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The Public Is Growing Tired of Trump's Tweets, Says Voter Survey (arstechnica.com)

President Donald Trump is the tweeting president. His @realDonaldTrump handle has 31.8 million followers and "35K" tweets. While the president claims to use Twitter to "get the honest and unfiltered message out," many Americans aren't so fond of his favored form of communication. According to a new voter poll (PDF), the public is growing tired of Trump's tweets. Ars Technica reports: A Morning Consult, Politico survey published Wednesday found that 69 percent of voters who took the online survey said they thought Trump tweets too much. That's up from 56 percent from December, months before Trump took office. The survey said that 82 percent of Democrats polled thought Trump tweets too much, up from 75 percent in December. Republicans came in at 53 percent saying the president used Twitter too often, an 11-percent increase from December. Overall, 57 percent of voters who took the survey said Trump's tweets are hurting his presidency. Another 53 percent said his Twitter use undermines U.S. standing in the world. The poll found that 51 percent of all voters said Trump's tweets imperiled national security. What do you think of Trump's tweets? Do you think they are getting old, or do you find them particularly useful?

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  1. Maybe but... by burtosis · · Score: 5, Funny

    100% of late night comedians think he tweets just the right amount or not enough.

    1. Re:Maybe but... by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      100% of Saturday Night Live writers want Trump to increase the number of late night tweets, and would prefer it if he tweeted every waking moment of his presidency.

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    2. Re:Maybe but... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, they're mostly pissed off, because no matter how outrageous a scenario they dream up, Trump keeps topping them.

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    3. Re:Maybe but... by msauve · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not that he tweets too much, it's what he tweets. Twitter could be the modern fireside chat, except Trump has no sense of history, no communications skills, and no philosophical foundation for his political beliefs. He's more likely to have read John le Carre than John Locke.

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    4. Re:Maybe but... by retchdog · · Score: 3, Insightful

      and he's still not particularly likely to have read le Carre.

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    5. Re: Maybe but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Millennial here.

      Between my career and my family, I don't have time for tweeting.

    6. Re: Maybe but... by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

      I wonder who reads Trump's tweets at all, other than the mainstream media, who is really obsessed with him and should just go ahead and have sex with him.

      BTW millennial here as well. I sometimes use Twitter to participate in Amex promotions (i.e. $50 off $200 at breath l Newegg if you tweet their hashtag) but that's pretty much it.

    7. Re: Maybe but... by Darinbob · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The media has always been interested in whatever the current sitting president has to say. Even the most boring president ever becomes a news story just by saying something in public. So of course, if you have a twitterphiliac in office the press is going to be looking at them all.

      Now, someone in the white house administration says she doesn't want the media to obsess over the tweets. Trump on the other hand does indeed want the press and the public to to read every single tweet, it's the reason he tweets. He's not tweeting something private like "Honey, I'll be home late tonight", he's tweeting stuff he wants you to see.

      "Mom! It's private! Don't look at my twitter account!"

    8. Re:Maybe but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      > no communications skills

      The dude literally bullshitted his way to the presidency. He might not have a real foundation for his believes, but his communication and persuasion skills are top notch.

    9. Re:Maybe but... by eril · · Score: 2

      Nope. Never seen it. I;m at the point where tv, the internet, pretty much everything "virtual" is a poor value in return for time invested.

      ...says the guy reading and posting on Slashdot. Also, you come across like this guy:

      http://www.theonion.com/articl...

    10. Re:Maybe but... by argStyopa · · Score: 2

      "He's more likely to have read John le Carre than John Locke."
      And this is the sort of snide bullshit that illustrates why he resonates with voters, but the intelligentsia despises him.

      I've read both le Carre and Locke, and I'd agree, le Carre is a FUCKTON more readable.

      And frankly, I doubt Mr Trump reads. Much of anything. Again, putting him in the same camp as 90% of Americans.

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    11. Re: Maybe but... by lgw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The news media has been interested in every president, but it hasn't been this obsessed with a president since JFK, and perhaps not ever. CNN and MSNBC are, from what I can tell, 24/7 Trump coverage for the past 6 months. It's bizarre.

