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Human Sense of Smell Rivals That of Dogs, Says Study (theguardian.com)

One scientific analysis is arguing that the human sense of smell has not only been underestimated over the years, but that it may rival that of dogs and rodents. John McGann, a neuroscientist at Rutgers University in New Jersey and the paper's author, said: "For so long people failed to stop and question this claim, even people who study the sense of smell for a living. The fact is the sense of smell is just as good in humans as in other mammals, like rodents and dogs." McGann has reached this unexpected conclusion after spending 14 years studying the olfactory system. The Guardian reports: McGann identifies a 19th century brain surgeon, Paul Broca, as the primary culprit for introducing the notion of inferior human olfaction into the scientific literature. Broca noted that the olfactory bulb -- the brain region that processes odor detection -- is smaller, relative to total brain volume, in people compared with dogs or rats. The discovery inspired Freud's belief that human sexual repression may be linked to our "usually atrophied" sense of smell. In the latest paper, published in Science, McGann points out that in absolute terms the human olfactory bulb is bigger than in many mammals and a literature search revealed that the absolute number olfactory neurons is remarkably consistent across mammals. McGann goes on to deconstruct other metrics that have been used to support the idea that human smelling abilities are limited. Humans have approximately 1,000 odor receptor genes, for instance, compared to 1,100 in mice, which some had taken as confirmation of mouse superiority. However, other work suggests there is not a tight relationship between the number of olfactory genes and smelling ability. One study found that cows have 2,000 such genes - far more than dogs.

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  1. I'm calling horse hockey by Snotnose · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can't smell my own BO, let alone a nice stash of coke, weed, or vodka 2 feet from my nose.

    1. Re:I'm calling horse hockey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why, did your dad get tired of that chore already? He finally figured out that he didn't need to oil the rails every time to just enjoy that ride?

    2. Re:I'm calling horse hockey by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 0

      I can't smell my own BO

      I can smell your BO, too. Over the Intertubes, for Christ's sake. I use Irish Spring, maybe you should too.

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    3. Re:I'm calling horse hockey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm 100% with you. For one, humans smell a scent as a homogeneous thing so a bag of weed is invisible if you've sprayed an air freshener but a dog can smell each of them separately and find the weed. That's why covering up scents is pretty much impossible. The only guaranteed way to hide it from a dog is to put it in a container that is non-permeable to air. And before someone brings it up, no, putting cayenne pepper down doesn't hide it. The dog will signal that something's wrong and that'll actually attract attention.

    4. Re:I'm calling horse hockey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      For one, humans smell a scent as a homogeneous thing so a bag of weed is invisible if you've sprayed an air freshener

      Maybe not for you, but for the rest of us that complain air fresheners just cover up scents, so it them smells like air freshener + weed, the smells are not homogeneous and invisible when you use air freshener.

    5. Re:I'm calling horse hockey by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      Yeah well, spring's almost over, better use it again...

      And what the headline really meant was that some humans' smell rival that of dogs.

      And if you want to make your nose a bit more sensitive, just wet it a little, like theirs.

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    6. Re:I'm calling horse hockey by mukinrestak · · Score: 0

      If you think you can cover up weed stink you are sadly mistaken. I can smell a stoner within 10 feet on a bad day. Closer to 50-100 sometimes. And no amount of air freshener, baking soda, or febreze is going to hide that smell.

    7. Re:I'm calling horse hockey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But can dogs? I thought it was common knowledge that drug sniffer dogs are basically just security theater, and the human handlers are giving them signals based on other suspicion they have most of the time.

    8. Re: I'm calling horse hockey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have twice found a coffeeshop from several blocks away in a strange city solely by following my nose, both of those times non-tokers following me were completely baffled and refused to believe that my sniffing was anything other than a show.

      Humans have a rudimentary ability for sensing the direction of scent ( http://discovermagazine.com/2007/mar/raw-data-scents-and-scents-ability#.UitShTakpHU ) and when accompanied with some general knowledge of city layouts and judging the wind the results can seem like magic (or someone fucking with you).

      Dog's olfactory sense is just wired for different purposes, ever seen a dog eat shit, a half-decayed roadkill or it's own vomit after ingesting either the first two while wagging it's tail? Or ever try to taste a dog treat? Different.

    9. Re:I'm calling horse hockey by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You thought wrong. Dogs and humans can both smell your stink. The Viet Cong could smell Americans by their soap or tobacco, same as most wild animals can. And a non-smoker can smell the stench of a smoker, even if they haven't smoked all day.

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    10. Re:I'm calling horse hockey by Reziac · · Score: 3, Informative

      [pro dog trainer here] Dogs have a wide range of scenting ability, from extremely sensitive to practically nil. Many small pet breeds have very poor noses. Easy way to tell -- a good nose IDs a scent quickly; a poor nose has to work at it. (Especially obvious with obedience-style scent discrimination exercises.)

      In my observation humans have a similar range, and on average have a better nose than some small pet dogs and most cats, if nowhere near the more-competent working-type dogs. I suspect human scenting ability parallels tasting ability; ie. supertasters probably have more-discriminating noses too. Conversely, trying to explain just how much we can smell to someone who lacks the ability is kinda like explaining color to someone who is color-blind.

      As to the notion that nostrils need a certain placement for directional scenting... have you not heard of moving your head?? watch a dog trying to peg the direction of drifting scent; it'll wag its head side to side (disguised if the dog is moving, but evident if standing still).

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  2. Study wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dog superior smell. Dog spoken. End communication.

    1. Re:Study wrong. by mentil · · Score: 2

      This may be the Internet, but I CAN tell you're a dog.

