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How Not to Make a Movie About Tech (theringer.com)

'The Circle' (a techno-thriller movie starring Tom Hanks and Emma Watson) is a dated, far-fetched parable about an imaginary villain -- and far less scary than its television counterpart, says Alyssa Bereznak, a staff writer at The Ringer. An anonymous reader shares the article, removing the excerpts that could spoil the plot: Hollywood is keen on illustrating the awesome power of modern-day tech companies and the elite class of entrepreneurs who run them. But lately the most effective way to do that is not to focus on what's possible, but to illustrate the real-life personalities that control the near future of tech. Stylistically, a show like HBO's Silicon Valley couldn't be further from a production like The Circle, and yet it succeeds in threading together a host of issues in tech culture, including major corporations' monopoly-like power to squash competitors, manipulate the unwitting tech press, and bypass the interests of their employees and users for the sake of better stock prices. Now at the beginning of its fourth season, the show is lauded for its highly researched, accurate depictions of the Bay Area's power players -- so much so that it has spurred at least one Business Insider post dedicated to identifying each character's real-life inspiration. (The show has even featured a handful of cameos from the industry's power brokers, including Snapchat CEO Evan Spiegel and Alphabet executive chairman Eric Schmidt.) Even if it does take place in a comedy created by the man who gave us Beavis and Butt-Head, the show's researched interpretation of real life is a much more compelling way to display the tech world's flaws, rather than simply relying on imagined scaremongering.

58 comments

  1. Headline is off topic by XXongo · · Score: 5, Informative

    The headline is a little misleading. The headline seems to be about the movie "The Circle", but the text about the tv show "Silicon Valley".

    1. Re:Headline is off topic by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Their advice also seems to center on 'Have a genius (Mike Judge) make the show, don't be a bunch of incompetent hollywood hacks.'

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    2. Re:Headline is off topic by slew · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The headline is a little misleading. The headline seems to be about the movie "The Circle", but the text about the tv show "Silicon Valley".

      Although the summary is mostly about the TV show "Silicon Valley", the article is a movie review panning "The Circle" and offers up the TV show as a way to a better at

      The headline is the same as the movie review title.

    3. Re:Headline is off topic by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      It's not bad advice.... too bad it doesn't easily scale.

    4. Re:Headline is off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Succeed by being successful. Be successful. Don't not be successful.

    5. Re:Headline is off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Office Space. Did you get that memo?

    6. Re:Headline is off topic by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      The headline is a little misleading. The headline seems to be about the movie "The Circle", but the text about the tv show "Silicon Valley".

      I was thoroughly confused by this as well.

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    7. Re:Headline is off topic by boristdog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't know, he pretty accurately predicted the future.

    8. Re:Headline is off topic by WrongMonkey · · Score: 1

      A lot of idiots get the wrong message about a lot of movies. This is especially true for satire. Doesn't mean that movies themselves are bad.

    9. Re:Headline is off topic by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Beavis and Butthead...Pure 100% _Genius_.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    10. Re:Headline is off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's buried under the 87 reminders to put the new cover sheets on the TPS reports.

    11. Re:Headline is off topic by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      The same guy also made Office Space.

      So, do tell, what two movies have YOU made that are more famous and have better cultural cachet?

    12. Re:Headline is off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their advice also seems to center on 'Have a genius (Mike Judge) make the show, don't be a bunch of incompetent hollywood hacks.'

      It's based on a novel by David Eggers, who is a fairly well respected author. Dude's got an honorary doctorate even. On the other hand, I think he bragged about not doing any background research on the companies he was parodying lest it interfere with his vision, so perhaps the advice should be don't hire pretentious literary twats to write about technology.

    13. Re:Headline is off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just outed yourself as one of the people the GP was talking about.

    14. Re:Headline is off topic by interkin3tic · · Score: 0

      Genius = two famous movies?

    15. Re: Headline is off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The guy who made "idiocracy" cannot be considered a "genius" except maybe at making idiots feel smarter about themselves.

      Are you kidding, that movie is prophetic. The very next presidential election we just might get president Camancho http://flavorwire.com/537887/who-said-it-presidential-hopeful-donald-trump-or-idiocracy-president-camacho

    16. Re:Headline is off topic by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Silicon Valley is a show about finance and entrepreneurs. The tech aspect is either glossed over, seen through the eyes of a non-technical founder (or more likely, writer), or sometimes outright wrong.