      Trumps tweets are equally bizarre in that they're honest, as far as I can tell. Honest in a "yes, honey, that dress does make you look fat because you're fat" kind of way (socially dysfunctional, but honest). An honest politician is so outside my experience that it's almost hallucinatory.

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    12. Re: Maybe but... by Darinbob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, they're also obsessing as Trump is the most bizarre president too. He coul be more honest with himself, in the sense that he needs to realize that he's not the super genius that he thinks he is and that it's not always a good idea to say out loud whatever random thought crossed his mind at the moment.

      Or as the saying goes, better to be quiet and let people think you're a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    13. Re:Maybe but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Personally, I'm more tired of the way the media covers EVERY SINGLE LITTLE LAST TWEET as if each one announces an Arab/Israeli Peace Deal. We get it, he doesn't fit the exacting perfect image every president before him portrayed. A few times, they got caught; like when bush called that reporter "a major league ass-hole", or when Obama said "What I was suggesting-you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith".

      The only difference is that this president doesn't seem to care about trying to portray himself one way or the other. Say all you want about Trump, but one thing is for certain, he doesn't shy away from who he really is.

    14. Re: Maybe but... by lgw · · Score: 2

      Oh, absolutely. He's pretty much the opposite of what one expects a politician to be. I'm still not sure that's a bad thing, because politicians are on the whole so very bad.

      But, c'mon CNN, there are other things happening in the world, some of them quite important.

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    15. Re: Maybe but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      While Trump dumb tweets like a maniac, the rest of the republicans sell parts of your country to the highest bidder and destroy the last shred of a social security system. And when you impeach Trump, you get Pence. The US is really fucked. Sorry.

    16. Re:Maybe but... by Xest · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yep, engaging in an online flame war with the Mayor of London for trying to reassure Londoners right after a terrorist attack really won us Brits over too, top notch communicator you have there. When we'd heard about how 48 people had been butchered, 8 of which were killed the first thing we thought was "You know what? It'd be great to hear Donald Trump's view on this, especially if he blames the Mayor of London and start slagging him off", so we're glad that he focus on a multi-day flame war, rather than just shut the fuck up or offer something nice, but obviously his mother failed as a parent and never taught him the adage that if you have nothing nice to say, then don't say anything at all.

      I'm engaging in British sarcasm here if you didn't get that. He's probably the worst communicator of any world leader I've ever seen because his comments are ill thought through, often barely literate, and usually just objectively wrong. He's basically on par with the rhetoric filled drivel that spills out of fat Kim's mouth over in North Korea.

      All hail King Covfefe, king of the uncommunicators.

    17. Re:Maybe but... by schleimkeim · · Score: 2

      and would prefer it if he tweeted every waking moment of his presidency

      I'm pretty sure he already does.

    18. Re:Maybe but... by Lennie · · Score: 2

      He only reads the words he can fit in his hands.

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    19. Re:Maybe but... by Lennie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      People were and still are desperate and wanted something else than the establishment. With a lot of help from other people in his campaign he didn't mess up enough. And these people who voted for him clearly didn't believe someone would lie this much. Or most lilkely were desperate enough to have selective hearing. When trump said one thing one moment and an other an other moment they would say: ohh, he doesn't mean that about the second thing, because they like the first. That's not very rational.

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    20. Re:Maybe but... by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It still is better to shut up and let people think you're a stuck-up asshole than to open your mouth and remove any shade of doubt.

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    21. Re:Maybe but... by gtall · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Worse than either of them would be Pence. Pence could rally the Republicans in Congress to do serious damage whereas el Presidente Tweetie is too busy inhaling nitrous oxide in the hopes of inflating his ego just a bit more. And the end of a Pence presidency, he'd lead a Republican congress in prayer sessions to take away the last shred of freedom in the U.S.

    22. Re: Maybe but... by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Ok. You're a millennial or you have a family and a career. You can't have both.

      Stop breaking the stereotype we've cultivated so hard!

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    23. Re: Maybe but... by gtall · · Score: 2

      Well, the news media is interested in selling ads. The stupider the tweets from el Presidente Tweetie the better for them as more people will view whatever the ads are promoting. Saying they are obsessed with el Presidente Tweetie is a misdirection, they are obsessed with turning ad profits.

