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NIST's Draft To Remove Periodic Password Change Requirements Gets Vendors' Approval (csoonline.com)

An anonymous reader writes: A recently released draft of the National Institute of Standards and Technology's digital identity guidelines has met with approval by vendors. The draft guidelines revise password security recommendations and altering many of the standards and best practices security professionals use when forming policies for their companies. The new framework recommends, among other things: "Remove periodic password change requirements." There have been multiple studies that have shown requiring frequent password changes to actually be counterproductive to good password security, said Mike Wilson, founder of PasswordPing. NIST said this guideline was suggested because passwords should be changed when a user wants to change it or if there is indication of breach.

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  1. What if... by freeze128 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The point of periodic password changes is to protect against an *UNKNOWN* breach, where the password has been compromised and the user doesn't know. Is there some other method of mitigation for this attack?

    1. Re:What if... by PCM2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Multi-factor?

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  2. Sanity by LunaticTippy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thank goodness. Frequent changes entrench bad habits and culture. People are constantly getting locked out, forgetting password. Your culture becomes one of frequent password resets with idiotic questions to verify identity. These questions are usually trivially guessable/facebookable/googleable especially since people forget these all the time too. Many helpdesks will reset passwords via phone without verifying identity since they do it constantly with frustrated resentful users. Make passwords durable. Changing it without knowing the old one should be a big difficult deal.

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  3. Ass Covering, Delusional Password Policies by FeelGood314 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most users are expected to know 22 paswords

    Seriously, fuck you, to any site admin who contributes to this.

    Real people can remember 2 or three passwords and that is all they will bother to remember. They will have maybe 2 long term secure passwords for things they personally value (and guess what, work isn't one of those things) and they will reuse the same password or variants of it on every single other system they use. No user will memorize a new password if they are expected to change it regularly. They will create the easiest password possible that meets the systems requirements.
    This is universal and everyone knows it. The previous company I worked for was a well trusted security company with a policy of passwords that had to change every 90 days, use an uppercase letter, lower case letter, number, symbol and had to be at least 8 characters. I did a survey. Over 2 thirds of engineers and 6 out of 6 in HR admitted their password was a common 6 letter English word, first letter capitalized, a symbol and a number that they incremented.

  4. Well two things by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1) If that is a big concern, use multi-factor. When real authentication security is important, multi-factor is important. You can't go and say an account is super important and needs high levels of protection but then refuse to go multi-factor.

    2) How long are you ok with an adversary having access to your systems? Is 6 months ok? 12? Those are usually what you see password change requirements set at. Are you really ok with someone having unauthorized access to your systems for 12 months, but that's it, any longer is an issue? Of course not. But to change it often enough to keep an unknown compromise to what you'd consider acceptable users would need to change passwords multiple times a day.