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Stray WiFi Signals Could Let Spies See Inside Closed Rooms (sciencemag.org)

sciencehabit quotes a report from Science Magazine: Your wireless router may be giving you away in a manner you never dreamed of. For the first time, physicists have used radio waves from a Wi-Fi transmitter to encode a 3D image of a real object in a hologram similar to the image of Princess Leia projected by R2D2 in the movie Star Wars. In principle, the technique could enable outsiders to "see" the inside of a room using only the Wi-Fi signals leaking out of it, although some researchers say such spying may be easier said than done. Their experiment relies on none of the billions of digital bits of information encoded in Wi-Fi signals, just the fact that the signals are clean, "coherent" waves. However, instead of recording the key interference pattern on a photographic plate, the researchers record it with a Wi-Fi receiver and reconstruct the object in a computer. They placed a Wi-Fi transmitter in a room, 0.9 meters behind the cross. Then they placed a standard Wi-Fi receiver 1.4 meters in front of the cross and moved it slowly back and forth to map out a "virtual screen" that substituted for the photographic plate. Also, instead of having a separate reference beam coming straight to the screen, they placed a second, stationary receiver a few meters away, where it had a direct view of the emitter. For each point on the virtual screen, the researchers compared the signals arriving simultaneously at both receivers, and made a hologram by mapping the delays caused by the aluminum cross. The virtual hologram isn't exactly like a traditional one, as researchers can't recover the image of the object by shining more radio waves on it. Instead, the scientists used the computer to run the radio waves backward in time from the screen to the distance where wave fronts hit the object. The cross then popped out.

41 comments

  1. Not as easy in practice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Placing the receiver directly in "the shadow" of the target object is a nice neat experiment, but wouldn't work in a real-world room. RF bounces all over the place like a box full of mad cats. Until they work out a way of differentiating the reflections from the primary, at all possible angles simultaneously, this is just an interesting hobby project.

    1. Re:Not as easy in practice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The very fact that it's not all direct radiation is what allows a 3-D image to be made.

      What I'd like to see is a medical application. Human bodies, after all, are also transparent to many of the stray RF waves bouncing around and if one could harvest those signals and produce an internal model, then a CT-style scan would be feasible in the open air and without all the massive hardware, high voltages, and strong magnetic fields that the primitive devices of today require.

      Now if we can just shrink that down into something the size of a salt shaker, Dr. McCoy's portable medical scanner could become a reality.

  2. Lol 7 walls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm behind 7 walls lol no way to get through.

    1. Re:Lol 7 walls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well meme'd

    2. Re:Lol 7 walls by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Yet you can still post on Slashdot.... Is that your mother's basement you're in?

  3. old tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    2013: http://m.slashdot.org/story/188149
    2009: http://m.slashdot.org/story/125417

    How long until someone else "discovers" the same thing again?

    1. Re:old tech by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Funny

      2013: http://m.slashdot.org/story/18... 2009: http://m.slashdot.org/story/12...

      How long until someone else "discovers" the same thing again?

      According to the pattern, 2021

    2. Re:old tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly what I thought.

  4. Pants down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't let them catch you with your pants down!

    1. Re:Pants down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pants down doesn't matter. Images made by wifi (2D or 3D) is limited in resolution to the wavelength in use. For 2.4GHz, that is 12.5cm, for 5GHz it is 6cm.

      So they may very well be able to notice "people" among the shadows, but they'll be hard pressed to notice the presence or absence of any clothes or other detail smaller than 6-12cm.

      So, perhaps useful for cops about to storm a well-defended crime gang prepared to defend themselves, but useless for porn purposes. Two-pixel penises and three-pixel tits, no thanks. If you want to spy properly, hack their webcam instead. The wifi may be useful for that too, but in a different way.

    2. Re:Pants down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't assume that they don't know whats happening on the couch.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqo2i0Z3VMw

    3. Re:Pants down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      gait recognition
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhCR0UbW13Y
      NEC Behaviors Detection System (IAPRO)
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUCSmEUZemA
      Human hand/body posture recognition based on partial shape matching
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N41CP0f0Mg
      Tactical Hand Signals Part 1
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEfLh75wh3Q

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    4. Re: Pants down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are right about the wavelength / resolution limit, but it is relevant to a space potentially packed full of targets. If one could accept a model that includes only a few targets , then higher resolution is possible. That's what high resolution spectrum estimation is about.

  5. It's "seeing" blocked RF signals by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2

    What this is really showing is that they have worked out how to make an array antenna and composite that data to "see" what is blocking RF signals which is normally metals. I think you would be hardpressed to identify if a person was standing in the room. Still interesting though.

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    1. Re:It's "seeing" blocked RF signals by asylumx · · Score: 1

      Yes, very interesting. Not sure why they are marketing it with the fear of spies! It's already cool tech; it seems like the article could stand on its own without the need for drama.

    2. Re:It's "seeing" blocked RF signals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      W00h00 - they reinvented passive radar.

    3. Re:It's "seeing" blocked RF signals by markdavis · · Score: 1

      Yep. And the only interference it can "see" is that of metal. And only a certain distance. And only if it is still for a long time.

    4. Re:It's "seeing" blocked RF signals by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

      I think you would be hardpressed to identify if a person was standing in the room

      Unless they are wearing their tinfoil hat. Think about it...