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    2. Re:Study wrong. by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      Irrespective of the size of the olfactory bulb, my dog can smell loads more than I can. We often walk in a forest, and for example I might see a deer ahead just over a rise, which my small dog does not (he'd go beserk he did). When we reach the spot where the deer was he does go beserk, pulling left and right (the direction the deer crossed the path), which can only be based on the deer's scent. I can't smell anything except grass and leaves, not even if I get down to his level.

      Some of these scientists need to get out more.

    3. Re:Study wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps you would smell it too if you were walking on all fours with your nose pointed down to the ground all the time.

    4. Re: Study wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe your dog just cares more about smell than you. Also more curious about it too as dogs often take the time to really smell things.

  3. Really? by MrLogic17 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Find me a human who can compete with a bloodhound or beagle in tracking a person, based on smelling a old shirt.

    1. Re:Really? by ckatko · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Seriously. Just because one study (that hasn't been replicated yet, the fundamental requirement of science) say something, doesn't mean it invalidates ALL of our pragmatic knowledge and experience.

        - Police aren't using humans to track drugs and dead bodies buried under ground for 7 days.

        - As an engineer, it doesn't take a genius to look at the shape of a dog's nose verses other animals to notice the huge mass and evolutionary investment in their noses. We aren't using humans to hunt for truffles. Don't you think in the course of human history it would be easier to use our noses than DOMESTICATE AND TRAIN ANOTHER ANIMAL to learn what we want?

      I mean, all we know from this snippet is we MAY have more "oder receptor genes." DO more genes = more smelling ability? And what is ability defined as? Maybe dogs can't smell [as many] types of different smells, but they can smell them BETTER at smaller parts-per-million. They may also be able to smell the DIRECTION the scent is coming from a thousand times stronger than us. Our nose is pointed DOWN, theirs is pointed FORWARD. Evolution doesn't just design stuff like that for shits and giggles.

        I mean, there are so many questions that the only thing we can really do at this point is go "Huh. Interesting." and go about our days until some REAL science starts confirming this study and exploring the actual implications. This is just clickbait at this point unless some actual EXPERTS show up in the comment section to elaborate their experiences and research.

    2. Re:Really? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Find me a human who can compete with a bloodhound or beagle in tracking a person, based on smelling a old shirt.

      Also a cow. TFS makes it sound like since cows have a poor sense of smell. That is not true at all. Pigs also have superb smelling ability. They can locate potatoes and other root vegetables even through frozen ground. Pigs are sometimes used for tracking instead of dogs. Dogs have the drawback that they will only work with one handler, who they consider their master. But a pig will work with any handler, and will consider any human to be their equal.

    3. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe we can, if we used the sense of smell more... Just like blind people revert to more sensitive hearing through practice, just like that one kid can do echolocation with tongue clicks. So maybe the body hardware is there, but without use, the brain wiring is never established. Even police dogs get training...

    4. Re:Really? by Picodon · · Score: 2

      This reminds me of a field-test, ten years ago, where researchers had volunteers follow a scent trail on all fours. It turns out that most did surprisingly well, even getting better at it with repetition. So we, humans, are actually pretty good at this. It’s just that we’re no longer quite comfortable putting (and keeping) our noses smack against the ground to take a really good whiff of whatever was down there.

      See this article (from 2006) in Nature: People track scents in same way as dogs.

      In the end, they do say that “dogs are still better at picking up the whiff of a particular person from a discarded item of clothing”. Still, I bet that with some serious training and dedication to the job, gifted people (perhaps like those employed as “noses” in the perfume industry) would probably do better than expected.

    5. Re:Really? by El+Cubano · · Score: 1

      Don't you think in the course of human history it would be easier to use our noses than DOMESTICATE AND TRAIN ANOTHER ANIMAL to learn what we want?

      From the summary:

      One study found that cows have 2,000 such genes - far more than dogs.

      Cows were probably domesticated before dogs, so it stands to reason that we could have had bomb sniffing cows and cadaver cows.

    6. Re:Really? by sodul · · Score: 0

      Well we do use human to develop new perfumes for women and men, and not really dogs or pigs, at least on the smelling part.

      In the same vein we also do not, or no longer in developed countries, use humans to transport humans, we use horses, donkeys in places where beasts are more practical than cars/trucks.

      I believe it is possible that while not as sensitive as a blood hound, our nose might be a lot more sensitive than assumed in the past but just not at a conscious level and we might not be as good at isolating individual scents amongst dozen of others. Think about hearing conversations in a crowded room, can't follow anything, but somehow you do notice when someone say your name. Could be similar with our nose.

    7. Re:Really? by rmdingler · · Score: 3, Insightful

      - Police aren't using humans to track drugs and dead bodies buried under ground for 7 days.

      You are correct, but they sure are using dogs trained by humans. You have to learn to delegate.

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    8. Re:Really? by rmdingler · · Score: 1

      But a pig will work with any handler, and will consider any human to be their equal.

      Shit, if this is true, pigs are superior to most humans.

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    9. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, pigs are awesome.

      Plus they taste great too.

    10. Re:Really? by stabiesoft · · Score: 1

      Exactly. I've owned 2 beagles. They are nothing short of amazing. One liked french fries in his later years. On walks he would pull me up to a block away if he smelled fries someone had tossed into the road. My 2nd was more of a hunter. At night he would bay at the tree and I'm thinking what? After awhile I got it. There was a field rat in the tree. I'd get a flashlight and see beady eyes staring back at me 10-15 feet in the air. He was right every single time. On walks, he'd scent a rat hole in tree roots and start digging. He'd smell squirrels on the roof. On and on. Neither were very bright, but both were driven by scent. They live in a world colored by scent.

    11. Re:Really? by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 3, Funny

      They are. People make lousy bacon.

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    12. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you know? Have you tried that luscious belly fat?

    13. Re:Really? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Funny

      But a pig will work with any handler, and will consider any human to be their equal.

      But some pigs are more equal than others.

