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Scientists Invent Ultrasonic Dryer That Uses Sound To Dry Your Clothes (yahoo.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Yahoo: Scientists at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee have developed a dryer that could make doing laundry much quicker. Called the ultrasonic dryer, it's expected to be up to five times more energy efficient than most conventional dryers and able dry a large load of clothes in about half the time. Instead of using heat the way most dryers do, the ultrasonic dryer relies on high-frequency vibrations. Devices called green transducers convert electricity into vibrations, shaking the water from clothes. The scientists say that this method will allow a medium load of laundry to dry in 20 minutes, which is significantly less time than the average 50 minutes it takes in many heat-based machines. The drying technology also leaves less lint behind than normal dryers do, since the majority of lint is created when the hot air stream blows tiny fibers off of clothing. Drying clothes without heat also reduces the chance that their colors will fade. While the ultrasonic dryer has been in development for the past couple of years, the U.S. Department of Energy explains in a published video that it has recently been "developed into a full-scale press dryer and clothes dryer drum -- setting the stage for it to one day go to market through partners like General Electric Appliances."

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  1. Fido by QA · · Score: 5, Funny

    Depending on the frequency, this should drive your family dog totally insane.

    1. Re:Fido by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Insane, but very,very dry.

    2. Re:Fido by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 5, Funny

      As long as it reduces the dog drying time. 20 minutes in the dryer leaves him disoriented and almost always up to no good...pissing on the floor, eating shoes, etc.

  2. Re:Don't buy this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder how my lungs are doing now that I've worn hang-dried clothes with all those evil fibers for decades...

  3. American problem is American by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't get this. I actually just put a load in the washer, and in three hours it'll be done (says the thing). Then I'll hang it all out to dry.

    Now I understand that stateside having clothes hang outside is a sure sign of poverty. While I'm certainly not rich, there is no such stigma here. And anyway, clothing hangs pretty well on an indoors rack too. It just takes a night or so, which is fine by me. I even turn down the spin cycle speed to go easy on the clothes, something dryers very much don't do.

    So while this ultranoisy thing is probably wonderful progress and everything, I don't really understand the problem in the first place. Maybe I'm just not first world enough.

    1. Re:American problem is American by ledow · · Score: 5, Funny

      Spoken like a true American.

    2. Re:American problem is American by MightyYar · · Score: 2

      First problem: 3 hours??? Just for the wash? My "Speed Queen" old-fashioned top-load washes the clothes in around 30-40 minutes if I put it on the longest cycle. If you live somewhere that water needs to be conserved, then I guess I can understand... but holy crap that is a long time.

      Second problem: hanging laundry. It takes a lot of space and you need a relatively low-humidity place to do the drying where people aren't going to steal your stuff. In fair weather, outside is an option if you don't live in an apartment. In crummy weather, you need space indoors. The basement is out because it is too humid and your clothes will smell like basement, so you need to hang your clothes all over the living space. Great.

      Alternative: I can buy a small gas appliance that drys the clothes in under an hour. It costs less than a crappy smart phone. I'm so weird for buying this!

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    3. Re:American problem is American by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      That explains a lot why the average power consumption in the US is 11MWh compared to a meager 4-6MWh in the EU. The longer washing cycles use much less energy.

      Why would you care about how long it would take? You don't have to watch it to completion!

    4. Re:American problem is American by Nocturna81 · · Score: 2

      Over here in Europe 3 hours is a bit long but most washing programs take at least an hour and most hover around the one to two hours. If I run the "allergie+" (removes allergens, handy for babies and hay fever season!) program in eco-mode I believe I can push it past three hours. Having said that, my shortest program is just 20 minutes long. I do believe it doesn't spin up to 1600 RPM then but just 800 or so, so it won't get out almost dry as with the 1600RPM cycle.

      Good explanation why this is: https://www.quora.com/Why-does...

      One good thing about the internal heater is that it can push my water temperature to 194F. If that doesn't clean thing nothing will!

