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Major US Tech Firms Press Congress For Internet Surveillance Reforms (reuters.com)
Dustin Volz, reporting for Reuters: Facebook, Amazon and more than two dozen other U.S. technology companies pressed Congress on Friday to make changes to a broad internet surveillance law, saying they were necessary to improve privacy protections and increase government transparency. The request marks the first significant public effort by Silicon Valley to wade into what is expected to be a contentious debate later the year over the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, parts of which will expire on Dec. 31 unless Congress reauthorizes them. Of particular concern to the technology industry and privacy advocates is Section 702, which allows U.S. intelligence agencies to vacuum up vast amounts of communications from foreigners but also incidentally collects some data belonging to Americans that can be searched by analysts without a warrant.
Most of the lefty press is doing its hardest to not report on this week's news that the FISA court issued a scathing rebuke of the Obama administration for a protracted, sustained, deliberate embrace of purposeful 4th amendment violations of untold thousands of US citizens, and the FBI's dissemination of NSA-collected information on these people, without legal cover from a court, to "third parties." The courts had told the Obama administration specifically what they needed to change in order to become constitutionally compliant, and the Obama administration completely blew them off. A lot of this intersects with the scope of special counsel Mueller's authority in his current look-around, so hopefully he'll follow the trail down those "third party" rabbit holes and find out who was putting that huge pile of data to work, how, and to what end and at whose request.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
They're all already in bed with the intelligence agencies. Why do they continue to put on this BS trick and pony show where they pretend to care about our privacy?
"Spying is our Job, Damnit!"
-Sincerely, Silicon Valley.
This could be a political cartoon. CDN's and Large Advertising networks Lobbying congress to not do their own spying so they can sell the information to the government themselves. It's good American business.
Right up until the American Citizenry decide enough is enough.
So, let me get this straight.
Facebook, who enjoys pimping out the largest human database on the planet, and Amazon, who also holds one of the largest databases of human behavior as well as manufacturing an entire line of voice-enabled-always-listening devices sitting deep in people's homes...
...are the organizations arguing against mass surveillance?
I can't tell if this is some kind of sick joke, twisted irony, or if they're just pissed that someone might be muscling in on their revenue streams.
The very ones that are complicit!
Am I the only one who equates "search without warrant" and/or "mass surveillance" with "guilty before proven innocent", the exact opposite of what happens in a free country? It seems blindingly obvious to me. Am I off base here?
Like hey, since we're being surveilled anyway, let's set up some house rules.
Most *normal* people are fucking retarded. Americans have forgotten that privacy is another word for liberty. Our government knows this.
Tech companies don't want privacy, they just want less competition, and a market to sell the data to the government. Government wants it too. Then there are NO constitutional protections, no pesky warrants, no need for secret courts, bigger budgets, less transparency, no oversight, and even more data. All packaged and legal, direct from the companies everybody already loves. It's perfect.
Yesterday I read about a DMV somewhere that was leasing their own in-house facial recog system to enforcement and got hung up for it... cuz government spying. I understand FB has has pretty good recog for YEARS, and has spent quite a while perfecting the sale of data. Looks like a market just opened up.
We already accept these very companies are selling our demographic and interest info, but what do you think your dozen or so (aliases) screen-names are worth to enforcement? How about a list of your closest (known associates) friends? Political affiliation? How about a list of every gun owner within 2 blocks of $ADDRESS, separated by income, skin color, employment status, and real time location history.... instantly? You know, for the children.
This data is already on the shelves folks, and these companies are using our outrage at government spying to build a market for it.
Facebook and Amazon are asking for privacy? Like as in less spying? It must be fucking opposite day.
You are being ripped off every second of every day, so that advertisers can help rip you off even more tomorrow.
Sure it's hypocritical.
However these companies don't want the competition. They also don't want the legal liabilities, and the marketing drag, that comes with the government wanting that sweet corporate data. Better for them all around if the government simply asks for less data.
Ok, ignore the people. Let's have the companies and government duke it out over what's best for us.
Huh? Surveillance giants Amazon, FB, etc., are complaining about surveillance? How about the public have free continuous access to all the aggregatedâ surveillance data available for the surveillance giants' executives? Wouldn't that be fair and transparent?