kushners has resolved itself in the Kushners' favor. Also note that there have been rumors that Bannon and Priebus weren't getting along all that well either. I don't expect Bannon to work for that much longer at the White House.

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  15. Re: This is relevant, how? by OrangeTide · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Joke's on you. I'm a registered Republican. (used to be Libertarian but switched when Ron Paul was in the primaries)

    As for SJWs, treating people fairly is not really garbage, and has nothing to do with maxism. Most people who are upset by SJWs are upset because they've been called out on their bullshit. That most SJWs are women and are mostly targeting men has a lot to do with the vitriol that is spewed about SJWs. A lot of guys are just too old fashioned to want to here criticism from a woman. I don't care what gender someone is, as long as the criticism is valid and constructive. Usual response to SJWs is: I don't like what you're saying, so I'll mock you to take that power away from you. But that funny thing is you can't win that way (well at least *I* find it funny)

    Democrats like Obama and both Clintons are very right leaning. They are no Howard Dean, Ralph Nader or Bernie Sanders. Not that a 1 dimensional scale for measuring political views is a good metric, it lacks nuance. For example, I'm a Republican and believe in small decentralized government and in supporting small business owners, but I'm against the death penalty. Does that make me a liberal? Probably not.

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  16. Re: This is relevant, how? by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 5, Funny

    The US has carried a constant debt since the US Civil War. Debt is literally what makes the world go round.

    If by "literally" you mean "figuratively,"

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  17. Re: Hitlery will not be running for office by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Uh, are you calling Trump a Libertarian?

    LOL.

    He's apparently a corporatocrat, which makes him just as much of a libertarian as most of the people who call themselves libertarian. Don't like it? Separate yourself from that label to escape the association with all the crypto-corporatocrats hiding among you. Sometimes a label is too tainted and has to be discarded.

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  18. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Huffington Post said he was a NAZI and that's good enough for me. I don't want NAZIs in the US government and neither should you. And no, I won't bother to research where this information came from, because NAZI.

    Have a nice day.

  19. Re:Remember kids... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't think President Trump has golfed that much, yet...

    I found a different article (see below) that described the situation more precisely. Obama golfed every nine days in eight years. Trump golfed every five days for the first two months. Trump's golfing is twice the rate of Obama's golfing.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/for-trump-playing-golf-is-just-another-day-at-the-office-2017-03-31

  20. Re:Well that's all interesting and good... by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Informative

    Zero? Under "Everything", it's the first 3 links. Under "Stories", it's the first 4 links.

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  21. Re: This is relevant, how? by OrangeTide · · Score: 4, Informative

    So you're one of those fake 'progressive libertarians.' This is what happened to the term 'liberal.' You're just more of the same really. If you were truly for small government you would not buy into the idea of class warfare that today's social justice requires as a basis. Regardless of what you claim to be, such ideas most definitely have a basis in marxism (eg: "we have nothing to lose but our chains").

    I found today's "No True Scotsman" comment.

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  22. Re:The Cooker by denzacar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Got any water left in that mud of yours?

    President Trump's wild charge that Susan Rice committed a crime, explained

    What we're seeing now, in short, is not a legitimate debate about the threat posed to civil liberties by improper unmasking.
    We are seeing a toxic combination of Trump's penchant for wild speculation, a right-wing media echo chamber, and the legacy of the Benghazi controversy coming together to produce an absurd pile-on - one that seems to have brought the Republican Party together around their remaining hatred for Rice and the Obama administration.

    What the article fails to mention though, is that all this water-muddying is taking place at the same time as Trump's "foreign policy adviser" Carter Page admitted, publicly, that he was "unmasked" by the FBI - as being recruited by the Russian spies.
    Russian Spies Tried to Recruit Carter Page Before He Advised Trump

    Two years before joining the Trump campaign as a foreign policy adviser, New York business consultant Carter Page was targeted for recruitment as an intelligence source by Russian spies promising favors for business opportunities in Russia, according to a sealed FBI complaint.

    Page confirmed to ABC News that he is the individual identified as "Male-1" in a 2015 court document submitted in a case involving the Russian spies.

    Unmasking people recruited by foreign spies is BAD, mkay? Just trust in Trump and look the other way.

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  23. Re:Well that's all interesting and good... by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There's a lot of noise about the likes of Flynn being outed, but strangely little outrage about what they were doing, at least from Republicans.

    There isn't much talk about "what they were doing" because there wasn't much going on at all and that takes all the fun out of the story for the Democrats. There's a reason that even Obama's DNI said that despite having access to everything, he say no evidence of anything out of bounds. There's no there there. All the hype is just the ongoing Democrat theater designed to find some way, any way, to distract from their horrible choice of candidate and idiotic conduct during the election. And the fact that under Obama they lost nearly a thousand legislative seats, most of the governoships, both houses of congress, and now the White House and the Supreme Court. The whole ZOMG RUSSIANS! meme is getting downright hilarious. Meanwhile we have every indication that people in actual power at the time of the election and leading up to it were using intelligence resources for political research.

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  24. Re: Huh? by skam240 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well when you host your own website you can decide what can and cant be posted.

    In the mean time, I'll keep reading slashdot and continue to be not surprised about news articles related to major players in major online political movements and how they are fairing in their current role in real world politics.

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