Systemd-Free Devuan Linux Announces A Second Release Candidate (devuan.org)

An anonymous reader quotes The Register: Devuan Linux has released its second release candidate... A 1.0.0 release candidate emerged just under a fortnight ago and today the developers announced Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 RC2. New in this cut of the code is a systemd-free version of network-manager, new versions of reportbug, desktop-base and xfce4-panel. GNOME, KDE, and Cinnamon have been removed from tasksel, but can still be installed although they "are known to suffer from some glitches due to the lack of systemd."
The Devuan web site says this series of release candidates "marks an important milestone towards the sustainability and the continuation of Devuan as a universal base distribution." And their announcement describes Devuan as "the Debian that was and could have been. Our goal is to provide a viable and sustainable alternative...a new path, nurtured with your help and support."

Comments

You are an idiot, STFU, GTFO!

[Anonymous Coward]

Debian violated it's charter when it made the systemd move. No if's, and's, or butt'$; at this point in time, Debian is mimicking RHat while Devuan is sitting as a Slackware alternarive.

The accounted flexibility is in the developers of Devuan as seeing that Debian stagnated inro proprietary hands now.

Perhaps Devuan will promote a target experience and not a constant series of releaae candidate naming schemes like all the others.

Re:systemd

[gweihir]

Same here. Same as I do not need or want, say, a TV attached to my pencil, I do not want a complex replacement for the init-system that works well for me. In particular, if that complex replacement is made by a project by two bad developers with known bad personalities that push very hard to put it in everywhere and do not care in the least what they break.

One of the very core engineering wisdoms is "if it is not broken, do not fix it". Another one is KISS. I do not mind if people want to have bad engineering on their machines (and the Windows-crowd is proof enough that many do indeed want that), but I do mind if there is pressure on me to do so too. Of course, the systemd fanatics/liars will now claim there is no such pressure and similar nonsense.