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Apple Unveils What's Next For macOS Desktop OS: High Sierra (venturebeat.com)

Apple's next big macOS update is coming this fall, the company announced at its developer conference Monday. Apple is improving macOS Sierra, fixing bugs and making existing features and components faster and more reliable. The new version is called High Sierra. From a report: The update includes new features for Safari, with an update that stops autoplaying videos; Mail, with a new split-view mode; and Photos, with improved face detection, editing, and photo printing features. Apple is also bringing the Apple File System to Macs, after adding the technology to iOS in March. Apple is also bringing new virtual reality support to Macs with the Metal 2 framework.

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  1. All Apple-related posts for the rest of the day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Appleldot.

  2. Next macOS version by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 5, Funny

    The next version will allow Macs to connect to the Internet and will be called Sierra On-Line.

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    1. Re:Next macOS version by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Funny

      It will come with the game King's Quest pre-installed.

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    2. Re:Next macOS version by enjar · · Score: 2

      Leisure Suit Tim In The Land of the Coffee Shop Hipsters?

    3. Re:Next macOS version by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      on 128 floppy disks

    4. Re:Next macOS version by homes32 · · Score: 1

      Nonsense. Castle of Dr. Brain is a far superior per-install option and would allow for Apple to force you to solve one or more puzzles before being allowed to use the browser.

    5. Re:Next macOS version by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      I doubt more than a hand full of /. ers grasp what you are talking about ;D

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    6. Re:Next macOS version by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, those who don't are too busy learning the new API/framework/language-of-the-week.

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    7. Re:Next macOS version by RoverDaddy · · Score: 1

      I understand it, but I was actually hoping for a reference to the High SierraCD-ROM format.

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    8. Re:Next macOS version by mspohr · · Score: 1

      I recognize the reference but I'm 70 years old... doubt the young whippersnappers here would get it, though.

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  3. Anybody got a match? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    I was hoping for a Rocky Mountain High in this release of Mac OS. Just have to settle for Sierra High instead.

    1. Re:Anybody got a match? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Try this "Country" star ...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    2. Re:Anybody got a match? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Considering most of your posts miss entire words, you're in no position to criticize anyone!

      If a word can't keep up with the rest of my sentence, I probably didn't need that word in the first place.

  4. Remember when... by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    Remember when Apple announcements didn't make you want to yawn?

    The cool kids are busy playing with GCP these days, so as long you keep cranking out nice laptops to connect to that you'll probably still get a grand or so from me every few years, Apple.

    1. Re:Remember when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is comparable to the update from Lion to Mountain Lion, or to El Capitan from Yosemite (the park that encompasses El Capitan). Mountain Lion was a great OS due to its stability and the under-the-hood changes. I'd much rather have High Sierra be a stability and deep improvement release like Mountain Lion than a bunch of flashy jewjaws like more Messages Apps (that nobody actually uses).

      Hah Mountain what?, what a joke, they started bloating it way back, 10.6 was probably the most stable and complete OS X will ever be - as close to an LTS release model Apple ever got, now it's just a creature of almost pure feature creep and hardware obsoletion... It was nice for a while - a bit of BSD+GNU+POSIX+XNU+ just the right amount of Apple's arrogance and insanity sprinkled on top for some unification, around 10.6 that felt just about right... but now the insanity is taking centre stage and all previous technical advantages within a cushy UI are far outweighed, so back to ugly interfaces so I can regain some control and at least escape the cruft and madness.

    2. Re:Remember when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      > Remember when Apple announcements didn't make you want to yawn?

      No.

  5. Back to the Future by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess CD-ROMs will be making a comeback.

  6. High Sierra by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Having tried Sierra twice, followed by rolling back to El Capitan twice - I can only hope that High Sierra isn't a steaming pile of horse dung.

    However I think suspect they will continue to remove features and call it progress. E.g. Like how they're removing user's ability to have a keychain password which doesn't match the user's login password (per Apple's reply appended to a "won't fix" designation on a bug report submission). I sometimes wonder how much longer we're going to have a terminal.

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    1. Re:High Sierra by sexconker · · Score: 3

      What about removing the ability to install tons of applications because of the new system file protection/redirection/whatever bullshit?
      Hell, the last time I looked at a Sierra system, I couldn't get the built-in firewall to produce any sort of log.
      WTF are they doing?

    2. Re:High Sierra by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      WTF are they doing?

      When is the last time Apple made something amazing? Who would want to work there at this point?

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    3. Re:High Sierra by CODiNE · · Score: 1

      You can get what you want with a small change.

      I brought over keychain files from my previous OS and they still use the password from that system when I view those specific files. The MAIN keychain is the same as my login password though.

      Sounds like a great security issue tho. I'll add that check to my pen tests.

