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US Dismantles Forensic Science Commission (washingtonpost.com)

hondo77 writes a report via Washington Post: Thought the Trump Administration's war on science was just about climate change? Think again. "Attorney General Jeff Sessions will end a Justice Department partnership with independent scientists to raise forensic science standards and has suspended an expanded review of FBI testimony across several techniques that have come under question, saying a new strategy will be set by an in-house team of law enforcement advisers," reports Washington Post. The National Commission on Forensic Science, "jointly led by Justice and the Commerce Department's National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) has prompted several changes," including "new accrediting and ethical codes for forensic labs and practitioners" and the FBI abandoning "its four-decade-long practice of tracing bullets to a specific manufacturer's batch through chemical analyses after its method were scientifically debunked." "The availability of prompt and accurate forensic science analysis to our law enforcement officers and prosecutors is critical to integrity in law enforcement, reducing violent crime, and increasing public safety," Sessions said in the statement. "We applaud the professionalism of the National Commission on Forensic Science and look forward to building on the contributions it has made in this crucial field."

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  1. Re:Trump Advisor Carter Page - Russian Agent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    What is there to believe?

    It's public knowledge that Trump advisor Carter Page is a Russian secret agent.

    So treasonous...

  2. statement from NDAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Statement from National District Attorney Association

    http://www.ndaa.org/pdf/NDAA%20Statement%20on%20Expiration%20of%20National%20Commission%20on%20Forensic%20Science.pdf

    The Commission lacked adequate representation from the state and local practitioner community,
    was dominated by the defense community, and failed to produce work products of significance for
    the forensic science community. Very few of the recommendations from the Commission were
    adopted and signed by the previous Attorney General during its existence. Those that were signed,
    such as universal accreditation, had already begun to develop organically within the forensic science
    community as accepted best practices, thus replicating ongoing work and wasting taxpayer dollars.

  3. fake news by ooloorie · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sessions isn't "dismantling" anything. The commission was created in 2013 and was supposed to do its job by 2017. It apparently has done that, Sessions has thanked them. The Trump administration is now deciding what to do next.

    Calling this "ordering the Justice Dept. to end forensic science commission" or "dismantling forensic science commission", as if Trump or Sessions had taken extraordinary steps to kill the commission, is tendentious, politically motivated b.s. that reflects badly on the Washington Post and the submitter.

  4. bias? by lucm · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the article:
    The commission jointly led by Justice and the Commerce Department's National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) has prompted several changes.

    You:
    mostly idle

    Your bias is showing.

    Those 30 people have made a total of 20 recommendations since 2013. Here's the latest one:

    The Attorney General should direct the Bureau of Justice Statistics to create a proposal for the development of a nationally representative survey to determine forensic capabilities for those who write reports and offer testimony within federal, state and local law-enforcement agencies and for medical examiner and coroner offices. The survey instrument should be developed in collaboration with the relevant stakeholders organizations by the next commission meeting.

    1/2 page.

    You want more? Here's the 2nd latest recommendation, made ONE YEAR before.

    Proficiency testing is required of all accredited FSSPs. As a recognized quality control tool, it is the view of the Commission that proficiency testing should also be implemented by nonaccredited FSSPs in disciplines where proficiency tests are available from external organizations.

    That's it. The entire corpus of that immensely valuable recommendation spans 7 pages; of those 7 pages, 4 are an appendix describing terms like "Accreditation".

    That commission is a big joke. See, there's a webcast of their meetings.

    https://www.nist.gov/topics/fo...

    Huge waste of time.

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    lucm, indeed.
  5. Re:Basic liberals propaganda by Ly4 · · Score: 5, Informative

    but rather a long list of things the cops shouldn't be allowed to use in court.

    Like
        - bad arson science (see the Willingham case)
        - unsupported bite-mark evidence (see the Krone case)
        - stating that fingerprints are absolutely unique (see the Mayfield case).

    What's wrong with requiring techniques used to court to be supported by evidence that they work?

  6. Re:Trump Advisor Carter Page - Russian Agent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Don't leave the Democrats out of this grouping, they're just as much party/anti-Trump before country.

    I'll just leave this right here.

    https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/851794827419275264