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What To Do If the Laptop Ban Goes Global (backchannel.com)

"The U.S. is reportedly seriously considering a greatly expanded ban on laptops in airplane cabins," writes Slashdot reader mirandakatz -- sharing some advice from Dan Gillmor. If the government still allows laptops to be checked in with luggage, "the priority will be to discourage tampering and mitigate the risks associated with theft," he writes, envisioning that "If I have to check mine, I'll pack it in bubble wrap and tape, and do some other things to make it evident if someone has tampered with the machine." But of course there's other precautions: [W]e can travel with bare-bones operating system setups, with as little personal or business data as possible (preferably none at all) on the laptop's internal disk drive. When we arrive and get back online, we can work mostly in browsers and retrieve what we need from cloud storage for the specific applications that have to run "locally" on the PC... You might also get a Chromebook for international travel. Chromebooks run Google's Chrome operating system and keep pretty much all data in Google's cloud. So you could carry a bare Chromebook through a border, go online, and retrieve the information you need. You have to completely trust Google with this method...

[The article also suggests encrypting the hard disk -- along with your phone -- or carrying an external drive.] I use the Ubuntu operating system, and this simplifies creating a special travel setup. In preparation for international hassles, I've put a copy of my OS and essential data files on an encrypted USB thumb drive, which holds 256 gigabytes of data... If I've forgotten to load some specific files, and I have them backed up in the cloud, I can always go there.

Because of all the additional security procedures, he utlimately predicts higher ticket prices, fewer business travellers, and, according to Bruce Schneier, "a new category of 'trusted travelers' who are allowed to carry their electronics onto planes."

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  1. Theft and Damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Honestly, who the heck trusts that their laptop would not be seriously damaged or stolen if they check it in their baggage? I've had things that were MUCH LESS fragile than a laptop completely destroyed in checked baggage.

    1. Re:Theft and Damage by jfdavis668 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I check my laptop in my baggage every time I fly overseas. I'm not interested in working on the flight. Never had a problem with it. You do have to properly pack it. I have a case specifically made to pack it into your luggage for protection. You can't just throw it on top and close the bag and expect it to survive.

    2. Re:Theft and Damage by Known+Nutter · · Score: 4, Informative

      Agreed. I put my laptop it its bag -- one of those thick ass Dell bags -- and toss it into my luggage. I've never had an issue.

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  2. Avoid travel or leave laptop at home by religionofpeas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My plan is to avoid travel by plane as much as I can. And if I really have to travel, then I'm going to leave my laptop at home. I don't trust the baggage handlers not to steal it, so checking in is not an option.

    1. Re:Avoid travel or leave laptop at home by shmlco · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sounds like an opportunity for some enterprising company to offer laptop rentals at airports. Pick it up when you arrive, drop it back off on the return.

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    2. Re:Avoid travel or leave laptop at home by shmlco · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Also, stuff like this is just going to push development of autonomous vehicles and their use for business travel and vacation travel even faster.

      Won't help for really long-distance or overseas travel, of course, but for regional travel why not bypass all of the airport/airline/TSA BS?

      Get in your car the night before, tell it to take you to some other city, then take a nap and wake up when you get there. No lines, no security, and no having to get to the airport two hours ahead of time "just in case"... only to find your flight's been delayed two hours.

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    3. Re:Avoid travel or leave laptop at home by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sounds like an opportunity for some enterprising company to offer laptop rentals at airports.

      Some airline is already experimenting with providing laptop loaners for free to business and first class passengers.

      Of course, most corporate IT Security folks would rightly ban that for their employees. Given the amount of industrial and personal espionage performed by the NSA, CIA and their pals . . . most folks should just stay away from this anyway.

      Hmmm . . . maybe airlines need to offer more options for passengers willing to pay more for tickets? Like, Muslims are banned, but laptops are allowed (the Trump policy) . . . ? No screaming babies or fat folks blubbering over to your side of the seat . . . ?

      Banning laptops is not going to "fly well." Business folks, who make more profits for the airlines will cut back on flying. A monthly intercontinental trip will become a quarterly one. When their profits are hurt, the airlines will shit-can the laptop ban.

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    4. Re:Avoid travel or leave laptop at home by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Uh, you don't need to hop on a freighter to cross the Atlantic, there are still scheduled passenger liners plying the Atlantic routes, and a crossing can take as little as three days in decent luxury.

