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Facebook Pledges To Crack Down on Government-led Misinformation Campaigns (theverge.com)

Facebook is pressing its enforcement against what it calls "information operations" -- bad actors who use the platform to spread fake news and false propaganda. From a report: The company, which published a report on the subject today, defines these operations as government-led campaigns -- or those from organized "non-state actors" -- to promote lies, sow confusion and chaos among opposing political groups, and destabilize movements in other countries. The goal of these operations, the report says, is to manipulate public opinion and serve geopolitical ends. The actions go beyond the posting of fake news stories. The 13-page report specifies that fake news can be motivated by a number of incentives, but that it becomes part of a larger information operation when its coupled with other tactics and end goals. Facebook says these include friend requests sent under false names to glean more information about the personal networks of spying targets and hacking targets, the boosting of false or misleading stories through mass "liking" campaigns, and the creation propaganda groups. The company defines these actions as "targeted data collection," "false amplification," and "content creation." Facebook plans to target these accounts by monitoring for suspicious activity, like bursts of automated actions on the site, to enact mass banning of accounts.

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  1. About time by klingens · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So what exactly will they do to prevent misinformation spread by the 50 US governments (federal and all 50 states)?
    Those are by far the worst spreaders world wide by a wide margin. Past highlights which have been all proven to be false are especially all war related news from 120 years ago up to today. Every single one of them, from "Remember the Maine!", to Gulf of Tonkin, to babies in incubators, responsibility to protect, WMDs, sarin, etc.

    Lies, more lies, US government.

    1. Re:About time by epyT-R · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah because other world governments never distort facts to justify their agendas.

    2. Re:About time by bmo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, you twit, his point was that if they're going to censor non-US "fake news sites" they should censor US fake-news *also.*

      But that's not going to happen, because "Official News" is what the US government wants you to believe and nothing else. There is no independent mainstream media anymore. The ones with "access" to the WH and elsewhere in DC are the ones that act as stenographers for the official party line (the party being that of the moneyed), truth be damned.

      Just because other countries do it doesn't mean it's right for us to do it. And just because other countries do it, doesn't mean we /don't'/ as I will illustrate further down below.

      If you defend the "purity" of the US, then you've bought into the biggest pile of bullshit going.

      I wrote this the week following Easter:

      ---begin paste ---

      I watched a Sunday news program this Easter with The Nan (Marirose's mom). The harebrained manufacture of consent and propaganda being spewed from the Tee Vee astounded me in its transparency. I just /couldn't/ accept what they were selling because it felt like I was in a time warp being sold the same bill of goods about Saddam. And it was about going to war with /both/ Syria and North Korea.

      I couldn't tell you which one it was, because I never saw the intro and my Sunday viewing habits are... scarce.

      All the way from Vietnam to the present day...

      "Every time we've gone to war in my lifetime, the government has lied to us" - Jimmy Dore

      Jimmy Dore is my age. He's absolutely correct.

      From the Gulf of Tonkin to today, it's been a lie /every time/. Without fail, it's been a lie.

      Every
      Single
      Time

      For my 51 years on this spinning speck of dirt in the universe, these lies have caused millions to needlessly suffer and die either directly in the case of Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc., (this includes the war on some drugs in Columbia and elsewhere and covert wars such as in Central America) or indirectly in the case of Cambodia and others. And absolutely nobody in the US, who has any power at all, has any negative repercussions on them for starting a war with a lie. Indeed, such people rise to the top and wear epaulets with stars on them and shiny suits or at least show up on TV as a sage and get paid to offer pro-war opinion.

      The entire history of the US from the end of WWII to today is the history of manufactured consent for war through the media. Had Herr Goebbels lived to see it instead of taking cyanide, he would have been proud.

      "Now you can join the ranks of the illustrious
      In history's great dark hall of fame
      All our greatest killers were industrious
      At least the ones that we all know by name

      But you can reach the top of your profession
      If you become the leader of the land
      For murder is the sport of the elected
      And you don't need to lift a finger of your hand"

      -- The Police "Murder by Numbers"

      When I leave this vale of tears or shuffle off this mortal coil, the number of middle fingers I will have to give will be counted in /sagans/.

      Fuck you, you fucking fucks.

      ---end paste---

      I was corrected later that the use of media to manufacture consent for war in the US was /at least/ as old as the Spanish American War.

