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Steve Case On How To Get Funded Outside Tech Corridors (hpe.com)

Long-time reader Esther Schindler writes: Innovation occurs outside the Bay Area, New York, Boston, and Austin. So why is it so hard for a startup to get attention and acquire venture capital? Steve Case and Kara Swisher discussed this never-ending-topic recently, such as the fact 78% of U.S. venture capital last year went to just three states: California, New York, and Massachusetts. Case sees a "third wave" of venture capital funding and through his VC firm is investing in startups based outside major tech centers.

But, points out Stealthmode's Francine Hardaway, if you're in Boise or Baltimore you don't have to wait for Case to come to town. She shares advice about what's worked in other startup communities, focusing on the #YesPhx efforts.

Conventional wisdom says you should be in a major tech center to get funding, but the article offers an encouraging counterargument. "Never rely on conventional wisdom if you're an innovator. Money follows real innovation."

35 comments

  1. No it doesn't by Joehonkie · · Score: 4, Informative

    Money follows Theranos and Juicero.

    1. Re:No it doesn't by Quakeulf · · Score: 1

      I came to post exactly this. Also Facebook. Another piece of shit designed only to make us feel worse.

    2. Re:No it doesn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well said.

      captcha: prejudge

      as in bigoted capitalists prejudge people, and only people just like themselves are "innovators".

    3. Re:No it doesn't by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      There's a lot of finger pointing at the worst cases like those. Pretending it's only a few rotten apples allows investors and the industry to pretend it's not a vast sea of shit. Shkreli and Retrophin from the pharmaceutical industry for example, they were only the worst of the worst. Every damn pharma company out there is charging absurd amounts for old drugs and not spending any of it developing new ones. (The oft-cited 2.6 billion for each new drug is utter bullshit.)

      Theranos was bad, but there are hundreds of "digital health" startups with way too much VC money for what amounts to either "lets put medical records on an ipad" or "it's like a fitbit but not called fitbit."

      How the fuck is instagram or snapchat "innovative"?

      "Innovation" means "creatively acting like the same old shit is new." So I guess yeah, money does follow innovation.

  2. Killcreek by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

    Wow, glad to see John Romero's ex is still in the industry. But the idea is ludicrous. A computer company requires computer professionals, and most computer professionals live in areas with a computer industry.

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    1. Re:Killcreek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steve Case, not Stevie Case. He used to run a defunct company called "AOL". You might have heard of it. It was what brought the idiotic masses, along with all of the advertising and negative aspects of the internet along.

    2. Re:Killcreek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wake me up when September ends.

  3. What about Seattle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are known for their startups, kinda.

    1. Re:What about Seattle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      too much rain
      too much homeless
      too much asian

    2. Re:What about Seattle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing I know about Seattle is that it's filled with a bunch of coffee drinking slackers listening to Grunge music and hanging out at the Space Needle.

  4. Because by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Except for certain high-profile projects, VC money is used when it's time to scale not when still developing in the garage.

    Silicon Valley is for scaling up and for known entities, but not for an unknown startup to do R&D. So develop wherever you're from and when ready go to SV for customers and money.

    1. Re:Because by mikael · · Score: 2

      The tricky thing is that you need people with knowledge to do the R&D. If you are a startup based on academic research and located in a university area, then that is very easy. to do. The other obstacles are then affordable housing/rentals, short commutes, good schools for families as well as healthy meals for staff.

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  5. Esther? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Long time not seen. Was she a he once before, in the long ago time?

    1. Re:Esther? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be Ina Fried

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    2. Re:Esther? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Hi Esther! Don't let the trolls get to you. I'm one of the people trying to maintain a vestige of the old Slashdot here.

  6. conventional wisdom and uncommon sense by rmdingler · · Score: 1

    Conventional wisdom says you should be in a major tech center to get funding, but the article offers an encouraging counterargument. "Never rely on conventional wisdom if you're an innovator. Money follows real innovation."

    A guy in a town we lived in, once upon a time, shot a buck white tail in the middle of town square, and got 30 days for discharging a firearm within meters of a Girl Scout cookie stand.

    I tell you that to tell you this: Most deer hunters shoot their quarry in the hill and dale, but you certainly can bag a deer near the center of civilization.

    It's just not the percentage bet.

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  7. Steve Case is high. by tlambert · · Score: 2

    Steve Case is high.

    The article starts out claiming AOL was there at the start of the Internet, and helped pave the way -- but really, "MeTooLand" (AOL) only connected itself to the Internet through a number of large VAX machines, in a last ditch attempt at to maintain relevance, in the face of educated kids asking their parents why they are paying so much money to AOL for what amounts to Internet access. AOL was the sugary cereal "adjacent to this complete breakfast".

    He states that "innovation can happen anywhere" (it can) and that "we should be funding outside traditional central areas" (debatable).

    And then his three examples are Sweetgreen, Framebridge, and OrderUp, which are all within one hour driving distance of each other in the DC/Baltimore metroplex.

    In other words: he's funding outside of "traditional central areas" by declaring a new central area, and then claiming it's not central.

    My interpretation of this, and the specific mention of these there portfolio companies for Revolution Growth, where Steve Case works, is that the VC is starting to see that a VC needs multiple VC's when it invests in a risk company, in order to spread the risk, and that no one is coming to their party.

    1. Re:Steve Case is high. by TheSync · · Score: 1

      And then his three examples are Sweetgreen, Framebridge, and OrderUp, which are all within one hour driving distance of each other in the DC/Baltimore metroplex.

      DC has long been a tech startup area (AOL, UUNET, DIGEX, Ciena, Living Social, etc.), and I know several people who got VC funding for their startups there. New Enterprise Associates (NEA) has been very active in DC, for example.

