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Is Russia Conducting A Social Media War On America? (time.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Time magazine ran a cover story about "a dangerous new route for antidemocratic forces" -- social media. "Using these technologies, it is possible to undermine democratic government, and it's becoming easier every day," says Rand Waltzman of the Rand Corp., who ran a major Pentagon research program to understand the propaganda threats posed by social media technology." The article cites current and former FBI and CIA officials who now believe Russia's phishing emails against politicians were "just the most visible battle in an ongoing information war against global democracy." They cite, for example, a March report by U.S. counterintelligence which found "Russians had sent expertly tailored messages carrying malware to more than 10,000 Twitter users in the Defense Department." Each message contained links tailored to the interests of the recipient, but "When clicked, the links took users to a Russian-controlled server that downloaded a program allowing Moscow's hackers to take control of the victim's phone or computer -- and Twitter account...

"In 2016, Russia had used thousands of covert human agents and robot computer programs to spread disinformation referencing the stolen campaign emails of Hillary Clinton, amplifying their effect. Now counterintelligence officials wondered: What chaos could Moscow unleash with thousands of Twitter handles that spoke in real time with the authority of the armed forces of the United States?" The article also notes how algorithms now can identify hot-button issues and people susceptible to suggestion, so "Propagandists can then manually craft messages to influence them, deploying covert provocateurs, either humans or automated computer programs known as bots, in hopes of altering their behavior. That is what Moscow is doing, more than a dozen senior intelligence officials and others investigating Russia's influence operations tell Time."

The article describes a Russian soldier in the Ukraine pretending to be a 42-year-old American housewife. Meanwhile, this week Time's cover shows America's White House halfway-covered with Kremlin-esque spires -- drawing a complaint from the humorists at Mad magazine, who say Time copied the cover of Mad's December issue.

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  1. The media is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If anyone is conducting a (metaphorical) war on America, it's the news media. How many hyped up bullshit stories is it going to take before news media consumers realize it's 95% storytelling and 5% actual events?

    1. Re:The media is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Seriously people. Stop treating government as a sporting contest where you cheer for your team to crush the other team.

      The government is the police and the military. They arrest and imprison people. They carry out drone strikes and bombings. They ruin people's lives. They take ~25% of everything everyone produces every year.

      It's not a game. It's not a TV show. It's not a comedy. And it's not about you feeling good about yourself -- you're not a storybook hero. It's a grownup thing. Time to start thinking and acting like grownups.

    2. Re:The media is by StevenMaurer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's not a war on America. That's what America wants.

      Media outlets live and die by ratings. They've tried appealing to people's logic before. Audiences tune it out.

      Actually, this is a general metaphor for most of the modern world. Big bad "corporations" get blamed for the general preferences and assholishness of the general public. Want to know why all food is such cheap shit? McDs tries to sell salads, but nobody buys. Want to know why all the characters in horror movies are so stupid, and hit TV shows make fun of nerds? Most of the audience is stupider than a bag of rocks.

      And politically -- and this also applies to intelligent people as well -- nobody wants information. All they want is validation. So that's what modern day media provides them. They have to, in this competitive landscape. The days of the big three forcing people to watch southerners brutalizing blacks because there was literally nothing else on TV, is long gone. They'll just switch to FOX, where no one even knows that Trump is in hock up to his eyeballs to Putin-connected billionaires.

  2. Disinformation of Hillary Clinton? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    My understanding is that most of the emails were in fact true. The DNC never claimed the emails were false, just complaining that their dirty laundry got out for everyone to see.

  3. Re:Hype is hype by acrimonious+howard · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think we've known for a while that various governments pay people to enter forums and post messages trying control the narrative.

    I haven't heard of any other nation coming close to the scale of Russia:

    "Russia's information war might be thought of as the biggest trolling operation in history,"

    There is a paragraph about phishing that largely is quoted in the summary. The article doesn't make clear whether these are phishing attacks from the Russian government, or just from Russia.

    Uh, yes, TFA does say it came straight from Russian soldiers:

    In one case last year, senior intelligence officials tell TIME, a Russian soldier based in Ukraine successfully infiltrated a U.S. social media group by pretending to be a 42-year-old American housewife and weighing in on political debates with specially tailored messages.

    Overall, the article is an example of the breathless hyperbole that fills every news article these days.

    Heh TFA says "the Russians would consider it a success if you questioned the truth of your news sources". Hrm.

  4. Consensus government by DrYak · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Stop treating government as a sporting contest where you cheer for your team to crush the other team.

    Some countries like Switzerland have not a single head of executive, but a council of 7 people.

    It the same was practiced in your country, that would lead to totally different campaigns.
    It would be very difficult for the candidate of one or the other of your bipartite system, to spend time arguing that the other is "an incompetent idiot", because with such system, they are guaranteed to then later have to work together reaching a consensus.

    Hard to crush a team, when all the team *must in practice* work together.

    The only big suspense would be who out of the minor parties are going to get the last of the coucil seats.

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    "Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
    1. Re:Consensus government by gweihir · · Score: 5, Informative

      Switzerland has a GDP of around $650B. There are only 6 _states_ in the US that have more and only 3 states have more than double that. Now, I did not fund a list of US GDP by country, but unless, for example, California manages to have about 25% of its total GDP in only one county, your numbers are complete bullshit.

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      Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
  5. There is no Trumpism without Putinism. by Pentomino · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been noticing since the election how odd it is that whenever I meet a Trump supporter, or a Hillary hater, If I bring up Russia, their nationalistic sense of American sovereignty will completely evaporate. To a person, they deflect concern about Russian hacking or Putin's oligarchy with such skill as if they've attended an 8-week media training course. They'll claim the Russians did us a favor by exposing Democratic corruption, and even shed a tear for the plight of the Russian people suffering under Obama's sanctions.

    When I meet someone who says they "don't support Trump" but somehow only attacks liberals, I can just imagine the Facebook group that got their hooks in them. I keep seeing groups for political causes that used to have their own identities, but now only post pro-Trump or anti-liberal messages. "Being Libertarian" had a perfect example – libertarianism is diametrically opposed from authoritarianism, and yet it showed up in my feed because a friend of mine clicked "Like" on a picture of a parody of that one poem. It said "They came for the socialists, and I said nothing. Then everything was better and they stopped coming for people." Thousands of likes, each one from someone who labels themselves "libertarian" but totally signed off on the rounding-up of their political enemies, and declared their trust that strongman authority only takes away rights temporarily.

    And that's what is worrying, because even if Trump gets impeached, the national psyche is already gravely wounded, and the Kremlin has a fresh truckload of salt for us every day to stop it from healing.