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    14. Re:Really? by tquasar · · Score: 1

      I agree. I've been in pristine areas in the Sierra Nevada mountains where I could smell the trees and vegetation but nothing made by a person. Been to Death Valley too, the heat and solar radiation would destroy any scent. Have you smelled a rock lately?

    15. Re: Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair, human perfumes are meant to be pleasant to humans. If you're looking for perfume to make you more attractive cows... I would suggest making sure you have a really good VPN when you go to order it.

    16. Re: really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think humans use minute sent difference much differently than other creatures. We don't have to use sent for identification or finding food, we have very good eyes and ears for that. But we do use sent in particular for knowing good food from bad food. We stop and recognize small changes when other animals just woof bad food down and get sick. We also use awareness of scents for bonding and memory like how we can remember the smallest whiff of an old house we lived in or an old SO's sweatshirt.

    17. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Find me a human who can compete with a bloodhound or beagle in tracking a person, based on smelling a old shirt.

      My ex tracked two people simply by sniffing a cocktail glass. Hence, she's an ex.

    18. Re:Really? by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      But no one uses blind dogs to track an escaped convict. No one needs to, because even the dogs that can see can smell the guy's trail.

      Maybe blind bloodhounds can find even fainter scent trails that bloodhounds that aren't blind. Doesn't seem like a problem that needs fixing at the moment.

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    19. Re:Really? by Whatsisname · · Score: 2

      As an engineer, it doesn't take a genius to look at the shape of a dog's nose verses other animals to notice the huge mass and evolutionary investment in their noses. We aren't using humans to hunt for truffles

      No, we use pigs to hunt for truffles. Additionally pigs are considered to have superior olfactory sense and yet their noses aren't all that specially shaped.

    20. Re: Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      tl;dr: penis in cow butt

    21. Re: Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have my own luscious belly fat, thank you very much.

    22. Re:Really? by mentil · · Score: 1

      Human noses tend to be several feet off the ground, while dog noses are much closer (and often go to the ground to sniff stuff.) Even if a human puts their head to the ground the nostril points the wrong way to hoover up scents on the ground.

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    23. Re:really? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Having a wet nose doesn't hurt though, right?

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    24. Re:Really? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      But some pigs are more equal than others.

      Must ... resist ... Trump ... jokes ...

    25. Re:Really? by Evtim · · Score: 1

      There is a story from "The man who mistook his wife for a hat" about a young student of medicine who [if memory serves, due to trauma] for a period of several months acquired sense of smell well beyond that of our everyday experience. It seems that the " hardware" is capable of doing this, but something in the head had to go click to re-enable it.

      It is argued that present sense of smell is weak because we do not need it so much for our survival. And a speculation that a more acute sense requires more computational power so in a way poorer sense frees computational power to be used elsewhere.

      This man reported that he could identify all people in the ward of the hospital where he studied before entering. That he could smell intentions and feelings [just like dogs that can detect malicious intent] , pheromones and what not....but gradually the sense took over his reactions and he found more and more himself reacting to the smell without too much abstract thought. "The nose is taking over" - he reported. After the effect disappeared he was glad to get his higher brain functions back to normal levels but he also felt that the world was so much poorer and duller without that marvelously enhanced sense.

      I don't know if T.P. read that story but in his books one of the constant themes is how Angua's nose takes over when she is in a wolf form, suppressing the "human mind" because the sense of smell is so overwhelming and demanding.

    26. Re:Really? by Evtim · · Score: 1

      Correction: it was drugs that did it:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      and according to this article:

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/boo...

      that happened to Sacks himself experimenting with LSD.

    27. Re:Really? by Godwin+O'Hitler · · Score: 1

      A sniffer dog at an airport, trained to find drugs and banknotes, flagged my travel bag positive. The dog handler searched the bag and found nothing. When I unpacked the bag at my destination I found a squeaky-clean 5 euro note in the pocket of a shirt that had been through the washing machine.
      Of course, my being a human, I could smell it all along.

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    28. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can handle a pebble for ten seconds, throw it into a pile of very similar pebbles, in sight of my dog, and my dog will sniff furiously, and bring back the pebble I threw. The dog doesn't get clear sight of the pebble except as it is tossed. It seems unlikely a human could do the same.

    29. Re: Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I, a human, smelled this article, which smelled like bullshit well before I opened it.

    30. Re:Really? by MrL0G1C · · Score: 1

      As an engineer, it doesn't take a genius to look at the shape of a dog's nose verses other animals to notice the huge mass and evolutionary investment in their noses.

      Hmm, so what about small dogs, how do they compare?

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    31. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, my wife managed to throw our dogs frisbee into a field of oil seed rape once (the tall yellow flowers you see in fields) which have a very strong scent and managed to lose it.

      I took the dog back there two days later with an identical frisbee and pretended to throw it for him then hid it behind my back, he knew it was behind my back because he was looking at me like "Oh, ha ha, I know it's there" but I said "Go get your frisbee a few times" and got a look of "Oh, fine, we'll play this stupid game then" so off he ran into a thick dense field and came running back with his frisbee from a couple of days before after about 30 seconds.

      Do the twats behind this study not think if my sense of smell was that good that I might have gone into the field to find the fucking thing myself? The fact he could scent something that was abandoned 2 days ago, in the middle of an overpoweringly scented thick crop speaks volumes about their relative ability to smell compared to ours.

      I think what the author of this theory is missing is that it's not simply about the size of the portion of the brain that handles this, but if he hasn't fucking noticed that the relative size of a dogs nose is typically far larger than ours - their sense of smell is vastly superior because their organ for sensing smell is much larger and much more specifically designed for the task in question. We could have the largest brain centre for this task in the universe but it wouldn't much fucking matter if we had no nose in the first place would it?

