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Taser Offers Free Body Cameras To All US Police (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Taser, the company whose electronic stun guns have become a household name, is now offering a groundbreaking deal to all American law enforcement: free body cameras and a year's worth of access to the company's cloud storage service, Evidence.com. In addition, on Wednesday, the company also announced that it would be changing its name to "Axon" to reflect the company's flagship body camera product. Right now, Axon is the single largest vendor of body cameras in America. It vastly outsells smaller competitors, including VieVu and Digital Ally -- the company has profited $90 million from 2012 through 2016. If the move is successful, Axon could quickly crowd out its rivals entirely. In recent years, federal dollars went to police agencies both big (Los Angeles) and small (Village of Spring Valley, New York), encouraging the purchase of body-worn cameras. However, while cameras are rapidly spreading across America, they are still not ubiquitous yet. Axon wants to change that. "Only 20 percent [of cops] have a camera," Rick Smith, the company's CEO, told Ars. "Eighty percent are going out with a gun and no camera. We only need 20- to 30-percent conversion to make it profitable," he added. "We expect 80 percent to become customers." "Our belief is that a body camera is to a cop what a smartphone is to a civilian," Smith said. "Cops spend about two-thirds of their time doing paperwork. We believe, within 10 years, we can automate police reporting. We can effectively triple the world's police force." The offer is only available to American law enforcement, but Smith said the company would consider foreign agencies on a case-by-case basis.

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  1. year's worth of access - not a deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    A year's worth of access means the local municipalities are on the hook to figure out how to fund all the remaining years. It's rope-a-dope charity.

    1. Re:year's worth of access - not a deal by Imrik · · Score: 2

      Not to mention the cost of processing everything for the inevitable FOIA requests.

  2. the first hit is always free by Thud457 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and then pay yearly subscription fees for storage & analysis to the end of time.

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    1. Re:the first hit is always free by networkBoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's fine with me.
      The more cops wearing body cameras that stream to the cloud for storage (ending the missing SD card issue) the better!

      There are tons of reports where adding body cameras has decreased both actual and claimed police abuses.

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    2. Re:the first hit is always free by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      The best one was where nobody but the cops knew they had cameras. 60%+ reduction in citizen complaints and violent incidents.

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    3. Re:the first hit is always free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      The more cops wearing body cameras that stream to the cloud for storage (ending the missing SD card issue) the better!

      Is that what these cameras do?

      Trick question. No, it isn't, unless this is a new generation of them.

      After our police chief got recruited by Taser and mysteriously secured a no-bid contract, Albuquerque started using Taser's product. It used SD cards, and as our police records custodian noticed, the videos didn't always manage to later get uploaded. Some darker things were alleged as well though it's not clear if they really happened.

      DoJ is looking into it. Or they were, before the president came out against police oversight. #ThanksTrump

      Anyway, the only reason I bring this up, is that at least with the machines APD has, the videos definitely are not streamed directly to the servers without the cops having veto (or editing) powers. Whether they use those powers, is a matter of how much you trust them.

    4. Re:the first hit is always free by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Don't come running complaining about the government wasting money later if you're willing to jump the gun "for the children".

      Decent body cams have been available for years and there is overwhelming evidence that they reduce violence, reduce misconduct, and pay for themselves many times over in reduced lawsuits. So adopting them now is certainly not "jumping the gun".

      More cameras. Fewer donuts.

    5. Re:the first hit is always free by PoopJuggler · · Score: 2

      You don't see a problem with a single company controlling the entirety of the evidence collected by police cameras? In the cloud no less. Or the vendor lock-in for that matter?

    6. Re:the first hit is always free by TapeCutter · · Score: 2

      The problem that I see is that taser have a vested interest as to how taser equipment and cameras are perceived by the courts and the general public. Sure, give the contract for cameras to taser but give the evidence handling and image processing to a competent competitors. One company doing the whole thing from filming to court presentation is just corruption waiting to happen.

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  3. Hahaha! by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Cops spend about two-thirds of their time doing paperwork. We believe, within 10 years, we can automate police reporting. We can effectively triple the world's police force."

    Yeah, like the middle managers in any enterprise are going to let manually-done paperwork go away...

    Although in this case, I have my doubts that police reporting can really be automated away in our lifetimes. I can see automation eventually handling the "who, what, when, where" part, and probably the "how" - but the "why" is going to be a harder nut to crack, and that's the most important part.

    It's like when I was a kid, way back in the stone ages. This was before personal computers; but business use of computers (at least for larger businesses) was beginning to gain traction. Companies like Weyerhaeuser and Georgia Pacific were publicly stating how they thought their paper businesses were going to collapse in 20 years... HA!

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  4. And after the first year? by Pollux · · Score: 2

    How much after the first year, Axon? It's a good strategy...offer the cameras for free, then making departments dependent on Evidence.com for cloud storage. (Because what business would give away cameras for free that could work with alternative cloud services, or local department servers?)

    That makes as much sense as departments agreeing with GM to get free Impala cruisers up front, but also agreeing to buy all gasoline from Chevy at $10 / gallon.

  5. Real Value in Reoccuring Cloud Services Costs by Koreantoast · · Score: 2

    Sure, give away the cameras for free. The real value is in locking them into the Axon data storage infrastructure. Once police departments get used to storing data in Axon's cloud, it's going to be too much trouble to try and change the system.