    5. Re:American problem is American by hab136 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Why shouldn't a washer take 3 hours, if it uses less electricity and less water to do so? I'd rather have my washer take more time and cost less. It's got a timer anyways, so those 3 hours can be whenever I want, including right before I wake up, or right before I arrive home from work.

      Unless you're doing more than 7 loads a week, the amount of time the washer takes doesn't really matter. Take out the previous day's load, load up the next day's load, set the timer, and you're done for the day.

    6. Re:American problem is American by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Informative

      Then I'll hang it all out to dry.

      Now I understand that stateside having clothes hang outside is a sure sign of poverty. While I'm certainly not rich, there is no such stigma here.

      In the county where I am in the US there are by-laws that prohibit hanging washing outside*, and from what I understand this is not uncommon.

        In addition there are by-laws that prohibit using furniture and items that were intended for inside use, from being used outside your house. I assume this was to stop people putting old couches on their front porch. But a few years ago a local was prosecuted for using an old bath tub as a planter in their backyard. The kicker was that you couldn't see the bath tub from the street.

      Home of the free. Yeah, right.

      * And at this time of the year you wouldn't want to hang your clothe outside. There is so much pollen flying around that your clothes would be unrecognizable.

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    7. Re:American problem is American by EvilSurfinCow · · Score: 2

      Before I moved to Europe I would never dream of *cough* hanging my clothes to dry. After being here several years you just get used to it. The stuff is dry normally by morning so not that inconvenient (unless you want to wash/wear something the same day).

    8. Re:American problem is American by jimbolauski · · Score: 2

      Why would you care about how long it would take? You don't have to watch it to completion!.

      You may not realize this but your clothes probably have an odor from sitting in the washing machine.

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    9. Re:American problem is American by Parker+Lewis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This comment is so self-centered. You're assuming everyone is a single person, home user, with enough space to hang clothes outside, good weather every day and no need of clothes in few hours. Can you realize that in some areas, like big cities, people lives in so tiny buildings with no space for hanging (and some buildings have rules banning this)? That several countries, weather is not friendly for this at all? That when you have a family with several members (mainly if you have more than one baby), time is really important for clothes drying? And, if you're a laundry, time and efficiency are fuc*ing important!

    10. Re:American problem is American by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Funny

      If they don't realize the odor, it's not strong enough to worry about.

      When it comes to tech nerds, that's almost always entirely untrue.

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    11. Re:American problem is American by TechHSV · · Score: 2

      Why would you care about how long it would take? You don't have to watch it to completion!

      Because I need to do more than one load. If you want to do a load of laundry every day, it wouldn't matter, but my family always does a few loads in a row once a week.

    12. Re:American problem is American by Gryle · · Score: 5, Informative

      Driers are useful when the conditions outside aren't amenable to drying clothing. For example, if the outside temperature is below freezing, which is common in many places for at least one month out of the year, clothing turns into icicles. Or if it's raining outside. Or if it's early spring and the local farmers are spreading manure in their fields in preparation for the spring harvest, and you don't want your clothing to smell like manure after a few hours outside. (For the record, I have no objection to living near farmers who use manure. I just keep my windows closed at certain times of the day and don't hang my laundry out to dry.)

      As for interior, my current apartment doesn't have room for me to put a drying rack anywhere that I won't trip over it.

      There are valid reasons for someone to own a drier and not hang their clothing outside.

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    13. Re:American problem is American by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      In the county where I am in the US there are by-laws that prohibit hanging washing outside*, and from what I understand this is not uncommon.

      Is this a county law or a covenant of your homeowners association? I'd be very surprised to hear that an entire country has banned outdoor clothes-drying. I know there are states that have outlawed restrictions against outdoor drying.

      I'm keen to know which government body would do such a stupid thing.