      The reason there has been vastly successful co-evolution between humans and dogs (in the human race, societies that evolved alongside dogs have become far more successful than those that ate them and such) and that's precisely because they could do things we can't and were able to be successfully domesticated alongside us as natural pack animals to do those things. If they had nothing to offer we'd never have had them as pets today.

      The author of this study needs to be kicked out of the field, the mistakes he's made are amateur hour drivel that you'd expect even an undergrad to be able to pick out the obvious flaws in.

    32. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean that some pigs are more equal than humans?

    33. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why make jokes when you can throw in an insightful Orwellian reference?

    34. Re: Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah because we know that there is no such things as false positives so it must be that single euro the dog smelled...

    35. Re:Really? by Megol · · Score: 1

      Yes the title and blurb is misleading clickbait. However people do have a better sense of smell than many assume - part of smell not being used more by humans are that we don't need to. We have good general-purpose vision and hearing, we don't need smell to detect if a member of the opposite gender want to have sex, we don't mark territorial boarders with pee etc.

      However there are people that have trained to use their sense of smell like wine tasters, perfumers etc. and there have been enough research to show that the (actual) body odor is linked to sexual signaling in humans.

    36. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I heard Obama doesn't eat bacon. Because... you know...
      he secretly is... an America hater.

    37. Re: Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every once in a while I'll make a ham, beef, and shellfish sandwich.

      Because I want to make sure I've got my bases covered.

    38. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well sometimes they do: " However, some searching methods are unfamiliar to the archaeologist, like using cadaver dogs or the sense of smell when examining the probe stick. "

      From http://am.uis.no/getfile.php/Arkeologisk%20museum/publikasjoner/ams-nett/Mass_Graves2.pdf page 21.

    39. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, we use pigs to hunt for truffles.

      Saying "no, we use Y" implies that we don't use X. And that is incorrect. Some people use pigs, but some people do use dogs. Yes pigs are better at finding them, but dogs are less likely to consume them once found.

    40. Re:Really? by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 2

      Dogs can tell the direction of smells because, unlike humans, they have "stereo smell". Their nostrils are sensed separately by their left and right hemispheres. Ours are not.

      I can watch my dog sniffing a treat I am holding out for him, and he definitely samples it with one nostril, then the other, back and forth, until he has satisfied himself that It's acceptable for consumption.

    41. Re:Really? by sjames · · Score: 1

      We also have to distinguish raw capability from ability. Perhaps if parents spent as much time showing baby scratch and sniff books and saying "What is THAT smell?" as they do with picture books, we might do better. Of course, we also confound our sense of smell on a regular basis. The products that aren't actively scented often have compounds meant to damp down the sense of smell as a cover-up (sometimes they have both). Practically nothing we learn encourages us (or instructs us) to use our sense of smell.

      When is the last time you got directions that said when you smell the gardenias, turn left?

      I wouldn't be at all surprised if the human sense of smell turns out to be much better than we think given practice. All the same, I WOULD be surprised if it was actually as good as a dog's.

    42. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but consider how much OUR brains have to wire for in the modern world: we have to learn to read, math, type, hygiene, cooking, etc. Dogs don't have to do most of this. Just think how us olders can add and subtract in our heads and we see the younguns need to whip out their smartphone (another learned gadget) to compute a tip. On top of that, I believe dog's vision is inferior to ours, many carnivores have grayscale vision iirc and are primarily attracted to motion. We sit there mesmerized by video games, until LCDs, dogs couldn't even see what was on the TV screen by a quirk of their vision and the mechanism of crts (the old tvs would appear as flickering to them afaik).

      A domesticated dog's brain still needs to sniff for mating, greetings, and find/alert food.

      I'm not saying we're as good as dogs, we're herbivores afterall, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone who really went after the skill could far surpass human expectation and with his brain be more useful than the average dog to police and the like.

    43. Re:Really? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Glad somebody got it!

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    44. Re:Really? by hey! · · Score: 1

      Also, it depends on how you define and measure "performance". It seems to me there are at least two relevant axes here: detection sensitivity and discrimination ability.

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    45. Re:Really? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2

      > You are correct, but they sure are using dogs trained by humans. You have to learn to delegate.

      Often, they are using dogs "trained by humans" much like horses have been trained to do math in the infamous case of "Clever Hans". There are many court cases about spurious canine search results, and a great deal of video and legal testimony that the dog alerts are manipulated by the officers handling the dogs. See https://nevergetbusted.com/201... for more details.

      Examples of highly trained noses include skilled chefs and skilled produce inspectors, who can often detect not only the nature of the ingredients they smell but the quality of those ingredients.

    46. Re:Really? by shadowrat · · Score: 1

      Yeah. we are just tuned into different things, dogs and humans. For instance, my dog needed to get really close to a turd to smell it. He needed to be only a few microns from the surface of the poop. I am capable of detecting poop on the ground from several feet away.

    47. Re:Really? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      There is testimony from various cannibals about this:

      http://listverse.com/2015/07/0...

    48. Re:Really? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Look up long pig. It's the other other white meat.

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    49. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And humans don't want to be down in the dirt smelling stuff and exposing themselves to parasites.

    50. Re:Really? by rmdingler · · Score: 2
      A Sheriff might set roadblocks with a Game Warden, since the Warden could search the vehicle for hunting violations without a warrant.

      The bottom line: People who enforce the law want to look through your stuff? They'll go to some length to make it look as legitimate as possible, but they'll be looking through your stuff.

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    51. Re:Really? by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      Way ahead of you. The term comes from New Guinea, and because of my involvement in aid programs there around the turn of the century mi tok pisin gut pela tru. I'll just say that it smells a bit like pork...

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    52. Re: Really? by Godwin+O'Hitler · · Score: 1

      Yeah because we know that there are such things as false positives it couldn't possibly be that single euro the dog smelled...

