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Engineer At Boeing Admits Trying To Sell Space Secrets To Russians (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader shares an ArsTechnica report: Gregory Allen Justice, a 49-year-old engineer living in Culver City, Calif., has pleaded guilty to charges of attempted economic espionage and attempted violation of the Export Control Act. Justice, who according to his father worked for Boeing Satellite Systems in El Segundo, Calif., was arrested last July after selling technical documents about satellite systems to someone he believed to be a Russian intelligence agent. Instead, he sold the docs to an undercover Federal Bureau of Investigation employee. The sting was part of a joint operation by the FBI and the US Air Force Office of Special Investigations. The documents provided by Justice to the undercover agent included information on technology on the US Munitions List, meaning they were regulated by government International Trade in Arms regulations (ITAR). "In exchange for providing these materials during a series of meeting between February and July of 2016, Justice sought and received thousands of dollars in cash payments," a Justice Department spokesperson said in a statement. "During one meeting, Justice and the undercover agent discussed developing a relationship like one depicted on the television show 'The Americans.'"
Gotta be an ex-McDonnell/Douglass guy/
The one's who hire hitmen are the stupidest, they don't exist.
maybe he'll develop a relationship more like the ones in the series "orange is the new black".
Nullius in verba
Wouldn't it be nice if the Alt-right faced up to the fact that the Russians are not the friends of the West. Any alliance with Russia, as history demonstrates, is always of a short duration, so if all the Trump supporters believe that Trump has gained some sort of valuable coin, I suggest a quick review of the Franco-Russian Alliance and the Grand Alliance to see that Russia's unity with the West is always of relatively brief duration.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Trump to announce former engineer as new FBI director.
Except, of course, this had nothing to do with the Russians. They didn't try to buy secrets. This was all FBI acting like they believed the Russian boogeymen would.
Well first of all, I would say you're really up the creek without a paddle if you try something like this. This falls under epic bad life choices. Still, I remember watching a spy documentary and strangely even seemingly reliable folks will sometimes leak information for the thrill, some sort of mid-life crisis or even due to depression. Former actual Russian spies have said sometimes it isn't even for that much money. It's unfortunate but something that folks in the Intelligence community have to deal with time and time again.
How naive are you? Do you not know we're doing EXACTLY the same thing to them? It's called espionage. Just look at the Vault7 releases. This is all part of a cycle. If we broke the cycle and all got along we could be colonizing Mars. But no, you'd rather seek to divide peoples based on nationality and talk about the "scary Russians" and the alt-right. You realize a few years ago Russia was our friends again right? Do you know remember how Obama lectured and mocked Romney in 2012 debate saying the 1980's called, they want their foreign policy back over a comment he had made saying Russia was a threat? Typical cognitive dissonance. We are truly living in 1984. We were never at war with Eurasia, we've always been at war with Eurasia.
Any alliance with Russia, as history demonstrates, is always of a short duration
Congratulations; proving you wrong was trivially easy.
Umm, a payed off Russian boogey man at that. What's to say TRUMP didnt pay off a few moles at Diebold and Associates who make the voting machines to give out the Wi-Fi encryption password so Russians could hack into the elections and change a few votes here and there? We already Know TRUMP's cronies sold Putin the F-14 secrets. I think they are on to something and you are coming to conclusions too soon, just wait and see.
FBI is out of touch with reality. Nobody wants their stupid "satellite technology", as demonstrated by the fact that nobody is buying except FBI and nobody is selling except american dollar slaves.
Russia beat you into space. I heard that space exploration has so many spinoffs and pays back seven dollars/rubles for every dollar/ruble spent...
Why would they need space secrets?
YEAH!! Ronald Reagan was totally right when he called them an Evil Empire in the 80s.
All the Democrats stood in complete unity with him and sang God Bless America at his brave brave patriotism and standing up to those Soviets!
Just look at Teddy Kennedy's 1984 campaign for proof that he totally agreed with Reagan. Totally.
http://thefederalist.com/2015/...
Your tinfoil hat is too tight.
The Russian "boogeyman" is real, don't be stupid. They have active intelligence operations and a budget to do this exactly. That's why it's plausible. This is part of a control system in place to gauge their security and the trust they have in individuals they believe could have access to documents sought by the enemy, in this case Russia but in other cases China or Israel or other nations. It has nothing to do with "Russia" at all, except as staging for this sting operation. That doesn't make Russia any more of or any less of a real threat, but they used it for a specific reason and in this case it was successful in compromising the engineer.