    24. Re: Maybe but... by gtall · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Trump honest with himself? Do you realize how odd that sounds? He's shown he's incapable of distinguishing what he wants to believe from what is true. The concept of being honest with himself simply doesn't apply for people like him.

    25. Re:Maybe but... by Maritz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Say all you want about Trump, but one thing is for certain, he doesn't shy away from who he really is.

      Trump has no fucking clue who he really is. All he knows is that he's the fucking greatest.

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    26. Re:Maybe but... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Shouldn't you try to get the best leader possible, rather than one who is extremely average? The average person probably wouldn't be a very good POTUS, like they wouldn't make a great rocket scientist or brain surgeon because, as Trump has discovered, those jobs are hard. Who knew, as he did actually say.

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    27. Re:Maybe but... by Maritz · · Score: 2

      This is what good communicators do. You have to because most people can't understand those big words you like so much.

      If you want a president that uses big words and logic, take the vote away from everyone except white landowners. There has been a clear trend towards anti-intellectualism in place since the scum of the earth and the women (who think with their big dumb hearts) were given the vote.

      Impressive distance covered here. All the way from "decent observation" to "I'm a cunt"

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    28. Re:Maybe but... by Maritz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You can rage all you want, you Brits are getting slaughtered. Welcome to the world of properly worded political correctness and Genocide.

      Bla bla, more people choke on fucking pen caps. Golf clap for the perpetually fearful such as you. Terrorists only exist because people who are cowed by them like you exist.

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    29. Re:Maybe but... by Maritz · · Score: 2

      I think that Kim's comunication skills are much better that that of the Orange One (Not talking about the King of The Netherlands here)

      I'm willing to bet that Kim Jong Un knows 'bigly' isn't a word.

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    30. Re:Maybe but... by Vince+Ferg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But the thing is if people really wanted something like that there was another choice, Bernie Sanders was basically the equivalent of trump in the sense of turning everything upside down but without the 100 scandal stories that followed him or the money. I almost feel as if the majority of people in this nation really believe that if someone has money that means they were very successful and to be that successful they must be really really smart! The American people really make no sense to me and I am 1 of them who still to this day wonder how people in this nation pick the candidates they pick because if they actually took 15 minutes to look at his life, and career, OR even listening to any number of the campaign speeches he made over the year of campaigning they should have seen clear as day this guy is a fucking nightmare who has never and will never care for the people he claims to care for. And here we are...

    31. Re:Maybe but... by Flea+of+Pain · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "The President of the Universe holds no real power. His sole purpose is to take attention away from where the power truly exists."

      I used to agree, then I saw how many people he screwed with his 'Muslim ban', the industries he has thrown for a loop with his tweets, the pulling out of climate accords basically unilaterally, and I'm now amazed at how much power you put in the hands of one man.

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    32. Re: Maybe but... by tehcyder · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Trumps tweets are equally bizarre in that they're honest, as far as I can tell. Honest in a "yes, honey, that dress does make you look fat because you're fat" kind of way (socially dysfunctional, but honest).

      They're more like saying "that dress does make you look fat" to a stick thin model because you have body image issues yourself.

      They don't agree with reality, but no doubt accurately reflect what's in Trump's own mind.

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    33. Re:Maybe but... by Tesen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Worse than either of them would be Pence. Pence could rally the Republicans in Congress to do serious damage whereas el Presidente Tweetie is too busy inhaling nitrous oxide in the hopes of inflating his ego just a bit more. And the end of a Pence presidency, he'd lead a Republican congress in prayer sessions to take away the last shred of freedom in the U.S.

      No, they are already doing serious damage. The Financial Choice Act is one act they are going to try and sneak through the house during the Comey testimony today. Trump is the perfect distraction for them to push crap through. If anything Trump is going to help them sneak stuff through, now whether they are re-elected is a different story, but if they sneak through the garbage they want to then the people that are paying them off to push this garbage will make sure they are rewarded.

    34. Re:Maybe but... by kilfarsnar · · Score: 2

      "He's more likely to have read John le Carre than John Locke." And this is the sort of snide bullshit that illustrates why he resonates with voters, but the intelligentsia despises him.

