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Canonical Killing Unity For Ubuntu Linux, Will Switch To the Superior GNOME (betanews.com)

Reader BrianFagioli writes: Today, the company admits that it is throwing in the towel on Unity, as well as its vision for convergence with devices like phones and tablets. Starting with Ubuntu 18.04, the wonderful GNOME will once again become the default desktop environment! "We are wrapping up an excellent quarter and an excellent year for the company, with performance in many teams and products that we can be proud of. As we head into the new fiscal year, it's appropriate to reassess each of our initiatives. I'm writing to let you know that we will end our investment in Unity8, the phone and convergence shell. We will shift our default Ubuntu desktop back to GNOME for Ubuntu 18.04 LTS," says Mark Shuttleworth, Founder of Ubuntu and Canonical.

14 of 386 comments (clear)

  1. Is this a late April Fool's joke? by damicatz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Outside of Redhat's bubble, GNOME hasn't been relevant in years. The developers of GNOME went full Apple in trying to control how users use their computer.

  2. Re:Sigh.... by Thelasko · · Score: 4, Informative

    Going from crappy to crappier.....

    The recent versions of GNOME have some settings that can be tweaked to get a more traditional layout with a proper application menu. As God intended.

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  3. Wonderful GNOME? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Informative

    You mean the GNOME that was so "wonderful" that it resulted in the rise of multiple forks and a mass exodus of developers? The GNOME 3 series has had to undo every major UI design change they have made because people hated it so much.

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  4. Re:KDE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I would agree with that. KDE has some problems, but it still is the best power user desktop going. It's highly customizable compared to most of them and still has a lot of advanced features tucked away in "advanced" menu options.

    It even works well for more basic uses - sort of like the Win7 interface without the MS crap infesting it. It has a good "start menu" type thing which people used to desktops of yore take to quickly.

    KDE5 is still not as good as KDE4 was, but it's better than most of the other options out there. Including newer versions of Windows past 7.

  5. Re:A little late? by myrdos2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    "The Market" seemed to be adopting Cinnamon and MATE.

    DistroWatch backs you up. Take a look at where the various Ubuntus rank in their most popular list:

    Mint #1, Ubuntu #3, Ubuntu MATE #15, Lubuntu #20, Xubuntu #31, Kubuntu #41, Ubuntu GNOME #54.

    Mint, which has the default Cinnamon desktop, is #1. If you want Gnome 3 you're down to #54. Given that list, why on earth would they pick Gnome?

  6. Re:Wonderful? by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 4, Informative

    The summary takes on a more realistic meaning if you read it in a sarcastic tone.

  7. Re:So could you tell us what it is? by AdamWill · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, he's probably talking about 'Classic Mode', which is an alternative interface provided by gnome-shell that looks more like a Win98 / GNOME 2-style desktop. It exists more or less entirely because some Red Hat desktop customers (yes, we have some!) wanted to update to RHEL 7 but wanted a more 'classic' desktop UI.

    https://access.redhat.com/docu...

  8. Re:Wonderful? by kimvette · · Score: 4, Informative

    Meanwhile, kubuntu will continue to exist, delivering a superior KDE-driven user experience! :D

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  9. Re: Wonderful? by GoingDown · · Score: 1, Informative

    Have you tried googling?

    There is quite a comprehensive documentation available from Redhat: https://access.redhat.com/docu...

    Also, Archlinux has always good wiki articles, and systemd one is here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/ind...

    One good introduction is on Linux.com: https://www.linux.com/learn/un...

     

  10. Re:A little late? by DuckDodgers · · Score: 4, Informative

    GNOME 3.8, released in spring 2013, has the "Classic Shell" option which restores the GNOME 2 interface anyway. I use Ubuntu a lot, that's the route I'll go.

  11. Re:Wonderful? by kbahey · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was on KDE for around 15 years. Never used GNOME.

    But when I recently upgraded from Kubuntu 14.04 to Kubuntu 16.04, there were many annoyances here and there. For example, no weather widget. Also, the notification history was gone. Dumbing down the user interface is rampant and have reached KDE.

    So, I bit the bullet and switched to XFCE (Xubuntu 16.04), and it is fast, nimble and just works.

    It was as simple as:

    sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
    sudo apt-get purge plasma-desktop

    Then learning the ropes of XFCE, and adjusting the settings.

  12. Re:Fuck systemd and this hipster Linux by buchanmilne · · Score: 4, Informative

    Systemd is terrible and what they've been doing to Linux is also terrible.

    You're assigning guilt for too many things to systemd.

    No more simple ifconfig to set an ip address.

    On RHEL7 and similar, net-tools is no longer installed by default, you should use the 'ip' command from iproute2, see http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.i... . ifconfig and 'route' for Linux have been on the deprecation path for years, before systemd existed.

    I think since RHEL6 the Red Hat documentation and training material stopped referring to ifconfig.

    You need to create a file in /etc/network/eth-whatever and add some options.

    This has been the way to create persistent network configuration for years (since Red Hat 5.3).

    (And it's /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-${INTF})

    No more "route" either, so how do you set a route?

    ip route add

    'ip route' is significantly better than 'route', e.g. 'ip route get ip.add.re.ss' will change your life.

    Oh and the best part is things like nslookup and traceroute are not included by default!

    So, install them (e.g. 'yum install bind-utils traceroute') . You can resolve names (the way most normal processes would, e.g. looking in /etc/hosts or other sources of host information as configured in /etc/nsswitch.conf) using 'getent hosts', that should be sufficient on most general-purpose servers (if you don't need to look up SRV or MX or TXT records etc.).

    Neither is "man" which I had to install manually.

    What distro are you talking about? This *really* has nothing to do with systemd ...

    Sure give me 10,000 obscure and buggy libraries but not include core utilities like nslookup? Oh and I almost forgot. On a completely idle system, systemd is using the most cpu time out of everything else. So nice of my startup manager is the top resource hog.

    On an idle system that has been up for 10 minutes, systemd has consumed less than 1 second of CPU time. A *real* resource hog</sarcasm>

  13. Re: The only thing about Ubuntu by Eunuchswear · · Score: 3, Informative

    He probably had, like me, a Nokia N900.

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  14. Re:A little late? by olau · · Score: 3, Informative

    Debian, which is number 2 on that list, has had GNOME as default for a very long time.

    But yeah, DistroWatch is probably not representative.

    For instance, GNOME is specifically intended to cater to non-tinkerers. People visiting DistroWatch are probably mostly tinkerers.