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    53. Re:Really? by syntotic · · Score: 1

      I disagree, counting receptors is not enough just like counting retinal cones does not tell us anything about color quantization in the brain. Was this study made on a differential population of Africans vs Humans? I contend the sense of smell is almost disabled in Human beings, while it functions better than Human in Africans. In my experience Africans are always complaining of smells I and other people simply do not perceive and are very happy within clouds of dandruff while I find it disgusting. But there are reasons other than personal experience to state this. I bet no blind comparative study has been made, the issue taken as a secret.

    54. Re:really? by sabbede · · Score: 2

      I was just thinking that sensor area would obviously matter more than the size of the processing region. If someone who knows more about the topic than I do agrees, then I must be awesome. So thanks!

  4. Blunt objection by klingens · · Score: 1

    I know of drug and bomb sniffing dogs, I don't know of any drug or bomb sniffing humans.

    Maybe we have as much processing hardware dedicated to smell as dogs, but we still don't do it as well as them. Maybe our sensors in the nose are worse, maybe our software running on that processing hardware is inferior. The end result ist: dogs do it better.

    1. Re:Blunt objection by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      "I don't know of any drug or bomb sniffing humans."
      Any cop with an attitude.

    2. Re:Blunt objection by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

      I personally know a at least two drug sniffing humans.

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    3. Re:Blunt objection by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1

      Even if the number of neurons or brain size is similar between humans and dogs, it seems to me that the physical proportions of a dog's nose could also make a big difference. I'm guessing that a good-sized dog must have an order of magnitude more nose volume than an average human. Maybe this optimizes the exposure of each nerve sensor to incoming scents.

    4. Re:Blunt objection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am intrigued by your theories and would like to sniff your newsletter.

    5. Re:Blunt objection by glenebob · · Score: 1

      But can they smell that smell?

    6. Re:Blunt objection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But can they smell that smell?

      Well, not since their nasal septum was sand blasted off...

    7. Re:Blunt objection by RuffMasterD · · Score: 1

      I know panty sniffing humans. Show me one dog that sniffs panties better than they do. Maybe we are just optimised for different smells.

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    8. Re:Blunt objection by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      I am wondering about the connections of the olfactory centers in the brain and how they relate to conscious processing and accessibility. Basically, when the impulses from olfactory sensation are percolating up from the nose and through the olfactory center of the brain how much of that information is then passed and accessible to the conscious part of the brain?

      Also, how many of those 1000 genes related to olfactory sensation are actually activated and involved in proteosynthesis in your average western culture arcology dweller? Compare that group to your average Amazon Basin dwelling individuals from a pristine society of hunters and gatherers and you have a PhD paper on your hands I'll wager.

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  5. urine by smallmj · · Score: 1

    If our sense of smell is so good, can we tell whose urine is whose by smelling it?

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    1. Re:urine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Noope. You'll need to drink it.

    2. Re: urine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can tell weed strains by smell.

      Dogs might not even know the difference.

    3. Re: urine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Self wetting fetishist here. I can definitely tell dog pee from my girlfriend's pee. I'll have to get back to you whether I can tell her pee from mine though.

    4. Re: urine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see that you have never witnesses two dogs meet.

  6. Yeah, no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In terms of absolute mass of brain dedicated to smell, yeah, maybe humans are the same as everything else. However, it's pretty well shown that dogs can distinguish individual scents massively better than humans. Their brain seems to divide the smells in to individual pieces whereas a human combines and b lends them all together. So a dog smells a specific bacteria, soap, cologne, and the each item in your lunch. Whereas a human just smells a college of mixed smells.

    1. Re: Yeah, no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know that that's factual, olfactory fatigue can eliminate the conscious detection of certain odors while still remaining aware of others. While generally speaking it is correct in the anatomical sense it's difficult to define whether our olfactory systems are as disimillar as previously though. What I imagine really happens is that our senses have a neurologically generated incongruence as a product of the necessary filtering mechanisms between our senses and conscious phenomenon, thus diminishing our sense of smell unless it's called for.

  7. Consider pregnant women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This research is more on the capability of our smell, not necessarily how well any individual person smells, AND it is more talking about the distinction of smells vs. the sensitivity. Dogs have a better physical setup for detecting minute smells, but that doesn't specify what smells they can smell and what they can distinguish. Anecdotally, pregnant women can smell better than most, and women seem to be more sensitive than men. This means factors other than our raw capacity to be able to smell are factors other than our physical capacity to smell.

    1. Re:Consider pregnant women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      disagree. Pregnant women are generally stank.

    2. Re:Consider pregnant women by glenebob · · Score: 2

      Which means they CAN smell better. GP is accurate.

  8. Drug dogs debunked. Doesn't pass the sniff test by raymorris · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Talking about the number of genes is a bit silly, agreed. If you want to compare the two, compare them directly. There are humans and dogs trained in smelling things (in the fragrance industry, for example). Run a direct comparison test. Also of course you could directly test having untrained humans and dogs smell for food and other items.

    DRUG dogs, specifically, have not fared well in blind in blind tests. While *some* dogs are probably quite good, in testing the typical police dog consistently "alerts" on wherever the handler thinks the drugs are. Tests have been done in which the drugs are in box #1, nothing is in box #2, and the police handler is *told* the drugs are in box #3. A police dog is more likely to alert on #3, where the cop thinks the drugs are, then box #1, where the drugs actually are.

    1. Re:Drug dogs debunked. Doesn't pass the sniff test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That’s not really an indictment of the dogs’ scenting ability, though, but on the training. The sense of smell is what makes it possible to train dogs to detect all these things; the training is what’s supposed to make the dog signal only when it picks up a given scent.

    2. Re:Drug dogs debunked. Doesn't pass the sniff test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They train them like that deliberately. A hunch does not qualify as reasonable cause. A dog indication does.