      I've heard this before, that people voted for Trump because they felt slighted and disrespected. If that's true, it really doesn't speak well of those voters. They feel disrespected, so they vote in an obvious moron and charlatan? What, do they think they're sticking it to the man? Do they think making such a foolish and petulant choice will somehow gain them more respect? And those of us who could see who he really was are supposed to somehow feel bad about that?

      People can certainly be arrogant and condescending, and I'm not going to defend that. But the proper reaction to such behavior is not to say, "You think I'm stupid? I'll show you stupid!"

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    35. Re:Maybe but... by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      "He's more likely to have read John le Carre than John Locke." And this is the sort of snide bullshit that illustrates why he resonates with voters, but the intelligentsia despises him.

      I've read both le Carre and Locke, and I'd agree, le Carre is a FUCKTON more readable.

      And frankly, I doubt Mr Trump reads. Much of anything. Again, putting him in the same camp as 90% of Americans.

      Call me old fashioned, but I want my head of state to be more intelligent than 90% of the population. If you can just have any Joe Below-Average doing the job, you might as well have a random annual lottery for the post.

      Here in the UK, we've had some appalling, unpleasant and useless leaders in the past fifty years, but as far as I remember none of them were actually thick like Trump.

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    36. Re: Maybe but... by gnick · · Score: 2

      It wasn't this way for Obama...

      Obama wasn't as hungry for headlines as DJT. Or as publically colorful. Part of why he's in the news so much is that he WANTS to be. Ratings are like crack for that man. Besides being an unfiltered look into his brain, I believe that he makes his Tweets intentionally inflammatory because he can't live without attention.

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    37. Re:Maybe but... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      yes. More people does from all sorts of things. I heard the met were considering installing concrete barriers on roads. Naturally cyclists are complaining because they're dangerous. the moronic reply is "we have more important things to worry about"

      No we fucking don't. More cyclists die per year in London than terrorists kill, even this year never mind all the others.

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    38. Re: Maybe but... by gnick · · Score: 2

      But, c'mon CNN, there are other things happening in the world, some of them quite important.

      I'm not sure CNN wants to spend as much time on DJT's Tweets as it does, but many of them are interesting to the public for whatever reason, so they get covered. If Obama had made a habit of issuing inappropriate Tweets every week, I'm confident that CNN would have covered those too. On top of that, I believe that DJT wants them covered and crafts them accordingly. The man feeds off of ratings and needs constant attention to survive. He's happy when his Tweets get covered even if it's negative.

      A lot of the time, it's making a mountain out of covfefe. Other times, it's real news with real implications. E.g. "Obama tapped my phones!"

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  2. They're very useful by vadim_t · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He does great at sabotaging his own schemes. It's really great that he lacks a filter.

    I would love to be a fly on the wall on his lawyers' office. It's got to have a thick covering of hair of all over the floor.

    1. Re:They're very useful by E-Rock · · Score: 2

      His public statements (including tweets) are being used against him in the travel ban court proceedings. They're being used to show what they really intending and undercutting their legal arguments.
      http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/legal-experts-trump-travel-ban-twitter-hurting-47855873

      While not a tweet, he's also screwed himself on the Comey firing when his press office rolled out a bullshit story about how he was fired on the advice of the attorney general's office, but then told a reporter that he was going to fire him anyway because of the Russia investigation.

    2. Re:They're very useful by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Which of his own schemes has he sabotaged?

      A few examples:

      1. Trump fired the FBI director for reasons that appeared to be tantamount to obstruction of justice. His staff defended his actions, and said the reasons for Comey's firing had nothing to do with the Russia probe. Then Trump tweeted that he did indeed fire Comey for the exact reasons that his staff had denied.

      2. Trump outed an Israeli intelligence asset in Assad's inner circle by blabbing to the Russians about it. Several of his staff said they were in the meeting at the time, and no such information had been discussed. Trump then cut them off at the knees by saying that he did indeed blab to the Russians during the meeting, and that he had a right to do so (and legally, the president probably does have the right to betray an ally).