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    14. Re:American problem is American by RobinH · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you make $50,000 a year at a 2000 hour per year job, you make $25 per hour, and let's say after tax that's... maybe $18 an hour. That's somewhat typical. I'll be generous and say it only takes you an extra 10 minutes to hang a load and go get it off the line later. That's a sixth of an hour, which should be worth $3 to you in after-tax income. I happen to have an energy monitor installed at my panel, and I can tell you that it takes less than 25 cents of electricity to dry a load. Obviously this varies by where you live, but it's certainly going to be less than $1. Much less than that if you use a gas dryer. We do at least 4 loads a week, typically 5 as we're a family of 5, so that's a savings of around $10 per week, so over $500 per year in time savings. My electric dryer is over 15 years old and it's a very basic two-cycle with moisture sensor type, so probably cost less than $500 new. I think it's a no-brainer to use a clothes dryer.

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    15. Re:American problem is American by Solandri · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've done it all three ways - hanging outdoors, hanging indoors, and a dryer. The dryer by far produces the best results. Most clothes come out not needing ironing. And in Winter, the energy used by the dryer to produce heat also heats your home so its energy use is not entirely wasteful. (In Summer you just close the laundry room door so the extra heat doesn't add to your air conditioning bill).

      Hanging outdoors is second best, but results in crinkled clothes which need ironing (eliminating a good chunk of the energy savings of not using a dryer since you dry everything at once, but iron one at a time). If you've got a family of 4, it takes a lot of space. That forces you to wash/dry in multiple small loads instead of a few big ones, which wastes more energy and requires more labor. And of course weather and particulate matter (pollen, smog) can dirty your "clean" clothes before you've even worn them.

      Hanging indoors is worst. All the problems of hanging outdoors, but less space so more loads, more crinkling since you typically don't use clothespins to stretch the clothes out, longer drying time, and picks up household odors. It also increases the humidity of the air indoors, which cools the air so increases your heating bill in the Winter. In Summer, if you're in a low-humidity environment (desert) this cooling can be helpful; but in high-humidity climates it just increases your air conditioning bill because humid air feels hotter (sweating is less effective) forcing you to run the air conditioner more.

      But overall, I'd say the biggest factor is reduction of labor. Instead of taking 15-30 minutes clipping everything to the line or rack, you just shove all the clothes into the dryer in 1 minute, turn it on, and go do something else. (Unloading time is about the same for both since you have to fold the clothes.)

    16. Re:American problem is American by plague911 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      European's also have a much lower GDP per person. Anecdotally because they spend much more time doing the work an American does in a fraction of the time.

    17. Re:American problem is American by Verdatum · · Score: 2

      You either need direct sunlight or a breeze to get ice to sublimate at sub-freezing temperatures; unless your grandma is drying her clothes in a vacuum chamber (which would work pretty well). Some apartments wouldn't give you the ability to dry clothes when freezing cold without lots of time. That said, I agree that people in the US have some (pardon the pun) hangups about line-drying. Those commercials in the 1950s were really good at convincing us that a washer/dryer was part of the American Dream, and that's stuck with us through the generations. Truth is we use dryers because it's convenient and because energy has often been really really cheap in the US compared to much of Europe.

    18. Re:American problem is American by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Informative

      Europeans manage to dry their clothes just fine with all the conditions you've listed.

      So how exactly do they manage to dry clothes when 1) it's raining outside, and rains every day in fact (as in the Pacific Northwest), 2) it's snowing outside, or 3) it's below freezing outside (which is common in the winter in many parts of the US), or 4) it's 100% humidity outside (which is normal in the southeast US during the summer)?

    19. Re:American problem is American by MightyYar · · Score: 2

      I think our front-loaders are substantially different from yours. They only caught on here because the EPA enacted very aggressive water usage limits. A $250 front-loader is unheard of. Even most top loaders are really the same machine just turned on it's side. My top-loader is from a company that skirts the rules by shipping a 30-year-old design (of very high quality, meant for laundromats), but sets the factory water level to the EPA maximum. If you don't adjust the water level up, it can hardly even be called a washer, but once you do you have a commercial grade washing machine of the classic variety.

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  4. Back in the 1970's (when dinosaurs ruled)... by magusxxx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They had a commercial with several celebrities showing energy efficient appliances. "Which will be available soon." Jo Anne Worley proudly displayed a washer that worked with sound waves. Hence, not needing a dryer or detergent. Which was funny considering how many different detergents she did ads for. Whatever happened to that 'modern' marvel?