      In other words, it focuses on everything I hate about this valley, and glosses over everything I don't like.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    17. Re:Headline is off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but its, like, soooo true man. you know? its like thats exactly happening, all those dumb people fucking, next thing you know everyone is dumb. its so true. you know?

    18. Re:Headline is off topic by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      And 'Beavis and Butthead', never forget his master work. 'King of the Hill', and 'Goode Family' were really B&B spinoffs. Characters that got their own show.

      Ignore Diarrhea. That was MTV fucking things up.

      There are episodes of Beavis and Butthead that are as much genius as any '3 Stooges' short or Marx brothers movie.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    19. Re: Headline is off topic by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Yes, only truth in fiction writing!

    20. Re: Headline is off topic by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      So when new content is significantly changed from original content, should title remain the same?

    21. Re:Headline is off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are episodes of Beavis and Butthead that are as much genius as any '3 Stooges' short or Marx brothers movie.

      And that right there is what folks mean by the term "Fake News"

  2. Mike Judge by Miamicoastguard · · Score: 0

    He might have given us Beavis & Butthead but the guy seems to make a decent point of steering clear of bullshit. Take idiocracy for instance, pretty spot on. Also any show without obvious product placement every second shot/line is a good indicator the show is probably more interested in it's content than the usual whores of television.

  3. Re:Close up cameo of a SV CEO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Such a Realistic portrayal, thanks!

  4. Remake.... by TemporalBeing · · Score: 1

    I read the description and it reminded me too much of the Antitrust (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218817/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_34) from 2001, just rehashed with different actors, etc.

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  5. Huh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Suddenly a villain who is all about using his software to integrate into the personal lives of everyone, record everything and dictate what they say and think is a "dated and far fetched" parable.

    And yet it's the very thing Zuckerberg, Natella and Larry Page are DOING.

    Except, y'know, they all support SJW causes so they're not villains they're... good guys and we must move on from thinking a fully monitored society is "bad".

    Until "Cheeto" gets ahold of it...

    1. Re:Huh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      “Hey, Beavis. This guy’s your dad.”-Butt-Head referring to Yanni after watching one of his videos

    2. Re:Huh... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      And yet it's the very thing Zuckerberg, Natella and Larry Page are DOING.

      I'm reading "Chaos Monkeys: Obscene Fortune and Random Failure in Silicon Valley" by Antonio Garcia Martinez, about Facebook advertising. I'm at the part where Facebook internal data connects with external data to attach personal information on to every piece of data that Facebook had collected from the web. Scary stuff.

    3. Re:Huh... by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I'm at the part where Facebook internal data connects with external data to attach personal information on to every piece of data that Facebook had collected from the web. Scary stuff.

      It's like the NSA, only full of functional people who can work for a living instead of being in a sheltered workshop for people with James Bond fantasies - of course it's scary.

    4. Re:Huh... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      [...] a sheltered workshop for people with James Bond fantasies [...]

      Wait a minute... that sound like my government IT job.

    5. Re:Huh... by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Good point.
      There's a few other "special" places out there that are too big for failure to wipe them out so they sustain a state of failure indefinitely.

      However when the boss demands the highest possible security clearances for all staff and then invites a Hollywood set designer to just wander in and look at everything to do a Star Trek themed "command center" it's part of an especially special kind of failure. There's a very long, very public list but that's the one that really stood out.

    6. Re:Huh... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      However when the boss demands the highest possible security clearances for all staff and then invites a Hollywood set designer to just wander in and look at everything to do a Star Trek themed "command center" it's part of an especially special kind of failure.

      Sounds like some of the NOCs (Network Operations Centers) I've visited at Fortune 500 companies. Impresses the hell out of visitors but not very functional for day-to-day network operations.

    7. Re:Huh... by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Yes, and the epic fail with that NSA incident was the guy was not cleared in any way and was free to roam around.

  6. Cracking.. not Hacking. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113243/

    Nuff said.

    1. Re:Cracking.. not Hacking. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh dear lord no.. my eyes.. I'm blind! My ears are bleeding.

  7. So what are we talking about? by wjcofkc · · Score: 4, Insightful
    At first I thought, "Worst summary ever." That is to say within the context of are we talking about a movie or a TV show. Then I tried to read the article: summary forgiven.

    ‘The Circle’ is a dated, far-fetched parable about an imaginary villain—and far less scary than its television counterpart

    I find nothing in this article that is so damning as it is implied I should be led to believe.