    3. Re:Drug dogs debunked. Doesn't pass the sniff test by maestroX · · Score: 1

      You're obviously wrong. If I fart, my dogs run out of the house!

  9. Other advantages by gurps_npc · · Score: 0

    It could be that dog's superior tracking is no related to the nose at all.
    For example:

    1) Closeness to the ground/source is esesntial, which is one of the reasons that dogs with shorter legs and/or long floppy ears to gather scents near the nose are better scent trackers than other dogs

    2) More nuerons biologically programmed to process the results of the nose. That is, it's not the genes for the nose, but the genes that focus the brain's growth on scent rather than sight.

    3) Training - most scent dogs have been heavily trained to track. It could be that humans with similar training would do much better - just as blind humans can learn sonar
     

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  10. Humans evolved by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    From sniffing arse to kissing ass.

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  11. Next: Elephants memory is not all that great. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
    Yeah, it could be true, elephants don't forget anything. But they don't have to remember much, so thats probably why they remember.

    You can count the neurons and talk about the absolute size of the olfactory bulb versus relative fraction of the brain volume/weight. But proof is in the pudding. We don't have famed Scotland yard detectives sniffing their way from the murder scene. But the bloodhounds do. Till I see a human who can smell the difference between his own pee and his rival's... we need to give the prize to the dogs.

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  12. I say, I say, I say by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

    My dog's got no nose

    How does he smell ?

    Just like you

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  13. so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mass pornography consumption leads to enhanced sense of smell

    could explain the increase number of sniffers and air freshener advertisements

  14. really? by Goldsmith · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've studied olfaction, and this just doesn't seem right. This olfactory bulb argument seems like a straw man that no one in the field has been using since... the 19th century. Digging in to the article a bit, it seems the authors of the actual study agree with me, and are using different odors for humans to balance out some of our... differences. Their main point (which is right) is that the human sense of smell is much better than most people realize, and that you can be trained to follow a scent trail, distinguish similar odors, and notice the cognitive effects scent has on you. Anyone who has experimentally studied olfaction for a few years will notice themselves gaining these abilities (it goes away quickly when you're not smelling things professionally several hours a day).

    So why is this summary so wrong?

    First off, humans only have 400 different olfactory receptors, it doesn't matter if genetics say you should have 1000, you only get 400 (genotype =/= phenotype). Second, you have less "sensor" surface area than other mammals in real terms, not scaled for size. Third, you lack the ability to concentrate scent molecules by varying your rate of breathing like other mammals (this can be overcome by varying breathing through your mouth and nose, but other mammals don't have to do this).

  15. I smell... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Bullshit.

  16. Wine snobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is all

  17. If dogs have such a refined sense of smell by Latent+Heat · · Score: 1

    then why do they plant their faces into piles of dung? Can't they just get a whiff of the leavings of other animals from a distance?

  18. Police dog taking the hint from its handler by Latent+Heat · · Score: 2

    That's not a bug but a feature?

    A police dog is smarter than an FBI Director?

  19. Sniffing the tires of the car? by Latent+Heat · · Score: 1

    When we would pull up to my brother-in-law's farm, his dog would intently sniff all four tires of our car. Was the dog forming a mental image of the trip over hundred's of miles of highway that took us there?

    1. Re: Sniffing the tires of the car? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good question. I often wonder what my dog thinks of my car. Does she think of it as a large animal? That would explain all the barking at them. But what about when we go for car rides? Does her mental model of "large animal" include the ability to ride inside of one?

      I love dogs, and I've been curious for years about how dogs view the world. I don't have any concrete answers but, for interested readers, Thomas Nagel's "What is it like to be a bat?" paper is a fascinating starting point.

    2. Re:Sniffing the tires of the car? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he was checking whether a big-ass dog that he didn't want to mess with had marked it before he took a piss all over your car.

      Captcha: uncouth

    3. Re: Sniffing the tires of the car? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I often wonder what my dog thinks of my car.

      Your dog wishes you'd stop anthropomorphizing her.

  20. is that wrong then? by no-body · · Score: 1

    A NOSE FOR ODORS
    What do dogs have that we don't? For one thing, they possess up to 300 million olfactory receptors in their noses, compared to about six million in us. And the part of a dog's brain that is devoted to analyzing smells is, proportionally speaking, 40 times greater than ours.

    from: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/n...

    A dog's nose sure is longer than a humans...

    If you look at a dog looking out of the window of a driving car - the activity is mainly smelling, seems to me dogs live in a world of smells rather visible objects.

    1. Re:is that wrong then? by whoever57 · · Score: 1

      A dog's nose sure is longer than a humans...

      It's also shaped so that air entering is not mixed with expelled air as much as a human's nose will do.

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  21. odor detection thresholds by ooloorie · · Score: 1

    The "sensitivity of the nose" is measured by odor detection thresholds.

    Here are some values for humans:

    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi...

    And here are some values for dogs:

    http://www.barksar.org/K-9_Det...

    As you can see, both dogs and humans can detect some chemicals at below one part per billion. So, it's hard to say conclusively that dogs have "more sensitive noses" than humans. Humans and dogs are probably just sensitive to different compounds because we use smell differently. So, humans can't track prey by smell, but humans may be better at detecting dangerous chemical compounds and pathogens, something dogs often seem oblivious to.

  22. Richard Feynman by LoyalOpposition · · Score: 1

    I recall reading a book authored by Richard Feynman where he recounted a party where he used that as a party trick. He had one of his guests lay an arm somewhere inside a book, and Feynman was able to smell which two pages the person lay his arm between.

    ~Loyal

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    1. Re:Richard Feynman by rew · · Score: 1

      Right!
      Besides the party trick, in the 1960'ies Feynman was aware of the discovery published now: Humans can (with a bit of training) smell almost as good as dogs.

