Slashdot Mirror


Linux Distros Won't Run On Microsoft's Education-Focused Windows 10 S OS (betanews.com)

Reader BrianFagioli writes: I was sort of hopeful for Windows 10 S when Microsoft made a shocking announcement at Build 2017 that it is bringing Linux distributions to the Windows Store. This gave the impression that students using the S variant of the OS would be able to tinker with Linux. Unfortunately, this is not the case as Microsoft will be blocking Linux on the new OS. In other words, not all apps in the store will be available for Windows 10 S. "Windows 10 S does not run command-line applications, nor the Windows Console, Cmd / PowerShell, or Linux/Bash/WSL instances since command-line apps run outside the safe environment that protects Windows 10 S from malicious / misbehaving software," says Rich Turner, Senior Product Manager, Microsoft. Tuner further explains, "Linux distro store packages are an exotic type of app package that are published to the Windows Store by known partners. Users find and install distros , safely, quickly, and reliably via the Windows Store app. Once installed, however, distros should be treated as command-line tools that run outside the UWP sandbox and secure runtime infrastructure. They run with the capabilities granted to the local user -- in the same way as Cmd and PowerShell do. This is why Linux distros don't run on Windows 10 S: Even though they're delivered via the Windows Store, and installed as standard UWP APPX's, they run as non-UWP command-line tools and this can access more of a system than a UWP can."

6 of 115 comments (clear)

  1. as a workaround by nimbius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    to this unfortunate problem...you can also just install linux. Believe it or not, you dont need Windows to run it.

    --
    Good people go to bed earlier.
    1. Re:as a workaround by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ... or why buying boot-locked (indeed, any DRM'ed) product is a BAD IDEA (tm).

      --
      ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI!?
    2. Re:as a workaround by green1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Everyone already buys bootlocked phones, this is simply the next logical step.

      We just discussed this in an article on Netflix not loading on rooted Androids, and when I suggested that it was only a matter of time before the same became true for computers I was told there's no way that would ever fly. But the thing is, it will. It won't be long before locked bootloaders and walled gardens are the norm for the PC world just as they are for phones. Probably only a few more years before it becomes extremely difficult to buy a computer that isn't locked down, and shortly thereafter, even if your computer is still unaffected, you'll stop being able to use it for anything involving media watching, banking, or even games. This is already happening on phones, it will happen on computer too.

    3. Re: as a workaround by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In fact you CAN'T use Windows to run it. They are trying to confuse people and doing a great job at it. Don't help them. BASH isn't Linux. The various CLI tools aren't Linux. Now we have a whole lot of people thinking they have Linux who have never seen Linux and never will because they think they already have it. This is Microsoft's end game. It has always been their modus operandi. Foster the ignorance and prey upon it. If you run Windows, and you aren't running virtualization software and installing a complete Linux distribution, you aren't running Linux. Don't fall for the trap. The cake is a lie.

      --
      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
  2. Re:Once Again by green1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just wait. Soon running Linux will be as convenient as running rooted Android, sure, you CAN do it, but you'll have to give up the ability to watch any (legal) media, or do any online financial transactions, etc.

    Computers are going the way of smartphones, completely locked down, and even if you break the lock, you'll lose the ability to do half the things you want to do on a daily basis.

  3. Re:Windows S O S by farble1670 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Everyone who claims Linux isn't the alternative either:

    Everyone who claims Linux is an alternative doesn't use their PC for gaming. Or, is part of the extremely tiny minority of gamers that is happy with the limited subset of games run on Linux.

    See what I did there?