      --
      BMO

  2. Would this move would have prevented the IRAQ war? by bogaboga · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The company, which published a report on the subject today, defines these operations as government-led campaigns -- or those from organized "non-state actors" -- to promote lies, sow confusion and chaos among opposing political groups, and destabilize movements in other countries. The goal of these operations, the report says, is to manipulate public opinion and serve geopolitical ends.

    I will never forget the then Secretary of State saying IRAQ had WMDs, leading to a war that has killed thousands and sown seeds of mayhem in Iraq.

    They were not done. They then attacked one of the most prosperous Arab countries (read Libya).

    They now have Syria in their sight...again to destabilize.

    Whether this would have stopped the meaningless carnage I what I do not know.

    I have not been a friend of FB, but they have my full support in this effort.

  3. Re:Ah yes, Facebook by unixisc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah. One thing I was wondering - does this mean that they'll become an online arm of the 'RESIST' movement, or does it mean that they'll stand up to actual international thuggish regimes, like North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Pali Authority, et al?

  4. More proof social media is CANCEROUS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How much more evidence do you need to see before you leave social media, especially Facebook, behind for good? You do not need Facebook. You do not need any social media at all. Go be social with people the right way, in person, face-to-face, or at least call them on the phone (Remember that? Talking to people? It is still a Thing, go do more of it!).

  5. Re:Ah yes, Facebook by amiga3D · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or the worst of both worlds. I think I'd rather sift through the crap myself than have the likes of Facebook and Google deciding what I can see.

  6. Re:US Gov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I was. It is. The parent poster proves my case by his frothing reply "YOU SO PARTISAN - MY SIDE IS PURE!"

    We just had 8 years where fake news, propaganda and anything released from the Obama Administration was treated as unabashed facts. Now, suddenly the tables have turned and we have to have watchdogs and monitoring for propaganda so facebook can tell us TEH TRUUFF!

    Yeah, that's a load of BS. Facebook is just continuing to carry the DNC's water as they always have.

  7. So by AHuxley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No mention of the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.
    No upsetting Communist Party leaders.
    No negative comments on past Communist leaders.
    No comments on cults, faiths, monarchies, theocracies.
    No news about war crimes and weapons sales.
    Banning of all faith related cartoons.
    No blasphemy.
    Dont mention the policy of allowing illegal migrants to wonder around.
    No negative reviews of movies.
    No comments on the role of SJW reporting comments to governments.
    No comments on herbicides.
    No comments on genetic engineering.
    No quoting, linking to any whistleblower material. No comments about or links to terms like Birdwatcher or Blackpearl.
    No comments about engineers.
    No links about circumventing access-control measures or comments on anti-circumvention laws.

    --
    Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  8. Re:Ah yes, Facebook by Altrag · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Trouble is, you're alone on that. Most people (possibly including yourself) not only don't want to sift through stuff, they don't know how and worse, they don't recognize that they don't know how. Its not even (entirely) a Dunning-Kruger effect either -- simple confirmation bias will ensure that you disproportionately trust things you already believe. And there's nothing you can do about it. Our brains are just wired to work that way.

    So you need a way to sift through the crud that counteracts those effects and biases. Our AI technology can get us partway there these days, but its not sufficiently good to be relied on entirely. So you've got to have people in the mix. But those people will suffer the same effects you do and the only way to balance that is to throw enough (independent) people at the problem with differing viewpoints in order to average out the biases and hopefully come up with a reasonable consensus.

    Now whether Facebook and Google are the best organizations to do that is up for grabs. But at this point, I'd say they're actually among our best bets. In particular, they're not beholden to anyone but themselves. News organizations used to be the people we trusted but they've kind of dropped the ball as news has transitioned from informing us toward trying to entertain us, with a good sprinkling of partisan politics and corporate sponsorship thrown in to spice things up.

    So FB and Google. They've certainly got their fair share of issues. But what they don't really have (at least not yet) is a strong leaning toward any political spectrum, or any strong pressure from sponsors to avoid or promote specific stories. They're about as unbiased as you can find these days, outside of the few topics that directly affect their bottom line (I wouldn't necessarily trust Google to be fairly reporting on net neutrality rules for example, as they stand much to lose if net neutrality is weakened or goes away. In that particular case, Google's needs somewhat align with well.. basically anyone who isn't a major ISP.. so that works out for us but there will be other stories where Google is firmly on the opposing side.)

  9. Re: Free speech is overrated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Why you blame Hitler for your entire country's fuck up. I got news dip shit MOST of your country was in on it. You tried to be the worlds biggest ass holes and you failed. Now live with it and stop blaming Hitler because in the end you're all fuck ups.