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At Google, an Employee-Run Email List Tracks Harassment and Bias Complaints (bloomberg.com)

A group of Google employees have begun a message board for employees to submit worker complaints that's then emailed weekly as a digest, according to a report on Bloomberg. The email list -- called "Yes, at Google" -- has been around since October and allows employees to talk openly about work situations in which they felt uncomfortable; most submissions are anonymized. From the article: Google management is aware of the list. "We work really hard to promote and preserve a culture of respect and inclusion," a Google spokesperson said in a statement. "Our employees have numerous ways to raise issues -- both negative and positive -- with us, including through grassroots transparency efforts like this one. We take concerns seriously and take appropriate measures to address them." The list is run by a group of workers across different product areas, according to a person familiar with the list, though it's not clear who runs the list and how or whether the submissions are vetted before being distributed. Usually, the people in the complaints are not named, though one submission described an instance when, during a large company meeting in late April, Alphabet Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt allegedly interrupted Chief Financial Officer Ruth Porat when she had a question addressed to her, which the post categorized as a "gender-related" complaint. A person who attended the meeting said Schmidt answered the question to make a joke. Messages sometimes include job titles and other details.

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  1. I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This is a trap, they just want to fire people that try to report rape.

    1. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Interesting
      It seems too many people these days see shaming and the system against them at every corner....

      I would guess that MOST of the complaints are of the "Seriously?" type as listed in the article:

      though one submission described an instance when, during a large company meeting in late April, Alphabet Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt allegedly interrupted Chief Financial Officer Ruth Porat when she had a question addressed to her, which the post categorized as a "gender-related" complaint. A person who attended the meeting said Schmidt answered the question to make a joke.

      I mean really....there *are* real instances of harassment out there, but you have so many people seeing and reporting crap that just isn't worth it and not a real problem and it muddies the water for seeing the few *real* incidents that happen out there, are serious and need to be addressed.

      Is this the snowflakes entering the real world, finding out everyone doesn't get a trophy, doesn't have to give a shit about their 'self esteem', only expecting you to get your job done and do what your told and on time.....and seeing and reporting crap that no one in past generations saw as a problem but just the way life is....?

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    2. Re: I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sure did! And now I will rape once more! Muahahah!

    3. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would not be at all surprising. Rape and subsequent denials happen regularly. It's a big bad felony and the guy who did it needs to be in prison. Hopefully, you got access to a so-called "rape kit" to store the evidence afterwards. However, unfortunately, most police have a whole room full of them that haven't been processed. The DNA testing is expensive. If they don't have other leads they won't follow up.

      Personally, being a male non-rapist, I hope every one of them is caught and hung at the nearest lamp post. Gimme the rope. I'll be happy to knot them up and do the dirty work. Violence against women is probably one reason why they are so cautious and scared to meet new men (like me). They are terrified because either they or a friend has been raped and found out that the system doesn't work very well.

    4. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by oakgrove · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If being interrupted by the opposite sex is a "gender-related" thing by now then I should top the charts of oppression and my wife has a lot of 'splainin to do.

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    5. Re: I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      slashdot is obligated to remove the parent post

    6. Re: I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You won't get away with this! You rape me, you laugh, and then you try to hide my post! You monster!!!

    7. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Of course they know the joke incident was nothing, this is not what it's about. This list is essentially a back channel for the usual grievance mongers to organize themselves and exert pressure on management.

      The "document everything" mentality has the dual purpose of legitimizing the list existing and to provide a shit ton of ammunition when they don't get their way. Most of the accused will be completely unable to defend themselves as they will have no recollection of some offhand comment made in an informal chat 18 months ago.

      Expect a "harassment task-force" to be shoehorned into the upper management structure in the next 12 months, replete with cushie, highly paid positions occupied almost exclusively by women, and a lavish budget to hire in outside "diversity consultants" who just so happened to go to the same college.

    8. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 0

      Studies have shown that men interrupt women more than vice versa. So it is a real thing.

    9. Re: I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rape me once, shame on you, rape me twice, uh, we won' t get raped again.

