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The Cable TV Industry Is Getting Even Less Popular (fortune.com)

Aaron Pressman, writing for Fortune: It seems nobody loves their cable TV or home Internet provider. Wireless carriers, however, are on the upswing.That's the news from the huge annual survey of 43 industries from the American Customer Satisfaction Index. In 2017, cable operators and ISP tied for last place, with an average customer satisfaction rating of just 64 percent. The wireless industry was still near the bottom of the rankings, in 38th place, just below the U.S. postal system. But its 73 percent score was up almost three percentage points from last year. Many of the same companies, like Comcast and Verizon, dominate both fields, ACSI noted. And neither industry offer much choice to consumers, with most localities having only one or two cable and Internet providers. The cable industry's rating slipped 1.5 percentage points from last year, while the rating for ISPs was unchanged.

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  1. Wonder why the postal system is ranked so low? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, I never have any problems with lost mail, it arrives dependably and at the same time every day, and even with the frequent stamp price increases it still seems like a bargain to send something coast-to-coast in a couple of days for less than a buck.

    The only bad thing I might have to say would involve standing in line at the post office, but even that is not really necessary very often anymore with online postage and pickup. I think the US Postal Service should get very high marks. Maybe I just don't use it enough.

    1. Re:Wonder why the postal system is ranked so low? by H3lldr0p · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's another disinformation campaign that's been going on for some time. There are a few congressional members who have been aiming to rid us of the Post Office and sell off pieces of it to their buddies. They've been making sure that the PO's budget can't balance through making them pre-pay pensions for a very unreasonable amount of time as well as shrinking the amount they can charge for stamps.

      That doesn't even get into the political battle over letting the PO act as a bank for low income people. Which it did at one time but was removed in the late sixties and completely shut down by 1984.

    2. Re:Wonder why the postal system is ranked so low? by Insightfill · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's another disinformation campaign that's been going on for some time. There are a few congressional members who have been aiming to rid us of the Post Office and sell off pieces of it to their buddies. They've been making sure that the PO's budget can't balance through making them pre-pay pensions for a very unreasonable amount of time as well as shrinking the amount they can charge for stamps.

      That doesn't even get into the political battle over letting the PO act as a bank for low income people. Which it did at one time but was removed in the late sixties and completely shut down by 1984.

      The US postal system is also one of the largest single union employers in the country. Yet another reason that many are trying to "drowned it in a bathtub."

      The Post Office is additionally hamstrung by Congress micro-managing it. Want to get rid of Saturday delivery? No. Want to raise the price of a stamp? No. It's really quite tragic. Like that story about the boy who keeps commanding a grasshopper to jump and pulling off legs each time it fails, then loudly proclaiming that it must be deaf.

    3. Re:Wonder why the postal system is ranked so low? by swb · · Score: 2

      I've had the same experience, but I think in some parts of the country it may be more problematic. There have been a few well-publicized incidents of couriers hoarding/dumping mail rather than delivering it.

      It's probably statistically rare overall, but I have to believe that it must happen more than we know about, if not commonly, then periodically.

      I'd also guess that in dense urban areas, there's probably also a fair amount of mail theft, bad mailbox setups which lead to mail theft or misdelivery, and some post offices may be worse than others in terms of employee quality, etc.

      It's not that the entire postal system is bad, but if there are enough problems in specific areas it may wind up being "the post office is bad".

  2. I don't have a choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The only service I have through Mediacom is internet. Their service is ok for the price. But their customer service is horrible, they talk down to you and treat you like you're the enemy. I got a DMCA violation for downloading a CD that I owned. So I cleared all copies of it out of everywhere. Yet somehow it happened again. They insisted that it can still be uploading even if I don't have a bittorrent client installed as long as I have the .torrent file. They shut off my internet. So we got a new account in my girlfriends name at a different address, we had an official 2nd address with an A at the end through the town. After a couple of months they shut her off because the post office forgot to actually register the 2nd address and they had her voice recorded calling for support on my previous account. Finally after enough ass kissing they turned on her account, but she had to agree not to let me put any of my devices, not even my phone on her service. The only other alternative is a DSL provider who will sell you a 7Mb package but you'll be lucky to get 1.

  3. Re:Actions by Sperbels · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The half a million who switched to streaming services are the ones who are actually dissatisfied.* The ones who keep paying a monthly bill for cable TV are satisfied enough.

    Actually, no, I'm not dissatisfied streaming. What I was dissatisfied with was having 200 channels of mostly unwatchable garbage, paying $100 a month for commercial ridden shows that I didn't really want to watch.

  4. How to Fix your Comcast Cable Modem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
  5. Cable TV is priced for the top 20% by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2

    Cable TV is grossly over priced.

    I suspect they've found that the profit yield curve peaks for them selling $240 packages to the top 20% who don't care about price.

    I cut the cord on cable TV and if money ever gets tight, my cell bandwidth is now high enough and fast enough that I'll probably kill cable internet and use my cell for internet.

    Cable TV used to cost about 8 minimum wage hours back when it started. And that was with the two premium channels. And it had a fewer commercials. Now it's easy to hit 24 minimum wage hours. And with more commercials.

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  6. Re:Actions by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2

    You are off by over an order of magnitude.

    Cable subscribers have dropped by over 8 million households since 2017.

    And the longterm trend is towards the European model with much lower rates of subscriptions except for sports fans.

    Business Insider estimates it will cut the value of media companies (esp Viacom) by about 40%.

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  7. I'm surprised - airline industry? by dpilot · · Score: 2

    I'm rather surprised that the Cable / ISPs managed to beat the airline industry here. Must be either short-term memory, or maybe a lot of people don't fly often.

    At least the Cable / ISPs don't physically drag you away from your TV or computer screen. Nor are you at all liekly to need pat-down searches for TV or internet.

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  8. Re:Actions by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The half a million who switched to streaming services are the ones who are actually dissatisfied.*
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    * excepting the very small minority who can get cable TV but not cable Internet

    What about the very sizable group that can get high-speed internet access only from a cable company which offers them a discount cable, internet, and phone service bundled which makes it actually cheaper to have cable? Those people can be cable subscribers, and yet dissatisfied with cable, and also be rational consumers.

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  9. Hardly surprising by Mordaximus · · Score: 2

    An hour time slot is filled with 40 minutes of actual content, the remainder being commercials. There's no better painful reminder of this than Netflix. Go back and find a show from the 80s, or the 90s and note the playtime, and compare it to today. And the way the bundles are set up, you end up having to pay an extra $40 just to get the one channel that was actually worthwhile.

    There was a time where TLC was actually about learning. And A&E was about arts and entertainment. They are an utter waste of time now.

    Choke on your lost profits, cable companies.

  10. Re:Online sports by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

    But how much longer is that going to last? Once cable viewership falls below a certain threshold the sports leagues are going to jump ship in a hurry, and either find a new middle man to broadcast games online, or simply make their own. The whole business model only works so long as the cable companies can guarantee the leagues and advertisers sufficient viewers. That's why I think cord cutting, when it reaches a critical mass, is simply going to see cable TV collapse. There's a point at which it isn't sustainable anymore.

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  11. Re:The NHL doesn't want you to watch it's games by mentil · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you are steaming, you should probably get that looked at. Or else leave the sauna, the steam is likely to harm your electronic device.

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