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A Tip for Apple in China: Your Hunger for Revenue May Cost You (wsj.com)
Li Yuan, writing for the WSJ: Apple's latest predicament centers on its App Store. Last month, Apple told several Chinese social-networking apps, including the wildly popular messaging platform WeChat, to disable their "tip" functions to comply with App Store rules (Editor's note: the link could be paywalled; alternative source), according to executives at WeChat and other companies. That function allows users to send authors and other content creators tips, from a few yuan to hundreds, via transfers from mobile-wallet accounts. Those transfers are offered by the social-networking apps free of charge, as a way to inspire user engagement. Now, those tips will be considered in-app purchases, just like buying games, music and videos, entitling Apple to a 30% cut. For Apple, which has been observing slowing growth in mature markets, China is increasingly becoming important. But the company's my way or high-way approach might hurt the company's image in China. And that image as well as fortunes of local companies, is what the Chinese authorities deeply care about. As Yuan adds, "while it's understandable that Apple wants to tap the App Store for more money, its pressure on the app platforms risks alienating powerful Chinese companies, turning off Chinese iPhone users and drawing unnecessary attention from the regulators." Executives of these IM messaging apps tell WSJ that Apple has threatened that it would kick their apps out of the App Store if they don't comply. The problem is, WeChat is way more popular in China than Apple -- or its iPhones or its services or both combined, analysts say. WeChat is insanely popular in China, and people love to use the app to pay for things they purchase and send money to friends. Apple's greed could end up resulting in millions of new Android users, analysts said.
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The number of companies that bow to pressure to enter the Chinese and Indian markets because of volume, is precisely the same as the number of companies who have declining margins and increasing obsolescence and who get their asses kicked by companies local to (mostly) China. Yes, there are many persons in those country, but they are not rich and they are not good for high margin, premium products. At the same time, I do not know of any company who can simultaneously feed the premium product and the value product efficiently: they either sacrifice one for the other creating mediocrity, or else function as two companies in both technology and business (marketing, sales).
These markets should be avoided at all costs, once you let them in the door they will bleed you dry. If Apple wants to enter China as a value product line, they need to bifurcate and create a lower end product line with a unique brand. Wealthy Chinese will continue to prefer Apple because they know better, whereas the masses, whom Wall St. interests want to cater to, want it but will by the fake Apple brand (Fapple?) if it can deliver superior value to evil bastards like Huawei.
Under no circumstances should any concessions be made for Huawei or products like what they offer. Like Microsoft they are a company that needs to stop existing, be chopped into many pieces and buried at equidistant locations on the earth, no less than 1 mile below the surface with eternally vigilant hell hounds guarding all exits, lest they break free and condemn us all to an eternity of hellfire.
App stores are not allowed to take a cut from in-app purchases.
Apple announces our smoothest baby disposal product yet: Meet iNfanticide.
Have you had yet another disappointing female child? iNfanticide will using Apple's cutting edge maps application to find you the nearest river. Tired of chucking your daughters in the water yourself? Our app ecosystem has dozens of applications from vendors looking to partner with you to hide your shame. Apple customers have saved over 5 billion CNY in dowry alone.
I'm also pleased to announce that iNfanticide comes with a copy of U2's latest single, completely free of charge!
That's a great idea! Also you should use my free app! It's great and lets you create an account and a profile; and if you send me a $19.99 tip (through the app), you can even use a bunch of special content features as a thank-you!
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"Nothing our 280 Billion $ in the bank can't handle. Here, check out our new iPhone ..."
And everybody: "Oooooh, shiny!"
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
Apples image is suffering!
Let's run out and bury ourselves in the hills!
Wechat is popular in China because that's all they've got. Their access to most other social and communication platforms (bot US and other Asian like LINE, for example) is blocked. So, of course Wechat is "more popular" - it runs on all phones in China, Android and iOS.
Making any conclusions based on that, and in particular deriving the "Chinese love Wechat" from these numbers, would be a mistake.
There is no new lesson here. If you become Too Big, then nobody, not the US government, not the Chinese government, and not even Apple Inc, can dare to kill you, because whoever try would create huge trouble and mess for themselves. In fact, those other entities would have to come rescue you in case you are in trouble -- check out the banks circa 2008.
That's why everybody want to be too big to fail.
I've never used WeChat, but it should roll out an app update today where the "tip" function opens a dialog box to tie a default Android device to the user's account. If the user doesn't have one, it should open a web page on promoted Android tablets and handsets. After the tie, the "tip" function completes from Android.
Essentially the way the chinese are using the apps is as an electronic wallet. Only an idiot would use a wallet that tries to take 30% of each transaction. The chinese are using it to avoid transaction fees altogether. Apple charging anything on this service is going to kill the use of it on the iphone stone dead.
They honestly haven't a clue how this works, this is an alternative to paper money not some kind of game. They might use it to buy a coffee the next $10,000 of components in one of the electronics markets.
It honestly seems like apple hasn't a clue here.
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Apps!
If you don't get it
try this youtube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
rather ironically it's about a guy trying to build his own iPhone 6S 16GB entirely from parts bought in the public cell phone parts markets in Huaqiangbei.
If you ignore that aspect you will see how the market vendors are doing deals and transferring money using these apps instead of cash.
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It's the opposite. They have a clue and don't care. Apple is the 800 pound gorilla, not WeChat. They want you to use Apple Pay, not WeChatPay. They are perfectly fine with people buying Android if that's their issue. They are willing to see how it pans out.
that is all.
Bullshit apple is just being a jackass as usual. Wechat has 1 billion accounts and 850 million monthly users. China sure isnt going to stop using wechat for apples sake. Love to see all the apple users move to Android. apple already has a low market share in China.
The App Store is a desert, sadly, and Apple has given it no love for years. It's still a horrible tool to find apps and its search is pathetic. Xcode is a straight jacket and Swift keeps changing all the time. The two apps I wrote (one on iOS and the other for macOS) will be my last that get submitted to the App Store. Developers are voting with their feet and choosing not to distribute things via the App Store any more. My next phone is going to be an Android anyway because iOS and the iPhone are bitches.