    10. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by zm · · Score: 1, Funny

      Studies have shown that men interrupt women more than vice versa. So it is a real thing.

      Well, duh. The men make a point and then stop talking, so they do not need to be interrupted.

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    11. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Studies have shown that men interrupt women more than vice versa. So it is a real thing.

      So what were the women saying, what was the context? More men are in prison by close to a 10:1 margin than women. Men also take more risks and die sooner. What you lefties don't comprehend is that men and women are different so the instances of particular behaviors are bound to be different. No amount of shaming men to try to make them more like women is going to change that nor should it.

    12. Re: I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BeauHD, the reason they run from you is because you're hideously ugly. So you have two options. One, pretend you're gay so they will at least feel comfortable around you and then sneak up and rape 'em. Or two, go to college, get a degree, graduate, get a job, get your credit score up, and buy a McMansion, some fast cars, etc. because women find that a lot more attractive than physical beauty.

    13. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I hope every one of them is caught and hung at the nearest lamp post. Gimme the rope.

      Be careful what you wish for. Harsh punishments for rape are correlated with very high acquittal rates and a cultural of impunity. Society's "ideal" of rape is a pure innocent blonde virgin minding her own business when some total stranger grabs her and drags her into the bushes. Very few real rapes are anything like that, but the more the actual situation diverges from the "ideal", the less likely the women is to be believed or even take seriously. Very few juries are likely to put a seemingly nice guy in prison for 20 years because of a "he-said-she-said" accusation of date rape.

    14. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No amount of shaming men to try to make them more like women is going to change that

      Not true. I first heard of the interruption difference years ago when I read this book. Once I was attuned to it, I noticed it happening in meetings, and I noticed that I did it myself. So I try to interrupt less, and if someone else interrupts a woman during a meeting, I often later ask her to finish her point. So at least in my case, it made a difference.

    15. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      at least in my case, it made a difference

      So you are arguing generally from a marginal case and you think you know what you're talking about. You're speaking foolishness right now.

    16. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Jzanu · · Score: 1

      No, Bill is commenting that based on experience an individual can choose to change their ingrained behaviors to improve outcomes. In business communications is what drives intelligent reaction to the ever changing competitive environment. You lose that edge at your own peril as competitors will quickly overtake you. When individuals pursue self-improvement it also has benefits throughout their personal lives as well - just ask marriage counselors.

    17. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Jzanu · · Score: 1, Interesting

      You need to learn more. This isn't a marginal case, which is a very specific concept, it is an example of what is possible and one which is readily observed in every context imaginable. To think otherwise means you are young or stupid, and probably both.

    18. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice!

    19. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by swillden · · Score: 1, Interesting

      If being interrupted by the opposite sex is a "gender-related" thing by now then I should top the charts of oppression and my wife has a lot of 'splainin to do.

      The problem wasn't the interruption so much as the context. Porat was asked a question that was about a gender-related complaint and Schmidt apparently stopped the complaint from being discussed and turned it into a joke. Depending on the nature of the complaint, that could be really hurtful to the person who'd screwed up their courage enough to ask such a question in front of the whole company (I'm assuming the "large company meeeting" was the weekly whole-company TGIF).

      Note that although I work for Google, and occasionally read "Yes, at Google", I haven't read anything about the described scenario other than what's in the summary here. I don't know the context, or even if it really happened. I'm just commenting on the hypothetical.

      I'll add that I think the mailing list is awesome. Its purpose isn't to chastise anyone, or tell management about problems... those are HR functions and shouldn't be handled through an open mailing list. Its purpose is simply to raise awareness of the fact that sometimes really bad things happen at Google. Google is an open, friendly, egalitarian place and it's tempting for people to think that sexual harrasment, racial discrimination, etc., couldn't happen at Google. The mailing list shows otherwise and serves to help people learn to notice it. It also serves to raise awareness of the small ways in which people make their co-workers uncomfortable, often without even realizing it. It exposes people to different viewpoints and broadens their outlook.

      The mailing list is a good thing. You should start one at your workplace.

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    20. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Studies have shown that men interrupt women more than vice versa. So it is a real thing.