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    5. Re:It's "seeing" blocked RF signals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Oh, crap - they can ONLY see my if I wear my tinfoil hat !
      But if I take it off...
      But if I...
      But...

      NO CARRIER

    6. Re:It's "seeing" blocked RF signals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no - its out.

      Old hat really - now its out.

      The other one is a metal usb fan - carefully modulated to alter signal strength to more code as it were - secrets out of secure places. Time delay - even over days is deadly.
      Still this is better than flushing a waterproof usb sdcard down the loo - another favorite.

    7. Re:It's "seeing" blocked RF signals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you would be hardpressed to identify if a person was standing in the room

      Unless they are wearing their tinfoil hat. Think about it...

      Dang it! I thought wearing a tinfoil condom was a good idea..

    8. Re:It's "seeing" blocked RF signals by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Well, it would work on Wolverine.

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    9. Re: It's "seeing" blocked RF signals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Logan died.

    10. Re:It's "seeing" blocked RF signals by Hylandr · · Score: 1

      It's more like a passive MRI if the logarithm and device sensitivity could be dialed in just right.

      Whether screening for disease at the hospital, scanning for weapons at the airport or in public or looking through walls to see people making drugs or bombs it could be useful. Miniaturized enough this could be a precursor to a star-trek tricorder.

      There are real possibilities here.

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    11. Re:It's "seeing" blocked RF signals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you would be hardpressed to identify if a person was standing in the room.

      Even worse, the person would have to be stationary while they scanned an entire plane just outside the room. The research paper doesn't say how long that takes, but it can't be very fast.

  6. More "security research" by 110010001000 · · Score: 1, Funny

    What is next? They can use "light waves" to detect a cross placed in a room? Its like magic and stuff!

    1. Re:More "security research" by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2

      If this is too theoretical for you then perhaps you would like this article titled, Most mammals need only 12 seconds to poop ;)

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    2. Re:More "security research" by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      What is next? They can use "light waves" to detect a cross placed in a room? Its like magic and stuff!

      If you think light waves are magic, wait until you see what they can do with magnets! #4 will shock you!

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    3. Re:More "security research" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If this is too theoretical for you then perhaps you would like this article titled, Most mammals need only 12 seconds to poop ;)

      That's only because they can't read.

    4. Re:More "security research" by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Like it? I WROTE that article! Cutting edge.

  7. Similar research by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I distinctly remember some researchers use something similar to see through walls years ago.
    It was even posted on here.
    Yeah here it was: See thruogh walls with Wi-fi.
    Video too .
    A more recent (2015) one with motion

  8. Look at your computers available wireless signals. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This can be done in most regions without having to install multiple routers and repeaters right now for most people. If you look at your available wirelss signals, you on average will see 3 or more. Most modern neighborhoods have enough routers and wireless devices that the only thing preventing the above is.......Nothing at all apparently.

  9. OK... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It will give you very fuzzy "pictures". Lots of work for uncertain and marginal benefit. Nice for a research paper or some bullshit way to get defense research money.

    Even with expensive equipment most are unable to locate interfering radio signals.
    With all this technology and wiretapping, why are the criminal organizations not turned off?

  10. Tomography by Solandri · · Score: 1

    They basically took a CT scan (computed tomography) using radio waves instead of x-rays.

    Tomography has been around for over 80 years. It's why there's no lens when you have a traditional x-ray taken. You just fire the RF rays in a uniform direction (in this case the single WiFi course acts as a point source with all rays radiating radially), and capture them using a flat photographic plate (or in this case, by moving the WiFi receiver around on a plane). What they're doing isn't even as sophisticated as a CT scan because without moving the RF source as well, they can't capture 3D information.

    1. Re:Tomography by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd seriously recommend reading up on holography and how it differs from photography (e.g. traditional X-rays) and tomography (e.g. CT). These are all very different processes. Holography certainly does capture 3D information about a scene: by recording both the amplitude *and* phase (relative to some fixed reference) of the incoming light, you can reconstruct a kind of virtual "window" into the recorded space. A camera looking through that window can be freely moved and refocused, seeing the scene as if it actually existed. Like any window though, you're limited to at most a 180 degree field of view, and will never be able to see entirely behind any object.

    2. Re:Tomography by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

      I don't see why this process would have any such limitation, you can place sensors wherever you like, capture views from multiple sides and combine them.

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  11. Next up: Windows! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of these days, they will invent glass windows to see inside a room. Oh, the horror.

  12. This isn't exactly new by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

    Sounds a little more fancy in the implementation, but using wifi as a passive radar isn't a new idea.

    https://www.extremetech.com/ex...

  13. MRI competition? by Neuronwelder · · Score: 1

    If this were true it could possibly get rid of MRI's.

  14. Mark Simon says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not for the first time, just for the first documented time..

  15. Meh - it's radar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can build an imaging radar at pretty much any frequency you want, as long as "some" of the power goes through the walls. WiFi is fine. The real challenge is modeling (and removing) the propagation effects of the walls and obstacles.
    WiFi signals make a dandy radar illuminator: they're moderately wide band, particularly if you use all the channels available.

    With today's technology, it would be like looking through one of those wavy frosted glass windows. You can easily distinguish moving objects through the window, probably see arms and legs but probably not resolve features.

    With sufficient computational horsepower and sufficiently sophisticated transmitter/receiver arrays (lots of elements to get lots of independent looks), you could probably do it.