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  5. Re:Don't buy this by GrumpySteen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    here are no tangible benefits to using a crazy ultrasound dryer.

    "up to five times more energy efficient than most conventional dryers"

    It's the second sentence in the summary for god's sake. You didn't even have to click the link or read the article to get to it.

  6. Cool by s_p_oneil · · Score: 3, Funny

    Cool... cause it's not hot... Yes, I know. I can't resist, no matter how terrible the joke.

  7. Clothes line in the sun by Alain+Williams · · Score: 2

    even more efficient. OK: it doesn't work all year round where I live, so in cool months I hang my clothes on a drying rack in a spare room.

  8. Re:Why the ignorance? by geekmux · · Score: 2

    It was stated it consumes less energy, does not produce unnecessary heat.. I get you are fine with your current machine, but why shouldn't we improve what we have?

    We should look to improve on what we have.

    The problem is often how we go about introducing it. This will likely be a considerable disruptive move within the industry that has made traditional heat-based machines for decades now. A monopoly driven into the industry secured by patents may not prove to be a benefit for all those employed in the industry. For consumers, neither will a $5000 price tag.

  9. Re:I have been wearing the same clothes for a week by GrumpySteen · · Score: 2

    If you've been wearing the same crusty underwear for a week, you aren't a regular consumer.

  10. Re:Don't buy this by religionofpeas · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is definitely and objectively better to blow the loose fibers out of the clothes with a traditional dryer and dispose of them

    How many of those fibers were already loose, compared to the ones that get broken off by all the friction in the dryer ?

  11. The good and the opulent by spaceman375 · · Score: 2

    This will cut down on house fires, which is certainly good.

    It's also progress towards something I've wanted for decades: An automatic closet. When I get undressed I want to just toss my clothes at the closet and have it launder, dry, and fold or hang them as appropriate, hopefully doing it quietly enough to not bother my sleep.

    I actually don't mind the cleaning and drying part - just a robot to put them away would be awesome.

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  12. The fate of the fibers by PuddleBoy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So I wash my clothes, then run ultrasonics against/thru them to dry them. And I do this every week (or whatever).

    What is the affect on the structural integrity of the fabric? Wouldn't prolonged exposure to intense vibration cause some fibers to break and knits to stretch? Would the ends of fibers tend to fray more quickly?

    I don't think I'll be the first on my block to buy one.

    1. Re:The fate of the fibers by budgenator · · Score: 2

      Mostly the ultrasound causes nodes of pressure and vacuum to form in the air; the vacuum reduces the boiling point of water in the fabric and boil off the water, which is then vented outside. Ultrasonic cleaners work by causing steam filled cavitions pockets in the working fluid, they literally steam clean things at room temperature.

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    2. Re:The fate of the fibers by Verdatum · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No. That's the fascinating thing about ultrasonics. It's got a strong effect on fluids, but a minimal impact on intertwined solids. Line-drying is still likely to be better on delicate fabrics, but ultrasonics are going to be way gentler than hot-air tumble-drying. I'm not saying that this is a marketable solution, and yeah, bleeding-edge early adopters deserve every problem they get, but the frequencies and amplitudes used aren't any good at pulling apart fibers (and that's part of why ultrasonic clothes washing isn't feasible).

  13. Alternate technology, available today by necro81 · · Score: 4, Informative
    I applaud developing new technologies for energy efficiency. Still, it's going to be a while before this is available.

    In the meantime one could consider a heat-pump clothes dryer. Rather than using electricity or natural gas to heat indoor air, pass it over the clothes, then dump it to the outside in a once-through cycle, a heat-pump dryer uses (as you can guess) a heat pump. The hot side of the heat pump creates warm air that passes over the clothes gathering moisture. The cold side condenses the moisture back out, before passing this de-humidifed air back to the hot side.

