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Days Before Election: Macron Campaign Says It Is the Victim of Massive, Coordinated Hacking Campaign (cnbc.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNBC: A large trove of emails from the campaign of French presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron was posted online late on Friday, a little more than a day before voters go to the polls to choose the country's next president in a run-off against far-right rival Marine Le Pen. Some nine gigabytes of data were posted by a user called EMLEAKS to Pastebin, a document-sharing site that allows anonymous posting. It was not immediately clear who was responsible for posting the data or whether the emails were genuine. In a statement, Macron's political movement En Marche! (Onwards!) confirmed that it had been hacked. "The En Marche! Movement has been the victim of a massive and co-ordinated hack this evening which has given rise to the diffusion on social media of various internal information," the statement said. In its statement on Friday, En Marche! said that the documents released online only showed the normal functioning of a presidential campaign, but that authentic documents had been mixed on social media with fake ones to sow "doubt and misinformation." "The seriousness of this event is certain and we shall not tolerate that the vital interests of democracy be put at risk," it added.

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  1. How is "Democracy at risk"? by mi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "The seriousness of this event is certain and we shall not tolerate that the vital interests of democracy be put at risk"

    How is Democracy at risk over this? Does not "information want to be free"? Is not it good that voters know more about the candidate, than less?

    Suppose, somebody hacked Trump's tax-returns — would that also be denounced as a threat to Democracy, or cheered?

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    1. Re:How is "Democracy at risk"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Quite easy: by controlling what is leaked and when.

      What: make sure to only leak truths that hurt a certain candidate more than the other, preferably the one that you support.
      When: make sure to do so a few days before general election, especially if the polls are showing the candidate that you don't support to have a considerable advantage.

      What you're talking about is utopia: if people had access to all information at all times, yes, in that case I'd agree with you. But that's not what we have here, here we have controlled leaks of certain information damaging a certain candidate right before the election. If that's not an attempt to influence elections (and thus a threat to that democracy) I don't know what it is.

    2. Re:How is "Democracy at risk"? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's good if the information is accurate.

      Accuracy is always good, but a lot of it is subjective.

      No, it's either a genuine stolen document or it's a false document designed to mislead. There is no middle ground.

      And, besides, when Hillary's e-mails were posted, no one protested the content. People were outraged over "Putin" meddling in the US elections, but I don't recall anyone calling any particular e-mail a fake...

      The truth was damming enough.

      Besides, politicians — and their fans — lie and exaggerate all the time, it is par of the course. Why should the requirements and the expectations be higher for leaked info?

      Exaggerations are just another form of lying. Either information is true or it is false. Everyone should be held to this standard.

      The problem here is that misinformation has been mixed in with the information

      Has it been? Citations?

      The burden of proof comes on the original claim that they are genuine.

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  2. Re: Putin at it again? by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So you don't think Russia has something to gain by a pack of Euroskeptics taking over major European countries? And this is hardly the first accusation laid against Russia in this regard.

    Just how many of these hacks are going to have to happen before we all finally admit that Moscow is still the enemy of the West, that where it has no hope in hell of over economically or militarily dominating the Western alliance, it can try destabilize Western countries and the alliance itself.

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  3. Re:Putin at it again? by mjwx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They funny thing is Le Penn has also filed a complaint about hacking by the "extreme left"! So whether that is supposed to attack the credibility of Macron's accusations or add to them, we dont know.

    The thing is, the extreme left... or the left in general don't have a candidate in this election. Marcon is centre right (he's a banker), Le Pen is extreme right.

    France is centre right leaning in general though, so I expect this to be a victory for Marcon, sadly not enough of a victory to put Front National out of its misery.

    I wouldn't trust anything coming out of Le Pen to be accurate or grounded in reality. She's basically following Trumps strategy of attacking her opponent instead of announcing policy but in a far less competent manner (yes, I didn't think it was possible either).

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  4. Re:Putin at it again? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "She's basically following Trumps strategy of attacking her opponent..."

    Thereby becoming the first political candidate in history to do so.

  5. Re: Putin at it again? by misexistentialist · · Score: 1, Insightful

    how many times has the USA been caught hacking? NSA no doubt had a copy of those emails, maybe before the spellcheck could execute. Of course the USA just hacks for computer science, never uses the information to influence anything.

  6. Re:Putin at it again? by rtb61 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As far as I can see, telling the bloody truth about what is going on in political party caimpagns, should be compulsary under law and attempting to keep it secret should be considered a criminal act punishable by an extended custodial sentence.

    Those fuckers have no problem prying into our lives after they are elected and we have every single fucking right to pry into the tiniest detail of their election campaign and that should be mandated by law.

    What an absurd notion, people running for election for public office have the right to keep secrete what is really going on in their political campaign, how fucking insane is that. No more secrets, no more dual campaigns one private and one public, no more right to allow basically corrupt political campaigns, no one has a right to private political campaigns when running for public office. By law all political campaign communications should be public and live, no more back room deals, no mare tax haven junkets where the deals are made and the bribes paid. Every single political campaign communication should be public, every email, every call, every meeting, not more election secrets.

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  7. Re:Putin at it again? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Politicians that try to emulate Trump tend to fail because they can't bring themselves to go all in. They just can't let go and say that stupid shit that puts them firmly in the post-truth realm. Can't bring themselves to mock the disabled or the other candidates' spouses, proving they will say anything with no filtration.

    Basically they can't let go of their dignity and throw themselves 100% into the role. Trump can only do it because it's not a role for him, it's just him.

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  8. Re: Putin at it again? by scatbomb · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Wow, gullible.

    So you don't think Russia has something to gain by a pack of Euroskeptics taking over major European countries? And this is hardly the first accusation laid against Russia in this regard.

    And you don't think anyone has something to gain by implicating Russia in hacking elections?

    Just how many of these hacks are going to have to happen before we all finally admit that Moscow is still the enemy of the West, that where it has no hope in hell of over economically or militarily dominating the Western alliance, it can try destabilize Western countries and the alliance itself.

    Well it took 1 for you apparently. What kind of "hacker" doesn't know about VPNs and woudn't buy a new keyboard? The fact that a Russian ISP was involved and a cyrillic keyboard screams "fake." Nonetheless, I'm sure the "Russian hackers" will continue until everyone in the West is screaming for Putin's head and witch hunts are commonplace. Convenient.