Are you fucking retarded? This wasn't FBI satellite technology; This was Boeing/Government satellite technology. Maybe if you learned to read you wouldn't sound like a complete fuckwit.
...The leftists have done everything they can to impede [Twitler]...
Yup. And you can keep pretending that Mitch McConnell did not spend eight years blocking Obama at every turn.
All's fair in love, war, and politics. And ain't karma a bitch. Get used to it. We're not going to stop.
... then either play the political games if you want promotions, leave for something better, or just learn to live with where you are. Whatever you do, don't be double stupid by violating the rules. That kind of stupid belongs in jail.
Wouldn't it be justice if he is a Hillary surrogate?
The truth is, he's a registered Republican.
But that's just an Alternative Fact. What we "leftists" like to call "a lie." I don't actually know what his political affiliation is. (But I wouldn't be surprised to find out I guessed right.)
I figured you're so used to Alternative Facts you wouldn't notice being fed yet another Alternative Fact.
On a more serious note, what would a "Hilary surrogate" at Boeing really be? I don't quite get your point. Other than you're just being a typical Alt Right (a.k.a. Nazi) troll. Is that it?
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The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Yeah ummm BRICS?
The US should be stealing rocket secrets from the russians!
You realize a few years ago Russia was our friends again right? Do you know remember how Obama lectured and mocked Romney in 2012 debate saying the 1980's called, they want their foreign policy back over a comment he had made saying Russia was a threat?
Yeah, until Russia invaded Ukraine 3 years ago, annexed Crimea, and shot down a civilian airplane. Do you remember that?
Come on guys -_-. All a story like this is going to do is take pressure off of another "certain" person. People really are that dumb. Place your bets; one week? Two weeks? I wonder what Bills the U.S. will pass or people will be fired in the meantime. I also like how it's normal to talk about a country we aren't at war with like we are. Conservatives have the weirdest ways of expressing nostalgia. All of the world's leaders are ego maniacs and placing blame in a generalizing way is playing a dangerous game of Jenga.
Cool story. We have spies, they have spies, the world keeps turning. Meanwhile, NASA was ran by Nazis. Using "Russian" as a general term just makes you a xenophobic douche who apparently, is highly susceptible to propaganda and can't wait to see the world burn.
hey, the mans gotta eat.
If you think the Feds are the friend of the average citizen, you're an idiot.
I think the Chinese know how to play game better than anyone else. Gather all the trade secrets and intel that you can, while "systematically dismantling" anyone leaking the same to the world.
Sometimes I wonder what the going market rates are for this sort of thing. Did this guy try to sell to Russians, because they pay more than the Chinese?
You're a fucking idiot. Russia is being run by an unreconstructed fascist hell bent on writing himself into the history books, damn the consequences to the world or Russia itself.
Let's put it this way: how do you think the world would feel, if the Germans celebrated an annual holiday for the SS and Gestapo, as Russia celebrates the crimes of the Cheka, NKVD and KGB each year??
Russia, as of 2017, is a menace to the free world.
Laughable Putinbot talking points.
"Russia is our friend". Putinbot bullshit.
Obama sledg. Putinbot bullshit.
"Russophobia" "scary Russians". Putinbot bullshit.
(Childish reference to Nineteen Eighty Four). Putinbot BULLSHIT.
We are wise to Putinbot shill bullshit.
We are wise to Russia's lies and divide-and-conquer tactics and sleaze. We are sick of being attacked and undermined by the kleptofascists, and we will not stand for it.
Go away, troll.
Cute. The Putinbot came up with an original line.
Did they raise your borscht ration today?
You do REALIZE that Crimea was apart of Russia before the United States was even a country? Or do they not teach you idiots history?
Who was confused by this guy's last name coupled with mention of the Justice Department?
He didn't say the word or name Israel, so there's nothing wrong with giving those secrets to Russia.
You do REALIZE that Crimea was apart of Russia before the United States was even a country? Or do they not teach you idiots history?
As I recall Crimea was *apart* from Russia until Catherine the Great defeated the Ottoman Empire in 1783. Although the constitution of the US wasn't adopted until 1789, I think USA was technically a country between 1776 and 1789...