      How else are men going to get to say anything? Wait for the woman to stop talking??

      <ducks for cover>

    21. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Porat was asked a question that was about a gender-related complaint and Schmidt apparently stopped the complaint from being discussed

      Yeah, I mean Gods forbid Eric Schmidt the goddamned chairman of the fucking board have the temerity to open his mouth to lead the discussion when an exalted womyn is dropping her pearls of wisdom before the ungrateful swine.

      I mean...the nerve.

    22. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      chairman of the fucking board

      *executive chairman but you get the point.

      Oh and have fun breeding resentment with your little mailing list of mostly unsubstantiated bullshit. Baidu is salivating at this. They will eventually take your marketshare, your jobs, and your money. Bet on it.

    23. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This. It's not about shaming as some people seem to think, it's about awareness.

      Stop taking it personally. When I see a sign saying "don't drop litter", I don't feel the need to scrawl "not all people!" or "fuck you litter nazi" under it.

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    24. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by swillden · · Score: 0

      Porat was asked a question that was about a gender-related complaint and Schmidt apparently stopped the complaint from being discussed

      Yeah, I mean Gods forbid Eric Schmidt the goddamned chairman of the fucking board have the temerity to open his mouth to lead the discussion when an exalted womyn is dropping her pearls of wisdom before the ungrateful swine.

      I mean...the nerve.

      Yeah, how dare she expect that she should feel comfortable at work.

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    25. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check the first link which explains what "marginal case" is in general, and why your previous attempts to appear intelligent have failed so badly.

      Wow, everybody knows what marginal case is. Thanks for exposing your vacuity though in the sense of "Hurr durr, looks like you used an analogy that I can nitpick, guess that means I don't have to face up to your actual arguments and can claim victory on a technicality. Hurr durr." That places you somewhere in the bottom 2 or 3 here.

      Don't be a moran.

    26. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, how dare she expect that she should feel comfortable at work.

      Nice strawman. At no point did I comment on whether someone should feel or not feel "comfortable" at work. But have fun arguing with the boogeyman in your head as I'm sure that's a lot more, um, comfortable than any pathetic attempts you could make at refuting what I actually say.

    27. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      faggot

    28. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unsurprisingly, you led with..

      This.

      Please find the nearest rope and Cornell yourself.

    29. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by swillden · · Score: 1

      Assuming you're the AC above, after your initial response you have zero right to expect any sort of reasoned discussion. And I have fed you far more than I should.

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    30. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      Some folks with H1B visas consider the handling of women to be the women's fault. Sounds gross, but hay; it's their culture and it works for them?

    31. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, good? We shouldn't be putting anyone in prison on the word of one other person, unless we can corroborate their statements with evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.

      I know that standard makes some crimes really hard to prove, but the alternative is innocent people in prison. With a crime with a much-deserved stigma associated with it just investigated has serious consequences; being charged is enough to destroy most people's lives even if they are subsequently acquitted.

      I really wish that everyone who came forward got an immediate, compassionate and thorough investigation, but that investigations weren't made public unless they found compelling evidence, and that provably-false accusations carried the same penalty as the crime. The system as it is fails almost everyone.

    32. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I first heard about that in communications class in college. Later I realized that the textbook attributed negative value judgements only to qualities it asserted are typical for men. Even later I realized that such value judgements are at best baseless and at worst attempts to brainwash people via anchoring. If the same reasoning was applied to women's characteristic traits it would be immediately labeled as "sexist trope" or somesuch. Seriously, who decides that interruptions are always bad? What if they make communication more efficient and keep people from derailing discussions? Also, why should it matter if the person being interrupted is a man or a woman?

    33. Re: I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm being raped by Eric Schmidt right now.

    34. Re: I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's ALL about shaming and creating a hostile workplace for men. You know it, I know it, and everybody else here knows it. #baizou

    35. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well it is about shaming when you want people to feel bad about it.

    36. Re: I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not the... Aggressive AC that's been posting here.

      But seriously? It sucks but evidence is pretty important for a serious crime.

      Which is a good reason for them not to cost anything for a victim and that varies by state and county...