    Advantages:
    • * Uses 1/2 the electricity of an ordinary dryer
    • * It has no vent to the outdoors, so the whole home envelope can be that much tighter. (It does have a water drain for the condensate.)
    • * The mechanism relies on warm, de-humidified air, rather than heavily heated air, so it is more gentle on clothes
    • * They've been available as consumer products for a number of years now - it's not brand new technology

    Yes, they are more expensive. That is to be expected, considering how dirt-simple the mechanisms of a traditional dryer are. However, depending on your local electricity rates and how much laundry you do, the breakeven should be well within the lifetime of the appliance. Maybe that's not enough to junk a perfectly good existing dryer, but should definitely be considered when purchasing a replacement.

    1. Re:Alternate technology, available today by OneAhead · · Score: 2

      It does have a water drain for the condensate.

      Mine captures the condensate in a storage compartment that needs to be taken out and emptied into the sink, so it doesn't need to be connected to anything. It does add one short step to the process of doing laundry, but I found the condensate quite suitable for refilling the steam iron, so that saves on shopping for distilled water. There's a lot of surplus too, so I'm sure it can be used for other (non-food) water evaporating applications as well.

      All in all, the thing is worth every penny I spent on it. As you said, it really is gentler on the clothes, and I'm saving energy to boot. Only downside is that it's quite slow. By the time it wears out, I might be able to buy an ultrasonic one :)

      Heh, your not-so-typical /. conversation.

  14. Re:Don't buy this by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is very much like the asbestos hysteria. OMG my child is at a school which has an asbestos wall, they'll all die in 40 years!!!!! No. The fibres are inside a sealed bonded sheet. Don't disturb it, don't attempt to remove it, keep it well maintained (reads: painted) and you'll be fine.

  15. Re:Don't buy this by OneAhead · · Score: 2

    AC science in all its glory! This is why we can only have nice things when China starts manufacturing them and selling them to us.

    Please, don't buy Chinese-manufactured ACs. Murkin ACs are 50% more A* and every bit as as C, and buying them promotes job growth in the domestic astroturf industry.

    * "A" value of Murkin ACs may decrease over time.

  16. Re:Don't buy this by OneAhead · · Score: 2

    This crap is right up there with Teflon and other supposedly good inventions, that only serve to make you pay more, and let U.S. businesses own more custom by the way of patents.

    To me, this sentence was a dead giveaway that parent was a parody (that went over a lot of people's heads).

    Of course, there's the remote possibility that parent doesn't realize that Teflon is a rare example of a "wonder material" that is virtually irreplaceable for a host of applications including medical devices, scientific research, data transmission, chemical industry, aerospace, mechanical applications,... You never know with Poe's law.

  17. Anyone thought of health tests? by evolutionary · · Score: 2

    Has anyone done a study of long term effects of prolonged exposure to ultrasonic waves? We humans have a habit of producing something to sell without consideration of long term consequences to the environment...or ourselves.

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    1. Re:Anyone thought of health tests? by Gilgaron · · Score: 2

      Those toothbrushes have been around a while...

  18. To boldly clean how no one has cleaned before by ahziem · · Score: 2

    After drying cloths, the next steps are washing clothes and showering people like the sonic showers on Star Trek.

  19. Re:Don't buy this by hipp5 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So instead 'green pans' and 'copper pans' are all the rage.

    To be fair, those green pans where they use a ceramic lining instead of Teflon are actually really amazing. They are wayyyy harder to scratch and just as non-stick. I will never buy a teflon pan again, and I'm not someone who cares at all about the whole fear-mongering.

  20. Re: Don't buy this by nasch · · Score: 2

    Presumably it means it can dry five times the laundry use the same amount of energy.

  21. Re:Don't buy this by Blaskowicz · · Score: 2

    But why would you want thermal energy specifically? We're looking for "drying energy". Sometimes, waiting for water to fall out of a shirt and the rest of the moist to evaporate while at room temperature works.

    We could also throw our clothes in a large electric pizza oven at around 300C (I know, this is not a good enough oven for making "real" pizza). I'm sure the pizza oven is better at trapping heat in. But hope your clothes are rugged enough.