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Silicon Valley Is Too Focused On Taking the Easy Path in Health Care (cnbc.com)

Silicon Valley investors are increasingly looking at health space, but they are mostly eyeing for opportunities on the fringes of the traditional health care system to avoid long and complicated regulatory cycles, an analysis on CNBC shows. As a result of this, these start-ups will not help low-income and chronically ill patients who need innovation most. From the article: Founders often talk about about how challenging it can be to break into the multi-trillion dollar medical sector. Health care startups face regulatory hurdles, long sales cycles and a high burden of proof -- and that means it can take more than a decade to make a return. As a result, many venture-backed entrepreneurs are looking instead at opportunities on the fringes of the health care system, such as cash-only health services that don't require insurance or tests and apps that aren't regulated by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. For tech investors, these opportunities hold the chance of an outsized return in five years or less. That often valuations on par with consumer Internet start-ups. [...] Many entrepreneurs acknowledge this, but justify their approach by promising to focus on more at-risk groups once they've nailed the product.

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  1. Brilliant by stephenmac7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They've figured out that the regulations they're always pushing for make it near-impossible to compete with established companies and hurt innovation.

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    1. Re:Brilliant by Luthair · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have some snake oil it cures cancer and makes you live 50% longer. Would you like to buy some?

    2. Re:Brilliant by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They've figured out that the regulations they're always pushing for make it near-impossible to compete with established companies and hurt innovation.

      Yep....

      I think the reply to them is pretty much, "Duh".....

      That's the way it is with overly onerous regulations...it ONLY helps the big guys that can afford to fund a full department dedicated to only the regulation and documentation side of the business.

      It is understandable in some respects, due to this being medicine...lives can be affected by errors, but the regulations aren't just targeted at direct patient interaction...but many other things.

      It does bring up, however, questions as to how some parts are SO over-regulated, yet direct patient contact items, like heart regulators, insulin and other drug pumps are able to be put out there, without even *basic* encryption, so as to protect patients from being literally hacked, and possibly killed.

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    3. Re:Brilliant by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Regulations are good and necessary to a free market, but established players tend to get regulations which are not good or necessary for a free market tacked on. Governments get in on the action to try to extract money and craft perks for their special interests. Sometimes the unnecessary regulations are simply the result of well-meaning officials who think they are improving upon what a free market could deliver, but in reality have the effect of freezing the state of the art.

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    4. Re:Brilliant by interkin3tic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is understandable in some respects, due to this being medicine...lives can be affected by errors, but the regulations aren't just targeted at direct patient interaction...but many other things.

      Just to be clear, interactions with the patient are only a tiny slice of what can kill a patient. Making sure a drug companies' formulation facilities are bacterial-free is pretty far removed from patient interactions.

      If you're making a test blood poisoning, that's never going to be put into a patient. You want to be sure the raw components are bacterial free though obviously or else the tests are going to be useless and doctors won't know if they're facing blood poisoning or something else. To make sure the raw components are bacterial free you want the facilities to be bacterial free. If you find bacteria, you need to shut down production while you sterilize everything. That's a huge cost.

      If you're trying to start selling a cheaper test and you get a report saying you need to shut down production for a week, any sane business is going to say "Hmm... that will kill us... is it REALLY necessary to shut down if we have three bacterial colonies on a single plate? Lets talk to the undergrad who reported the test, ask him if he really wants everyone to lose their jobs? 'Isn't it maybe possible you accidentally sneezed on the plate?'"

      Easy to justify: you know your facilities are clean, you spend a shit ton of money cleaning them. And that's just like the doors! That's not even the production vats! No way is the whole thing contaminated. Plus these aren't even going to go into people... You do testing of all the lots of blood tests, you'll know if they're compromised... And besides, any doctor worth his salt is going to be able to identify SEPSIS without a %100.00000000 accurate blood test, it's so common! Fire the kid and ship it.

      Regulations are necessary especially when it's not directly interacting with a patient. Yes they are huge barriers to efficiency, granted, but healthcare is simply not a place the free market works at any level. The end result is not sales, it's literally life or death. Society simply does not tolerate that. Investors who get into healthcare and deceive themselves into thinking it is a free market deserve to lose their money. Politicians and pundits who try to reform healthcare towards "free market" are deceiving themselves and or the public, and deserve to be thrown out of their jobs hard. If they try to exempt themselves from such "free market" solutions while subjecting everyone else to it, they deserve literal crucifixion even if they do claim it's just a reconciliation loophole they'll totally close later.

    5. Re:Brilliant by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Insightful

      All regulations do. The fact that we don't document every regulation stifles innovation (And spurs innovation in other areas), we don't know exactly where the wash is.

      Every regulation takes from production, and transfers it to compliance.

      FYI, this is neither "good" nor "bad", it just is. Some regulations are needed, others just get in the way, duplicate other regulations, run counter to others etc. The fact that we rarely look at the consequences for regulations, and make adjustment, enhancements, and revoke so very few ineffective ones is my actual frustration in the whole process.

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  2. the problem... INVESTORS.... by starblazer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I bet you three fiddy that Silicon Valley wants to tackle these problems, but its the INVESTORS that control the pocketbooks of Silicon Valley that don't want to take the risk on. The long game, pfffft, what's that? Humanity? Pffft!

  3. Re:F*ck the poor by i_ate_god · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Because the US is a third world country.

    The modern countries on this planet provide health care instead of selling it.

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  4. The future is in offshore data processing by xtal · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The current situtation in healthcare is stupid.

    I sent my genome to a server in eastern europe to get a detailed health report because the FDA won't let 23andme present all of the information. Doctors are actively fighting this democratization of information. Fuck them.

    AI and machine learning have done a better job at diagnosis than humans for decades, but aren't widely used. WHY?

    Fuck the system. I will get the images, and the data - or sensors that I own will - and they will be processed outside of the reach of the FDA.

    Procedures? Medical tourism is a thing.

    Nobody has a more strongly vested interest in me being alive than..me.

    The internet is coming for medicine, the same way it came for software "sales", music, movies, and retail.

    What a time to be alive!

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    1. Re:The future is in offshore data processing by jeff4747 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I sent my genome to a server in eastern europe to get a detailed health report because the FDA won't let 23andme present all of the information.

      That's largely because the information 23andme wants to present has not been proven to be true.

      So....fuck the system for trying to prevent 23andme from lying to you, so that you don't go on a medical vacation to treat a disease you don't actually have.

      Makes perfect sense.

  5. Most startups seem focused on weeding out the weak by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most of the "health" startups seem focused on weeding out the weak, as in "let X voluntarily track your activities and single you out for unaffordable health premiums if you aren't young/healthy/kid-free enough to meet our wearable device targets." So yes, if it seems that the chronically ill are being pushed off the map, well it's by design.

  6. no, really by paiute · · Score: 3, Insightful

    " promising to focus on more at-risk groups once they've nailed the product"

    I totally believe you, pal.

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