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  7. This bodes well by alispguru · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Especially for those of us who have fond memories of Snow Leopard. Back in the days when successive OSX releases made the system faster and more responsive, even on the same hardware.

    macOS could definitely use a mostly bug-fixes and performance improvements release. Windows is still the champ when it comes to flaky behavior and unintelligible errors, but macOS has been drifting in that direction over the last few releases.

    Scrape the weird stuff off of Preview and Mail, and I will strongly consider an iMac Pro.

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    1. Re:This bodes well by Kryptonut · · Score: 2

      I can back you up on that. Using Windows 10 at work and at home, and it's rock solid.

      To be fair I run OS X El Capitan, and Debian Linux too and they're also rock solid.

      In fact....if you're not using obscure hardware or loading your machine up with crap, chances are, you won't have problems. Load a Mac up with similar crap to what some Windows home users do, you'll have stability issues on your Mac too. These days, operating systems themselves are generally alright until you load crapware and dodgy drivers on top of them.

    2. Re:This bodes well by antdude · · Score: 1

      And better hardwares like 32 GB of RAM, etc.

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  8. apple testes for that now by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    apple testes for that now

    1. Re:apple testes for that now by sconeu · · Score: 1

      That takes some balls to do...

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  9. Re:Bogart buys it in that one by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    I predict the subsequent version of macOS will be named "The Petrified Forest". ... They'll be running with Bogie-themed OS names for the next six or seven years.

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  10. Great! Now we just need computers to run it on. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Why do I have to run macOS on a Hackintosh to get modern hardware?

    1. Re:Great! Now we just need computers to run it on. by Kryptonut · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hey, my 2008 octocore xeon Mac Pro with 32GB RAM & Samsung 850 Evo SSD's apparently isn't good enough to run new versions of macOS either, lol.

      Runs Windows 10 great though. And OS X El Capitan when I need it.

  11. High Sierra Format by tepples · · Score: 2

    If anyone doesn't get the joke: High Sierra is also the name of an early version of the ISO 9660 file system used for CDs.

    1. Re:High Sierra Format by antdude · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I didn't get the joke until I read your comment and link. :)

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    2. Re:High Sierra Format by michael.karl.coleman · · Score: 1

      It's okay. We won't think any worse of you than we do of Apple's marketing department...

  12. Re:All Apple-related posts for the rest of the day by Altus · · Score: 4, Informative

    Its almost as if there were some big event... perhaps even a world wide conference of some kind... that was going on today and regarded apple technology. If only I could find some information about it....

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  13. Rolled all the good puns in to that announcement.. by jazzdude00021 · · Score: 1

    Actual quotes from the keynote:

    "So [the marketing team] hopped in their minibus and headed out...."

    “We talked to [the marketing team] and we said that the name might be misconstrued, but they assured us this idea is fully baked.”

    To be blunt, I'm not sure what to expect out of the new OS. They've rolled some good ideas into it, but can it live up to the hype or are they just blowing smoke?

  14. Horrible Naming Scheme by Zaurus · · Score: 1, Interesting
    1. Re:Horrible Naming Scheme by sconeu · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, High Sierra is a steal...

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    2. Re:Horrible Naming Scheme by Zaurus · · Score: 1

      Hehehehe. Wasn't aware of that movie, thanks.

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  16. Re:Rolled all the good puns in to that announcemen by Megane · · Score: 1

    Maybe if they put enough light on new features, they could nip rumors in the bud and grow an operating system good enough for us to leaf previous versions.

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  17. ...with an update that stops autoplaying videos. by DidgetMaster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While they are at it, how about a browser option that prevents the advertisements from playing at 5x the sound volume of your regular streaming video?

  18. Re:Bogart buys it in that one by sconeu · · Score: 1

    We need macOS Sierra Madre, just so we don't need no steenkin' badges to run the OS.

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  19. Re:...with an update that stops autoplaying videos by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

    I always have my browser muted unless there's something I explicitly want to hear. I just don't want to hear any ads or noises at all unless it's of my own volition.

  20. Re:Bogart buys it in that one by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    Watches? We ain't got no watches. We don't need no watches. I don't have to show you any stinkin' watches!

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  21. An Apple a day by AndyKron · · Score: 1, Funny

    An Apple a day keeps your savings away.

  22. Re:The final version of Sierra will be called ... by Matt · · Score: 1

    Sierra Madre !

    Upgrades?

    We don't need no steekin' upgrades!

    (Still running Mavericks.)

  23. Re:Rolled all the good puns in to that announcemen by I+kan+Spl · · Score: 1

    I will now be very disappointed if the default background isn't a HDR HIDPI 35MB RAW picture of a very specific plant.

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  24. Re:VR by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Plug in the VR and the gpu.

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  25. Re:Rolled all the good puns in to that announcemen by jazzdude00021 · · Score: 1

    Honestly, at this point the speculations are a bit green. Apple is just beginning the process of weeding out the issues that stem from rolling such a major update. We won't know if its good until they can pass around a version for the rest of us to try. It still won't keep the die-hard users from getting toked up over the prospect of a new strain.