      However I think that the LEVEL and STUPIDITY of VC funding in DC is very different than the SF Bay Area - less money, and less blatantly stupid start-ups get funded in DC.

    2. Re:Steve Case is high. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, and DC hosted MITRE. Whose break-in was the genesis of Cliff Stoll's The Cuckoo's Egg.

  8. Just who we should listen to for tech advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Last person I'd want to listen to about tech is Steve Case.

    1. Re:Just who we should listen to for tech advice by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      So says the AC to the billionaire.

    2. Re:Just who we should listen to for tech advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump is a billionaire too. You sure you want to pull that card?

    3. Re:Just who we should listen to for tech advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump is possibly not a billionaire and possibly never has been. His valuations are ephemeral/

      Though doubling the membership dues at Mar-A-Lago will help.

  9. Does one company need millions of programmers? by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Dallas, for example, has about 100,000 IT professionals. How many does your company need? In my specific niche, IT security, over 100 people regularly attend IT security events. Our *monthly* OWASP meeting is probably 60 people, and that's maybe 1% of the IT security people in town, so there are roughly 6,000 IT security professionals for a company in Dallas to choose from. How many does your company need?

    Actually more than that - my company chose me from a city three hours away. To make it worth moving, the paid me enough that I bought a 3,500 square foot house here in Dallas, yet that cost them roughly the same as an *intern* costs in San Jose.

    1. Re:Does one company need millions of programmers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll grant that SF itself has a huge number of positives: never very hot or cold, great scenery, lots to do. Would you say that San Jose does? What about, say, Fremont?

      DFW has its downsides: traffic, summer heat, lots of violent weather. But OTOH it's inexpensive, there's an enormous amount of things to do, and taxes (other than property, which you can limit by living in a smaller, cheaper house) are low.

      I'm not exactly sure how it ended up this way, but DFW metro is basically the capital of the Red States in much the same way that Atlanta is the capital of black America. If that's your tribal affiliation, you'll be very happy there, and you'll learn to deal with the sucky parts just like you would learn to deal with the sucky parts anywhere. I'd certainly rather live in DFW than in the DC exurbs.

    2. Re:Does one company need millions of programmers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've lived in both places. I would take SF over any place in Texas any day if I had to live in the US again.

  10. About business, not government policy by raymorris · · Score: 1

    I voted against Trump, twice, partly because he doesn't know anything about government policy and governing. Yeah, he's an "outsider", also known as a newbie.

    On the other hand, there are four billion reasons to think he knows something about business, specifically high-end real estate.

  11. Follow the funding and experts by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    What is so special about the east and west coast?
    Network distance and ping to Asia and the EU? Some collection of international networks in and out of the USA?
    A local US finance sector that needs really fast network speed?
    Lots of free state and federal funding for a few of the best academic locations in the USA that still grade on merit?
    A lot of optical networks thanks to the needs US gov and mil?
    The lifestyle and wealth of the local people with cash to invest in the ideas? The parts of the US they want to live in and support ideas in?
    The politics, weather and wealth on the US west coast?
    Other states just cant in pull decades of mil, gov, telco, state and federal academic funding that people with cash like to build their new ides on?
    The location of ex and former NSA, CIA, mil staff and expert legal teams that can work with the US gov and have the contacts and can help with any gov/mil bids?
    Other states might have lots of cheap fast optical and low power cost at some new locations but cant bring in legal, funding, gov, ex mil, education, city and state gov support.
    Their city or state gov is too poor, too focused on decades of pension issues, has no working budget for tech issues, the city issues with cheap power, lack of real network options, strange local tax rates that might get lowered for some type of investment.

    Local education is passing failed students with no skills.
    City and state governments then demand all the "passed" failed students get high tech jobs as part of tax cuts and other support to attract new jobs.
    A company then has to look after failed students and support them into the role of below average staff and keep hiring.
    Other city and states are not worth the local staffing risk even with new fast networks, cheaper power and less tax.
    A small tax cut does not cover the huge costs of having to hire lots of new local staff with no skills.

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    1. Re:Follow the funding and experts by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      What is so special about the east and west coast?

      The east coast is old money, and the west coast was populated by free thinkers, the adventurous, and the mighty-testicled. The part in between is full of people who said "I'll head west" and just gave up in the middle somewhere.

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    2. Re:Follow the funding and experts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow that is hugely offensive to folks living in the mid-west. Good job.

    3. Re:Follow the funding and experts by mikael · · Score: 1

      You have all the universities (UCB, Stanford, Caltech, UCLA) as well as a critical mass of tech companies that allows interchange of staff and the creation of a new company overnight. Getting a new job is as easy as going out for lunch. This applies to the East coast as well. Neither area is lumbered with a large unemployed population claiming benefits.

      Having so many corporations means that a startup can remain in stealth mode and keep under the radar of politicians and quangocrats. I've known companies to implode because the local government office instructed that they were instructed "not to promote anyone any further but instead to have a fresh talent initiative".

      Weather isn't that much of a factor. Even places close to the Arctic circle can have a strong tech base providing the quality of life is high.

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    4. Re:Follow the funding and experts by drinkypoo · · Score: 0

      Wow that is hugely offensive to folks living in the mid-west. Good job.

      The voters in the flyover states who think they should be ten times more important than me even though they are still stuck in the puritan past are far more offensive.

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    5. Re:Follow the funding and experts by AmazingRuss · · Score: 1

      I grew up in the midwest, and he's spot on about most of the people I knew... and they're already offended by the idea that lots of people live in nice, expensive areas that the midwesterners could never make it in.

  12. How to get funding by Ryanrule · · Score: 1

    Be born rich, with rich friends, and rich connections. Grats on your funding.