      Not 100% on how Federal agencies do it.

      But as another male non-rapist here I am glad I won't be going to prison just because someone said so.

    37. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very few juries are likely to put a seemingly nice guy in prison for 20 years because of a "he-said-she-said" accusation of date rape.

      And you think these juries should indeed put a seemingly nice guy away for 20 years based on accusation of date rape? Damn. That would be a scary world to live in. Always at the mercy of women who could put you away for whatever reason they can self-rationalize.

    38. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How much do men interrupt men?

    39. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awwwww, did someone offend the widdle snowflake?

    40. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From Amazon:

      An instant classic, Talking From 9 to 5 brilliantly explains women's and men's conversational rituals--and the language barriers we unintentionally erect in the business world.

      Heh heh, 'erect'.

    41. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be a moran.

      Why not?

    42. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Very few juries are likely to put a seemingly nice guy in prison for 20 years because of a "he-said-she-said" accusation of date rape.

      You want people to be put away on the basis of unsubstantiated accusation alone? If there's evidence it's not "he-said-she-said", after all.

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    43. Re:I reported my rape and got fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol, what a moron. kbye

  2. gender-related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    >gender-related

    1. Re:gender-related by aicrules · · Score: 0

      Because they both have genders, it must be gender-related!

    2. Re:gender-related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>gender-related

  3. It sounds awful. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd rather be unemployed than work with people who have nothing better to do than either harass others or keep tabs on harassment. I mean, really, just fuck off, all of you!

  4. Biases are misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember, bias in metrics of job performance are a function of reviewer bias and the quality of work from the person being reviewed. Clearly the bias is mostly due to quotas resulting in most of the female programmers and engineers being less qualified than their male counterparts. This is intuitive and no further evidence of this is required.

  5. And? by caferace · · Score: 1

    ref: B.A ... R.B.A. (obscure references, it was the mid/late 90's)

  6. Also know as a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mob-justice.

    1. Re:Also know as a by x0ra · · Score: 1

      or "what every communist society evolves into"

  7. The bigger, the more problems. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not surprised.

    Companies can have all the friendly, inclusive policies they want - but the problem is that people have to follow them. Larger companies have more people, and the odds of having a sociopath or other ethics-adverse person in a management role increases.

    If you have a manager who wants to discriminate against you - they will. Smarter people will find ways to squeak under/within the rules. Sociopaths have the added skill of patience. It may take a year to screw you over, but they will put in the effort.

    From my unpleasant experience, the only proper way to handle harassment and discrimination is to leave. HR is there to protect the company from lawsuits. That's it. My harassment got markedly worse after contacting HR. Boss & his boss had the nerve to tell me "you should never have contacted HR." A lawyer told me I had a good case, but would take 2+ years and limited payout. Best bet was to get a new job.

  8. Yet another social justice story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Yet another social justice story. Slashdot is being reduce to a propaganda machine for totalitarian leftists, churning out non-story after non-story to suit SJWs.

    Have fun cratering your investment the same way DC comics cratered theirs.

    Hint to the mono-maniacs whose lives have been reduced to a hamster wheel of rightthink- everyone hates you for a reason.

    1. Re:Yet another social justice story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not really into comic books, can you explain the relation to DC comics?

    2. Re:Yet another social justice story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm not really into comic books, can you explain the relation to DC comics?

      Comic book sales waaaay down recently.

      And it corresponds directly to the SJW takeover of comics.

      "B-b-b-but that ain't why!" scream the SJWs.

      Which must be why Stan Lee and Marvel Comics have told the SJWs to pound sand.

    3. Re:Yet another social justice story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      idiot

    4. Re:Yet another social justice story by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

      Which must be why Stan Lee and Marvel Comics have told the SJWs to pound sand.

      That's why Thor is now a woman and Iron MAN is now a black woman.

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    5. Re:Yet another social justice story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Iron Man had been played by a black guy (James Rhodes) in the comics back in the 1980s because Stark was a drunk.

      Thor is transformed by the hammer into the god form. You have to be worthy, but you don't need to be white. Or even human (see Beta Ray Bill, once again 1980s).