    5. Re:Avoid travel or leave laptop at home by Alypius · · Score: 5, Interesting

      For domestic flights, you could always check your laptop with your firearm (even a starter pistol qualifies). The items in the case are inventoried at both ends of the flight and the law requires a keyed padlock (no TSA locks).

    6. Re:Avoid travel or leave laptop at home by Jason1729 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The cruise industry makes most of the world reachable by sea. Cunard (who owned the Lusitania) has never stopped their transatlantic service for example. You can cross the atlantic in 5 hours crammed like a sardine in a tin can (after enduring hours of torture and a prostate exam at the airport) or in 7 days on a luxury ocean liner with all entertainment and food included.....For about the same price.

      For most people, and obviously all business travellers, 7 days at sea is a deal breaker. For vacationers with plenty of time on their hands, it really isn't a bad option.

      Also you sound pretty ignorant when you say not many steamship lines still in existence. The lines are still around, with modern Diesel ships that are every bit as sophisticated as an aircraft carrier.

    7. Re:Avoid travel or leave laptop at home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My plan is to avoid travel by plane as much as I can.

      This is the only possible response. I'd like to say that the US can't possibly be that stupid as it will seriously hurt business, but since 2001 the US has proven that there's no levels of stupid that it won't try.

      It's not just laptops--it's anything bigger than a cell phone. Sure, it's possible to work with a cell phone under certain fairly limited circumstances, but it's ridiculous to have to as well. There's no way I'd travel for business or even personal reasons if I can't have a notebook with me.

      Checking it is ridiculous. They don't want you locking luggage except with useless locks, so that's right out. That, and letting a notebook out of your control on a trip like that is just asking for law enforcement to tamper with it. Sure, it's already pretty much a requirement to keep anything you don't want them seeing encrypted on a server you access from your destination and not on your notebook, but controlling the base hardware is an absolute must because when you decrypt it you have to trust the platform.

      No, the only possible response to this is to hit businesses where it hurts in response. Cut out international travel completely and since governments are corrupt and controlled by business let THEM take care of repealing this or preventing it from going into place at all. It's the only way.

    8. Re:Avoid travel or leave laptop at home by quetwo · · Score: 5, Informative

      I used to fly with a flare gun all the time in my checked luggage. Flare guns are allowed in every state (and even traveling to Canada), require no permits and allow you to follow the TSA "gun" policy. My lock, hard-sided case, fully real-time traceable, and if the airline looses it, they get fined $250,000 -- so they make sure they actually keep track of it. It takes an additional 5 minutes to check-in, and most of the time your luggage will be first off with somebody waiting with it (except for the smallest airports, where you have to go to the luggage office to sign for it). No additional cost to do it except for Spirit.

    9. Re:Avoid travel or leave laptop at home by Alypius · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yep, if a gun-like appliance is a non-starter (e.g. travel within New York, CA, or some other police state), you can always get an el-cheapo (~$10) box of 9mm ammo. Same flight rules apply and a lot cheaper!

  3. Re:Do it the old fashioned way... by Vermonter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Encrypting your dead tree notebook must have taken forever

  4. just take the PC by ooloorie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You can travel with something like an Intel NUC Skull Canyon or a Compute Stick and just plug it into the hotel TV's HDMI port. No laptop battery, no fire hazard, etc. Or you can simply use your phone as a computer and plug it into an HDMI port.

    You can carry sensitive data on a separate micro-SD card, which, realistically, airport security or passport control won't look for or find unless you're already on a terrorist watch list, in which case a laptop ban is the least of your worries.

    1. Re:just take the PC by AHuxley · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The security services usually have that smart TV loaded with some extras in most nations. Mic, camera or just looking for the data connection.
      That smart TV is the perfect way to see what a guest does, what data they look at, images, movies.. or to turn on a mic/camera if they have guests to talk to their fellow workers on the same trip.

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  5. We don't need laptops anymore by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It is will just erode the market share of laptops. We really don't need lug around a keyboard, screen, pointing device and a battery anymore. Just a simple nexus-4 sized pack with memory and cpu. Docking stations that can take this device and add a keyboard, mouse, pointing device and a screen will hit the market. Hotels will provide it, may be for a fee, may be free. We will have one dock at work and one at home. We might buy and keep more such docks for visitors and guests. This is going to be the future. Will happen whether laptops get banned on planes or not. If laptop ban goes global this will accelerate the timeline.