    2. Re:Richard Feynman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The biggest factor is that human noses are much further from the ground.

  23. Empirical Evidence Says Otherwise by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 1

    While on our first rafting trip together on the Truckee River, my dog, a vizsla jumped out of the raft, cleared over 30' of water, ran up an embankment into some bushes and promptly returned with some old tennis ball that had been laying there -- that he clearly smelled from over 30' away and over moving water There is no way in hell our sense of smell rivals a dog with a nasal cavity larger than a pugs

    1. Re:Empirical Evidence Says Otherwise by rew · · Score: 1

      What Feynman realized (see comments above), is that it takes some practice to develop your sense of smell to the level that dogs are capable of. We have been trained to IGNORE most smells.

      I'm a bit over-sensitive to cigarette smoke. I had an intern a long time ago who smoked in the train coming to work. Back then my company was located inside my home. So one day I say: I smell him coming... I look out of the window... nobody there. Huh? I was wrong? So I look again, and there he is, turning into the street!

      Actually, there is another smell-related thing that most people do not realize. I was something like 4 years old when I performed the following science experiment: After some "number two", my mother remarked "Whoa, that smells foul!". I realized that I was socially programmed to affirm that as if I could confirm her statement, while in fact my brain was starting to program itself, "ok this is what's considered foul smell". I overruled the instinct and thought to myself, "smells nice, smells nice!".

      So.. To this day there is a specific toilet odor that I do not find unpleasant.

  24. Bullshit by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    "One scientific analysis is arguing that the human sense of smell has not only been underestimated over the years, but that it may rival that of dogs and rodents"

    Utter bullshit.

    If this was true they'd be using humans to sniff out drugs and bombs instead of dogs.

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    1. Re:Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Humans would need more pay, retirement, holiday, etc.

      Moreover, most dog sniffers don't actually smell anything when they "tell", they read what their handler is doing with body language. If the handler wants them to sniff out someone, their stance changes to anticipation when the dog gets near, therefore the dog will, to get the treat and affection they get when they "tag a suspect", tag that person to get thanked by their handler and fussed over.

      If dogs were so damn good, why are there so many false tells from them?

      Oh, and where have people bothered to train humans to be drug sniffer humans? Never. So how do you know that humans would be worse?Nobody ever tried, let alone actually done a study for false positives and false negatives between two equally trained groups of humans and dogs.

  25. when the aliens come by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They can enslave us and train us like hound dogs to sniff for contraband on the intragalactic trading ships. This is good news because otherwise we may not have much use to a more advanced conquering species. Maybe in 10,000 years they will release us from out bondage and the human race can carry on. Extinction of the species adverted!

  26. Smells like someone needed more grants by JoeyRox · · Score: 1

    I'll just go ahead and ship out this paper with a catchy headline and use the buzz for my next grant application.

  27. There is a flaw in this conclusion by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    If the human sense of smell were as sophisticated as Dr. McGann believes, then we would never be in doubt about who "dealt it".

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  28. Tigers cannot smell much either by aberglas · · Score: 3, Interesting

    According to Jim Corbet, 1930s Tiger hunter with a national park named after him (seriously -- he really understood wild tigers).

    In his book Corbet warned any readers that wish take up the sport of hunting tigers on foot through thick jungle that tigers do not realize that humans cannot smell. So if you are walking downwind you will be safe from an attack from behind. However, walking upwind can be extremely dangerous if there is a man eater nearby.

    Information that I am sure Slash Dot readers will find very useful.

    1. Re:Tigers cannot smell much either by jafiwam · · Score: 2

      According to Jim Corbet, 1930s Tiger hunter with a national park named after him (seriously -- he really understood wild tigers).

      In his book Corbet warned any readers that wish take up the sport of hunting tigers on foot through thick jungle that tigers do not realize that humans cannot smell. So if you are walking downwind you will be safe from an attack from behind. However, walking upwind can be extremely dangerous if there is a man eater nearby.

      Information that I am sure Slash Dot readers will find very useful.

      Domestic felines seem to need to be reminded of human inabilities frequently. My cat gets stepped on in the dark about once a year, not realizing she can't be seen in the middle of the floor. Once it's done, she gets up and moves when humans walk in the dark.

      The main difference I see between "smelling" and "incidental smelling" animals is a distinct two directions to nostrils so bi-directional smell can be done close to something that you don't necessarily want stirred up. (dust). Cold enough to "see breath" and dog and cat breath goes out the sides, not down the middle.

  29. Long-term training? [Re:Really?] by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    We aren't using humans to hunt for truffles.

    How about an experiment.

    On a serious note, maybe nobody has really tried it. Dogs instinctively rely on their noses. People may have to train and practice. Being upright, we kind of have to go out of our way to sniff the ground a lot. It would take athletic training and conditioning to bend often, or use a shoveling device. Is that cheating?

    A handful of deaf people have learned to use echo location to navigate by making clicking sounds. I tried it myself and indeed I got better over time, but not near as accurate as them. I found short "s" sounds more useful than clicks, more of a "ts, ts, ts...". I joke I accidentally discovered it while cussing: "shit! shit! shit!.....McAfee!"

    1. Re: Long-term training? [Re:Really?] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A handful of deaf people have learned to use echo location to navigate by making clicking sounds.

      You sure about that?

    2. Re:Long-term training? [Re:Really?] by narcc · · Score: 5, Funny

      A handful of deaf people have learned to use echo location to navigate by making clicking sounds.

      That would be very impressive, considering that hearing is seemingly essential to echo location. Still, I'm more than a little skeptical. I'll bet those fraudsters are really navigating by sight...

    3. Re: Long-term training? [Re:Really?] by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 0

      Yes, Daniel Kish for one.

      * https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
      * http://www.sciencemag.org/news...
      * https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      /sarcasm If only there was a place one could search for information ...