    An anonymous reader shares the article, removing the excerpts that could spoil the plot:

    Fucking seriously? This article should have never been written. This is a thinly veiled advertisement for a TV show at the expense of a movie. I call bullshit.

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    1. Re:So what are we talking about? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      The primary problem of The Circle is it's boring. Even the trailer is boring. They couldn't get enough interesting parts in the movie to fill a whole trailer. Even Antitrust did a better job of being a good movie.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  8. Antitrust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think I liked the movie better when it was called Antitrust

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218817/?ref_=nv_sr_5

  9. Re:Close up cameo of a SV CEO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    “Settle down Beavis. This is only gonna hurt for like a minute or something.” – Butthead

  10. Re:Close up cameo of a SV CEO by unixisc · · Score: 1

    It's amazing how Butthead was the smarter of the 2, despite the name

  11. SPOILER ALERT! by Sir+Holo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The linked article mostly describes the plot-line of the last episode of Silicon Valley, complete with spoilers coming at you without warning. Poor journalistic form.

    NOTE: I've never heard of this website/web-zine before. I've already forgotten their name, actually (but I hit Ctrl-K to blacklist them, so don't need to remember).

    Why did this "never heard of before" outlet have an article on the front-page of /.? Much less a bad article about nothing but spoiling your fun if you haven't seen the latest Silicon Valley episode?

  12. Should have called it by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    The circle jerk?

  13. there is a bigger difference by retchdog · · Score: 1

    Silicon Valley is a long-form serial, which is a completely different medium than a movie. By the end of the current season, Silicon Valley will have run for a total of 19 hours over four years, while The Circle is 1h50 and has to focus on one narrative thread.

    this isn't to say SV isn't remarkable, as there a lot of mediocre TV shows, but seriously it's goddam impossible to do the same thing in under two hours.

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    "They were pure niggers." – Noam Chomsky
  14. Re:Close up cameo of a SV CEO by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    He was only a tiny bit smarter. To make up for it, Beavis had 'frenzy' superpowers/alterego.

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    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  15. It's already been done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The plot of The Circle is basically the same plot as Kingsman: The Secret Service, only "The Circle" is rated PG-13 instead of Kingsman's, well deserved, R rating.

  16. Nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anti-Trust was a better movie.

  17. The book sucked by tgv · · Score: 1

    I started reading the book, which was pretty hyped a few years ago, and it sucked. It's totally unbelievable, from setting to characters. Why it got so much praise is beyond me. Probably because it was a book that literary critics could understand.

    1. Re: The book sucked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Because it was a sjw jackoff fantasy lie where black men and young women created the modern tech revolution.

  18. Odd. My adblocker seems to be failing. by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How did this ad get past it?

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  19. A non-starter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Emma Watson regurgitating words someone else wrote while being intensely cute can't overcome the fact she's a feminist. By default won't see.

  20. The Circle ... (Spoilers?) by MondoGordo · · Score: 1

    I'll restrict my comments to the Circle. It's not a great movie, but it's not bad. It's not entertaining. It's a little too real for that. It's very much a "Big Brother" tale with all the check boxes of rising totalitarianism ticked. It proposes the idea that privacy is dying and either is or soon will be extinct. It further proposes that we have a choice, as to the consequences of the extinction of privacy. We can either blindly surrender to it and allow corporations and governments to be the arbiters of what is and what isn't transparent, and how that lack of privacy is used; or we can accept the inevitable and ensure that everything is revealed to everyone, that no one controls that knowledge for their own ends. Frankly, the idea that the extinction of privacy is inevitable is a scary one. The idea that some individual, corporation or government has control of it is far, far worse.

  21. Re:Close up cameo of a SV CEO by unixisc · · Score: 1

    While the magnitude may be subjective, he was noticably smarter

  22. Re:Close up cameo of a SV CEO by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    You'll note that: every time he is smarter, he is still a _huge_ dumbass.

    e.g. 'Stick it in her taco', 'I'm trying dumbass, but first I've got to get her to take the spanish fly' also: 'Hey Butthead they spelled Womyn wrong' 'Cool, dumb chicks are easy' or the times that Beavis is clearly smarter, again from Womyn. 'These chicks are giving it away, why aren't there other dudes here' 'Fartknocker, you're in a room full of women that give it away for free and you're worried about where the dudes are, what's wrong with you?'

    To say nothing of the times that Butthead doesn't know either, but bluffs: Blood donation: 'They stab you, and soak up the blood in with a rag, then squeeze it in container'.

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    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'