Although the Russians managed to keep Crimea after the Crimean war (1856), as an indirect consequence of that war, the Russia ended up selling Alaska to the USA. This was part of a bizarre time when US and Russia actually were allies. During the US civil war (1861-1865), Britain was the meddling country trying to destabilize the Union government and Russia was one of our only friends. Russia had just liberated their serfs following the Crimean War aligning themselves with the Union release of the southern slaves and Russian diplomats gave Lincoln a heads up about a French-UK plan to enter the war on the side of the Confederacy and forcing the Union to recognize the Confederacy as a nation. Somehow we kept that relationship with Russia up until WWI.
Politics sometimes makes strange bedfellows...
Shut up bitch, you need to learn to read posts before replying to them. It says "FBI" was buying "satallite technology", which is true, nobody else, which is what they want people to believe.
Let's put it this way: how do you think the world would feel, if the Germans celebrated an annual holiday for the SS and Gestapo, as Russia celebrates the crimes of the Cheka, NKVD and KGB each year??
Now you know how Europeans feel everytime Americans start talking about "their boys in Iraq".
Justice and the undercover agent discussed developing a relationship like one depicted on the television show 'The Americans.'
Forget the cash payments. See if you can get me Paige's phone number.
Except, of course, this had nothing to do with the Russians. They didn't try to buy secrets. This was all FBI acting like they believed the Russian boogeymen would.
Yep, it was a USA home-made sting. And, apparently, in the legal process of sorting this out, it had to have been determined that it was not entrapment.
The article is really short on details, but I just don't see a random search of a guy's car, which turned up a scrap of paper with the Russian embassy address on it, led the FBI to set up a (complicated) and expensive sting.
It just makes me wonder if the FBI "always getting their man" would be better stated as, "We always get a man."
Hell, when I lived in DC, I had the addresses of lots of embassies in my home and car. They throw great cultural-awareness soirees on occasion, and I went to them for the free cultural experience (food, drink, an artist, dancers, whatever). So... just having the address to an embassy on you does not automagically make you a spy. (In LA, where he got busted, "Embassy Row" is along Wilshire Blvd. They're clustered.)
There is far more to this story than has been reported, so we can only guess at why, how, when, and what for the guy who plead guilty of speaking with the FBI.
HINT: Never speak to law enforcement. Ever. Google it.
YEAH!! Ronald Reagan was totally right when he called them an Evil Empire in the 80s.
All the Democrats stood in complete unity with him and sang God Bless America at his brave brave patriotism and standing up to those Soviets!
Just look at Teddy Kennedy's 1984 campaign for proof that he totally agreed with Reagan. Totally.
http://thefederalist.com/2015/...
1984.
The book was a warning, not a manual.
Well if Ukrainia were a more tradiationally democratic and stable country, I suppose it would let Crimea vote for independence / annexation, like the UK let Scotland vote. And the result would have been an overwhelming support of annexation by Crimea's population. As it happens, Ukrainia were not sufficiently stable and democratic to let that vote happen while Crimea were under its control. The referendum was held shortly after the annexation. Whether the official number is accurate or not (>96% in favor at 83% turnout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ), there is no contest the vote was a landslide support of the annexation. Face that, this is democracy.
Shut up bitch, your strawman logic is as retarded as the annexation of California by you stupid n1ggers.
How naive are you? Do you not know we're doing EXACTLY the same thing to them? It's called espionage.
Yep. Do you know what happened just after Trump became president?
The Russians got a lot more information on who the US spies are and killed off a bunch.
Just because both sides acts like shit doesn't mean you tolerate it. If you uncover spies you either feed them false intel or you kill them. If someone commits treason you hang them. That is how the game works.
The moment you stop trying to prevent the others from doing what you do to them is the moment you lose.
So?
Before that US wasn't a country, does that mean that it is OK for me to grab that land since it wasn't a country before?
How about Moscow, it was under Swedish rule for a couple of days in 1610. Does that give them the right to take it back?
As for that matter that was another country that was named Russia.
The current Russia declared being a sovereign nation 1991 and have no legit claims on Crimea.
Don't try to make this about Russia, they weren't trying to buy your "space secrets". Have you already forgotten that they won the space race, perhaps? They don't need to buy "space secrets" from anyone, regardless of the size of their budget compared to yours.
Your examples (and other historical examples) actually show that it is the other way around - the West is not a friend of Russia. As the history demonstrates indeed.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
With his head.
Since when do the Russians not buy secrets?
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
It doesn't fucking matter who it belonged to before. The fact remains that it was Ukranian territory when Russia came in and took it during the Russia-led Ukranian civil war.