  9. Corporate Culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a way to live

  10. not good enough, misogynerds! by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 0

    Not nearly good enough, you misogynerds! It's all the fault, collectively and severally, of you inferior beings who can't give birth to a child that there are no womyn-born-womyn in tech careers!

    Nothing is good enough until the womyn-born-womyn programmers start precipitating out of the æther!

    1. Re:not good enough, misogynerds! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not nearly good enough, you misogynerds! It's all the fault, collectively and severally, of you inferior beings who can't give birth to a child that there are no womyn-born-womyn in tech careers!

      Nothing is good enough until the womyn-born-womyn programmers start precipitating out of the æther!

      You must have missed it when they got rid of the womyn-born-womyn for being transphobic. Now it's not enough to have womyn-born-womyn, they must be male-born-womyn who have had their birth certificates modified after the fact.

    2. Re:not good enough, misogynerds! by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 2

      tl;dr I should have used sarcasm tags. I forget this place is like the big city. I'm more used to the red site now which is like a small town where everybody knows everybody else. And now the part that's too long:

      Well, I did miss the MWMF closing down at first I admit, being (basically) a trans woman (with complications thanks to TERFs) who would point to MWMF as proof that all feminism is trans-exclusionary but not giving enough of a shit to actually join Camp Trans (learned about that from a trans woman I met at tech convention). BarbaraHudson did fill me in after MWMF had to shut down when I used to post here more. Mostly I post to the red site these days where some of my posts are even serious! (Though increasingly as AC when I'm not posting about something that'll immediately give me away.)

      I forget if that was before or after I scrambled the password to my old UID on both sites. Haha, nearly had a change of heart there about feminism (thank you AmiMoJo, BarbaraHudson, and Azuma Hazuki for at least attempting to get through my thick skull), but then some local TERFeminists (I suspect but cannot prove, events were just too weird to be random chance) gave me a smack down that wound up forcing me to drive a 300 mile round trip to see a doctor over something THAT OBAMACARE DID! Argh!!!eleven!1!

      These days I've said essentially "fuck it." I'm not certain that TERFs actually are a minority voice in feminism, and I'm certain they're not a minority in my neck of the woods! I understand that transfeminism is a thing, but... I've just been put through too much shit because of the misogynerd narrative (was interesting because it was before gamers were dead and misogynerd came into usage), because of rape culture, because of you-name-it. You can stitch it together based on my posts on the red site.

      If all feminists were like the three that I named in this post that at least proved to me that not all feminists are TERFs (and then... only one has the fucking status to say that as a feminist, sorry to the other two, and even then I don't know that. On the internet, nobody knows you're a T-900 advanced infiltrator from the post-apocalyptic future!), I would probably be a feminist. Unfortunately, they're not. The misogynerd narrative has gotten so ridiculous, especially the personal shit it's caused me, that I'm going to be lucky if I don't find out in a month's time from now that I'm also transphobic and homophobic in addition to being a misogynist.

      Yep, I'm a certified misogynist according to one TERF I still see on a daily basis solely because of my assigned gender at birth. Because of a fucking letter on a fucking legal document that may or may not even be the current fucking legal document I'd pull out if you asked me to. It's all my fault (hence the collective and several part of my other post) that there are no womyn-born-womyn programmers, that compilers emit error messages, and fucking Garbage In Garbage Out is all my fault.

      Yep, that's right! Garbage In Garbage Out is the fault of all assigned males (including trans women) EVEN THOUGH LOVELACE HERSELF FIRST PUT FORWARD THE NOTION (in her Notes)!!!!!eleven!1! Argh!!eleven!

      They don't even fucking comprehend her Notes, and they have the arrogance to proclaim that command lines and compilers themselves are tools of the patriarchy specifically designed by assigned males to be inaccessible to womyn-born-womyn!! TERFeminists can get fucked. No, they can get raped for all I care. Not just because of the misery they've caused me, not just because of the misery they've caused all trans women, but because they and their fucking misogynerd narrative and their insistence that "coding" is "easy" (did not read the other article on that subject) or would be if not for some grand conspiracy... they are the ones most directly responsible for the lack of women progr

    3. Re:not good enough, misogynerds! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The way you're treated my TERFs is the way all men are treated by feminists. It's a hate movement.