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    4. Re: Long-term training? [Re:Really?] by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      The article mentioned blind people.

    5. Re:Long-term training? [Re:Really?] by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I meant blind people. Slashdot is deaf to correction mode requests.

    6. Re: Long-term training? [Re:Really?] by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Daniel Kish was BORN blind.

    7. Re: Long-term training? [Re:Really?] by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      The OP (tablizer) mentioned deaf people, not blind people.

  30. Wet dogs smell worse by ShoulderOfOrion · · Score: 1

    Dry dogs smell OK to me, but wet dogs definitely smell worse than wet humans.

  31. Re: The nose knows. Oh noes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't track very well, but I smell pretty good compared to a my dog, especially after he rolls in poop in the back yard. Bad dog, buddy! Bad dog!

  32. Human nose can detect 1 trillion odours by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

    http://www.nature.com/news/hum...

    A human nose has around 400 types of scent receptors. When the smell of coffee wafts through a room, for example, specific receptors in the nose detect molecular components of the odour, eliciting a series of neural responses that draw oneâ(TM)s attention to the coffee pot. But many details of that sequence are still unknown.

    âoeThe relationship between the number of odorants that we can discriminate and the number of receptors that we have is unclear,â says Noam Sobel, a neuroscientist at the Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot, Israel. Some scientists assume that having more types of scent receptors indicates a more-sensitive sniffer.

    2004 study

    http://journals.plos.org/plosb...

    However, some recent behavioral studies suggest that primates, including humans, have relatively good senses of smell. Resolution of this paradox may come from a larger perspective on the biology of smell. Here we begin by reassessing several overlooked factors: the structure of the nasal cavity, retronasal smell, olfactory brain areas, and language. In these arenas, humans may have advantages which outweigh their lower numbers of receptors. It appears that in the olfactory system, olfactory receptor genes do not map directly onto behavior; rather, behavior is the outcome of multiple factors. If human smell perception is better than we thought, it may have played a more important role in human evolution than is usually acknowledged.

    Comparing the data on smell detection thresholds shows that humans not only perform as well or better than other primates, they also perform as well or better than other mammals. When tested for thresholds to the odors of a series of straight-chain (aliphatic) aldehydes, dogs do better on the short chain compounds, but humans perform as well or slightly better than dogs on the longer chain compounds, and humans perform significantly better than rats (Laska et al. 2000). Similar results have been obtained with other types of odors.

    A third type of study demonstrating human olfactory abilities shows that in tests of odor detection, humans outperform the most sensitive measuring instruments such as the gas chromatograph.

    2006 study
    http://www.sciencemag.org/news...

    A surprising new study suggests that people can track a scent across a grassy field--at least if they're willing to get down on their hands and knees and put their noses to the ground. The findings are unlikely to put hunting hounds and drug sniffing dogs out of work, but they may earn a little respect for the poorly regarded human sense of smell.

    Humans are widely believed to be poor at tracking scents, especially when compared to other mammals such as dogs and rodents. But few had ever put that idea to the test. A research team led by Jess Porter and Noam Sobel at the University of California, Berkeley, dipped 10 meters of twine in chocolate essence and laid it in a field to form two straight lines connected at a 135Â angle. Then they blindfolded 32 undergraduate students and had them don earmuffs, thick gloves and kneepads to prevent them from using sensory cues other than smell. When set loose in the field, two-thirds of the subjects successfully followed the scent, zigzagging back and forth across the path like a dog tracking a pheasant, the researchers report online 17 December in Nature Neuroscience.

    Nearly all the subjects reported that the task was challenging, Porter says, but four of them got a chance to improve with practice. Over the course of several days, they learned to follow the trail faster and deviate less. Even so, their performance remained well below what other researchers have reported in dogs.

    And this ignores the not uncommon case of people who have more sensitive sense of smell than average.

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  33. Hate these fucking stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hate these fucking stories so much.

    No, people can't smell as well as dogs. Just hang out with a dog sometimes. They are way better at smelling odors on the wind, vastly better at smelling shit on the ground, clearly intinsically motivated by smell, etc.

    Do a study where you actually have them compete, not just check out genes and brain shit.

  34. a language of scent is required by swell · · Score: 1

    The problem with humans and scent is that we have no standards to describe what we smell. Compared to sight, for instance, where children learn the names of popular colors. Consider that the ancient Greeks had only a handful of colors available, for the simple reason that there were no names for the rest of the spectrum. Our dependence on language means that a thing without a name does not exist.

    If children were given standardized samples of each scent they are likely to encounter, along with a name for each one, their lives would be enriched forever. Who knows, symphonies of scent might evolve.

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  35. In theory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In theory but what is it in practice.

  36. Humans smell... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just as much as dogs!

    Phew

  37. Evolution, stupid! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dogs' and pigs' senses of smell evolved for their own purpose: finding food.
    Humans' senses of smell evolved for THEIR own purposes: finding sex.

    Human bloodhounds are just likely to find the foxiest lady.

  38. I call bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can throw a tennis ball 50 yards down range in my back yard, and it can land in the midst of 50 other tennis balls, and my dog will go sniff around and pick out the one I just threw from among all of them - every single time. My scent is strongest on the one I just threw, and he can pick it out every time.

    There's no way I could pick out which tree he just pissed on, of all the ones he has recently pissed on, just from the smell.

  39. John McGann, Idiot by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    Simple field test. Take a large cloth object used by a person. Person walks to a point, unknown to anyone, about a mile away. Tear the cloth in half, approximately. Give one to a human, let the other be sniffed by a blood hound. Wait to see which one finds the human first, using only the cloth sample. The House will favor the dog.

  40. Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone who has read 'Surely, You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!' would know that he was in fact not joking about his characteristically playful yet rigorous smelling experiments.