    1. Re:Real Value in Reoccuring Cloud Services Costs by PoopJuggler · · Score: 2

      Exactly. The only way this should even get anywhere near approval would be if the cameras were based on some open standards so that any competitor could connect to them if the deal gets queered. Locking 80+% of the nation's police camera evidence into a proprietary technology owned and operated by a single private corporation is a horrifying prospect.

  6. uhm, what? by superwiz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They want all police to store their body cameras data on their services and it's free for a year? I am not sure they could pay enough for all the police to store all their footage on their servers forever. This kind of footage should be stored in police evidence lockers under lock and key. They want become the universal street surveyor without paying for it and they want the people working for them for free to pay them (at some point) to work for them for free? Wow. Just wow. The value of that data is more than the value of all the satellite imagery combined. Oh and spare us the soliloquy about compartmentalization. If they have access to the data, it will be datamined.

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    1. Re:uhm, what? by trawg · · Score: 2

      If they record me, I'd like the option to get a copy of the recording, so that I can back it up. In the event of any action against me I'd like to not have to rely on some cloud service, the technical competence of the police, etc.

  7. I'm amazed it's 20% already by blindseer · · Score: 2

    It doesn't seem that long ago when police having a camera on their person was something out of science fiction. We've see police with cameras for a long time now but they've been limited to cameras on cars, buildings, or on a person only in cases of an undercover police going after high value targets. I'm amazed at the speed in which they are being adopted.

    I can see why police are wanting them, it keeps everyone honest. Before such audio and video recording devices were common we'd have to rely on witness testimony, which has been proven to be terrible at keeping things straight. Cameras have shown many accusations of police abuse to be false, as well as caught abuses that may have gone unseen before.

    What is disturbing is how there is evidence that cameras have tended to encourage police shootings. Before cameras there was always doubt in a police officer's mind of having a use of force shown justifiable after the fact. Now with cameras much of this doubt is removed. I'm a bit torn on this. On the one hand we see people that assault police get shot, when they likely deserve it. On the other hand we see police get "lazy" and shoot at the first sign they might be in danger, when a less lethal means might have been effective.

    As with all things this comes with its ups and downs.

    Another thing, there's this quote, "Eighty percent are going out with a gun and no camera. " I saw a video yesterday of three female officers getting beat up by a single enraged man. He was picking up rocks and tossing them at the officers and their car, with enough force to crack the windshield. The officers would try to tackle the guy but he'd throw them off and swing his fists at them. Why didn't they shoot the guy? Because in the country they were in the officers are not armed with guns. They get batons, pepper spray, and handcuffs. Did he deserve to get shot? Probably not. I do think though that if he knew the officers had the ability to use lethal force that he'd sober up real quick and either submit to arrest or be free to go on his way.

    To anyone that thinks that swinging a fist is insufficient reason to shoot someone then I have a problem with that. A 200 pound man throwing a punch at a 150 pound woman is lethal force in my mind.

    They got this one maniac on camera beating up three female police officers, but none of the officers were effectively armed. Cameras are nice, guns are better, having both is great.

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    1. Re:I'm amazed it's 20% already by swillden · · Score: 2

      I do think though that if he knew the officers had the ability to use lethal force that he'd sober up real quick and either submit to arrest or be free to go on his way.

      I agree with the rest of your post, but this assumes he has some degree of rationality. That's often not the case. What the officers needed in this case was a good taser. Pepper spray is good against most humans, but people who are sufficiently angry or have their mood sufficiently chemically altered can ignore it for a while. Given three on one, they really should have had a relatively easy time subduing him with batons as well, regardless of size/strength difference. But tasers would have put him down. Good tasers cause a significant part of the musculature to lock up, and basically no amount drugs or emotion can overcome that. The downside is that tasers are significantly more lethal than pepper spray or a properly-handled baton (an improperly handled baton is more lethal than either).

      Guns have their place, too, of course. Tasers are short-ranged, inaccurate, single-shot weapons. Handguns are longer-ranged, more accurate and carry lots of cartridges... though they're not as effective at instantly stopping people as tasers. Police really should have all of the above, *and* solid training in their use.

      To anyone that thinks that swinging a fist is insufficient reason to shoot someone then I have a problem with that. A 200 pound man throwing a punch at a 150 pound woman is lethal force in my mind.

      A 200 pound man throwing a punch at a 200 pound man can be lethal as well. The human body is tough, but also has some crucial vulnerabilities. A lucky punch can be the end.

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  8. Not Charity--Business by SeattleLawGuy · · Score: 2

    It's not charity, just business. Understand what you buy when you buy it and what's behind the scenes.

    For example, there is a line in the summary that says, "In addition, on Wednesday, the company also announced that it would be changing its name to "Axon" to reflect the company's flagship body camera product[,]" In reality, they're a business and are concerned about their brand, and (1) tasers have high brand risk because of viral videos and (2) the term "taser" has arguably become a generic term for stun gun, so it may be that they will lose a trademark fight in court over their major brand if anyone challenges them.

    There's nothing wrong with them doing that--it makes good business sense--but it would be a bit naive to take the company's statement at face value without understanding its implications.

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