  11. Someone told me they used this tool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To report that Sergey Brin fucks goats. I'm glad we can have open discussion and disclosure of such useful information.

  12. GET FUCKED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hahahahahahahahah get fucked google! All you fucking leftist pieces of shit GET FUCKED BY YOUR OWN BULLSHIT!

  13. Need for Group is Google's Failure by Jzanu · · Score: 1

    The existence of a list like this was motivated by unmet needs for company oversight and review of workplace conduct between employees. Google's policy for controlling and eliminating harassment is inadequate because their employees say it is.

    1. Re:Need for Group is Google's Failure by jedrek · · Score: 1

      Exactly this. Why does Google spend so much money on hiring and keeping their employees on board, and then completely bone stuff like this?

    2. Re:Need for Group is Google's Failure by geek · · Score: 0

      The failure is in letting a bunch of whiny little bitches work for them in the first place.

  14. "Allegations" by Jfetjunky · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While I know the list is usually anonymous, this kind of thing seems like it could potentially morph into a trial by mod situations. I'm not sure allegations alone are enough for something so serious. I'm not sure any serious HR org would discipline an employee on a single accusation.

    1. Re: "Allegations" by Jfetjunky · · Score: 1

      Boo, I meant "mob"

    2. Re: "Allegations" by Jfetjunky · · Score: 1

      Also, I should have said on "just" an accusation. There would most certainly be more investigating than that.

    3. Re:"Allegations" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A malicious accusation is enough to ruin your career.

    4. Re:"Allegations" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >A malicious accusation is enough to ruin your career.
      Very true if you're a random employee.

      If you're a chosen favorite of your manager, you can get away with anything.

  15. Grow Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's ironic that this list is supposed to report harassment but is essentially a list of high-school-tier rumors.

  16. As time goes on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems the whiny little bitches move more towards 100% of the work force.

    1. Re:As time goes on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They might be moving towards something, but it certainly isn't work. Might have some force though.

  17. I imagined that things at Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Worked more like this

    1. Re: I imagined that things at Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would make sense. Tech company has a tech solution for everything

    2. Re: I imagined that things at Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think half my office would fail that test

  18. Is this for real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That someone feels the need to complain to an entire company about a verbal interruption is laughable.

    The fact that there is a public list created and maintained specifically for complaining about other workers is absurd.

    he fact that Bloomberg pats Google on the back for such undertaking borers on insanity.

    Anyone who is familiar with basic human psychology and dynamics of large organizations should immediately see that such a list is a patently idiotic idea. Just to list one of out many, many problems with such an idea: every large corporation has its share of office politics, rivalries and dysfunctional employees. The list creates a giant force multiplier to be (ab)used by any sociopath with an agenda. And if your company has enough legitimate harassment cases to generate a weekly email, it's guaranteed you have plenty of sociopaths to worry about.

  19. Wait, what? by BoogieChile · · Score: 1

    > ...the men's restrooms in the San Francisco offices have menstruation products to accommodate men who have periods.

    1. Re:Wait, what? by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 1

      I was thinking that co-ed bathrooms would just make this easier. If there are stalls for all sitting/standing positions, there's not really a privacy concern either. The whole discussion of guy, girl, girl turned guy, guy turned girl blah blah blah.... let's make it easy... if you want to support a culture where everyone is equal... they have to be equal, that means equally happy and equally uncomfortable.

      Just build the stalls and make it coed. If the employees don't like it, then quit.

      P.S. - I recommend hiring a cleaning person to keep them clean all the time... otherwise there will be problems as guys seem to think "I never miss the bowl" which may be true... but what we don't generally realize is that there are little sprinkles and tinkles spraying everywhere.... including the floor, the seat and the walls.

  20. White Supremacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Employee has to post something every time he hears that his group is "overrepresented", or - if he or she is white - that his or her group has "too much power", or - if he is a man - complains about "patriarchy" or "wage gap". It can be fun!