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    1. Re:We don't need laptops anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And when I need to work at a client, I need their docking station, with complementary keylogger.

      And when I need to work around without stopping at a hotel I need to take with me the docking station (lol)

      No, laptops are not going anywhere. The only reason the sales are down is because we are hitting the "good enough" target with 4-5 year products, a 3 year laptop is not crap anymore.

      Not to mention the absurdity of trying to work on a mobile operating system. You want me to work on android? ios? it's a joke, right?

  6. Re:The reason given makes absolutely no sense by DrXym · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That is a sensible solution and one that would stop mobile / tablet / laptop manufacturers from sealing in batteries. A double win.

  7. Re:Do it the old fashioned way... by Hognoxious · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm a doctor you insensitive clod, my handwritings already encrypted!

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  8. We could do all that shit by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or we could elect a different class of politicians instead of following blind tribalism. Sorry, but all this is self inflicted, and every chance they have, the voters only make it worse.

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  9. Re:Do it the old fashioned way... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just don't have any threatening math in your notebook.

    I write Roman numerals instead of Arabic numerals. ;)

  10. Ready to send your private data somewhere ? by what+about · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How do you know what OS / backdoor is on that laptop/device ?
    It is already a huge burden to have a minimum level of privacy on "random" devices.
    A device that is specifically given to foreign visitors is surely going to be snooped upon.

    So far, the USB computer on a stick is still the best bet.

  11. Cloud computing by OrangeTide · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'll expense a Chromebook or netbook at my trip's destination, or get a loaner from IT if I'm visiting one of my company's sites. I'll throw the Chromebook in the garbage before I leave.
    We beat the terrorist, but add millions of tons of electronics to landfills.

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  12. It's not just laptops... by Zocalo · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's any gear larger than a phone, which means all your expensive cameras and lenses as well. I was hoping to see a few ideas I might not have thought of from fellow photographers already given there's over 100 comments, but since I appear to be the first here's my thoughts for travelling with a backpack's worth of high-end camera gear:

    Firstly, define "global". If we're just talking about any flights flying to/from the US/UK (or any other countries that start doing this), then the obvious initial step is to route around the problem by flying via airports that don't transit the US and UK. If one of your endpoints is in the US/UK, then that's tougher and depends on your location - driving over the Candian or Mexican border may be an option for the US, while for the UK CDG is only a Eurostar and change from London, and Dublin a short trip from Northern Ireland.

    If we *really* mean "global" - e.g. every international flight, regardless of endpoints - or the above is unworkable for any reason, then it's going to have to be a Peli Case or similar, and rolling the dice with theft by airport staff and genuine loss in transit. Where practical, I'd hope to mitigate against that by shipping ahead of time as freight - there's better insurance cover anyway, and I'd expect international couriers to start exploring opportunities in this area to make things easier and more cost effective if the ban does go global. If I do have to travel with the gear, then I'm thinking of going for a padded Pelicase I can just put my regular backpack and a few other items in, which means it's going to be big and heavy and will need to be run though oversize baggage. Actually, I'm probably going to make sure that it does, because while that means special handling and more cost, it also means better tracking and in some instances to put the airline on the hook for the full value of the contents if it goes astray. I'll probably put couple of "Fragile" stickers and maybe some of those impact detection stickers on there as well.

    Finally, and regardless of the above, screw the compromised TSA locks. I use proper padlocks and security gets confronted with an inventory of the case's contents should they decide to bolt-cutter it - good padlocks are not that expensive, and it's a much better deterant against opportunistic theft by anyone with the magic key.

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  13. Re:Useless suggestions by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's why, as someone else already mentioned, the right workaround (ignoring the huge inconvenience of not being able to work during the flight itself) would be to buy a gun (even a starter pistol) and store it (properly declared and unloaded) in a checked lockbox along with your laptop.

    Of course, if everyone who owned a laptop did this, the TSA would probably implode from the extra workload of handling that many hand inspections, but that's not my problem; that's something for the total newbie TSA people who naïvely proposed a no-laptops-onboard policy to solve.

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