      In these tweets he admitted to actions that were at the least stupid, and possibly criminal, but were also incredibly disloyal to subordinates that went out on a limb to lie to the American people in an attempt to defend him.

    3. Re:They're very useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, they are trying to use them against him but it makes no difference. The ABC report is highly unobjective and almost purely speculation. In reality its a big nothing that nobody cares about and has 0% chance of causing him any real legal issues.

      Firtly and correctly not a tweet. So now your grasping at straws. Additionally he hasn't screwed himself in the slightest. He is allowed to fire someone on the advice of the AG office AND still have had plans to fire Comey at a later date. This isnt the twilight zone, both of those scenarios are not mutually exclusive, both of those scenarios are not even unlikely. There is no legal or political fall out from this. Comeys statement today has been a big fat nothing and actually confirms that trump was telling the truth about the non investigation. Outside of the small minority of brain washed libtards these are all good outcomes for Trump.

    4. Re:They're very useful by grcumb · · Score: 2

      In these tweets he admitted to actions that were at the least stupid, and possibly criminal, but were also incredibly disloyal to subordinates that went out on a limb to lie to the American people in an attempt to defend him.

      Since when is the top man of ANY hierarchical organization required to behave in accordance with his subordinates' supposed wishes?? Trump is the President of the United States. He is the chief executive of everyone in this country.

      You're missing the point. His staff were lying to cover his ass, because to say that he pressured the director of the FBI to lay off a case, and then fired him when he wouldn't—for any reason whatsoever—puts him at risk of being prosecuted for obstruction of justice. Then Donald Trump undid all of their efforts by saying that he did exactly that.

      And you may say Donald Trump is the top man in the hierarchy—even if pretty much every student of government ever would argue about checks and balances and how tripartate government (legislative, executive and judicial) are coequal, and for damn good reason—but if we grant that he is the Chief Executive in the business sense of the word, he is still not above the law. No one is.

      Obstruction of justice is a serious offense no matter who does it. The gravity of the crime gets worse, not better, as you rise in the hierarchy. His staff were culpable for lying in his defence. He is wide open to prosecution for his statements.

      And a legal nit for those who want to rebut this with the argument that he has the authority to give instructions to anyone in government, any time. Yes, he has the legal right to do so, but that doesn't mean that obstruction of justice didn't occur. Motive, the question of who benefits, and whether he was successful or not in actually obstructing the course of justice are all immaterial to a court of law to the determination of whether someone is guilty of obstruction or not. If you tried to gum up the works to keep a case from moving forward, you're guilty. Even if you used legal means to do so.

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    5. Re:They're very useful by jeti · · Score: 2

      The spy was placed with ISIS, not Assad.

    6. Re:They're very useful by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

      Trump did the morally right thing to do, and for that I respect him as a leader even more.

      The morally right thing to do would have been to fire the liars. Trump didn't do that. He fired Comey ... for refusing to lie.

  3. Survey? Please! by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    What do the Twitter stats say?

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  4. The tweets are useful and helpful by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am getting to know better the person who is in the Oval Office. I feel as if he is talking directly to me, instead of being filtered by some media outlet.

  5. Questionable by kqc7011 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is a Politico poll, a known opponent of Trump. So one must see the questions, how they were presented and what the audience makeup was. Before giving any validity to the polling data.

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    1. Re:Questionable by RyoShin · · Score: 5, Informative

      Okie dokie, here ya go. Table POL17 starting page 164, I included select "conservative" breakdowns to give a better idea of potential bias.
      Do you think President Donald Trump uses Twitter
      Demographic | Too much | Not enough | About the right amount | Don’t Know / No Opinion | Total N
      Registered Voters | 69%(1372) | 4%(79) | 15%(308) | 12%(241) |1999
      PID: Rep (no lean) | 53%(361) | 6%(38) | 30%(205) | 11%(77) | 681
      Ideo: Conservative (5-7) | 57%(394) | 4%(25) | 28%(194) | 11%(75) | 689
      2016 Vote: Republican Donald Trump | 51%(400) | 6%(50) | 30%(240) | 13%(101) | 791
      Strongly Approve | 39%(161) | 8%(35) | 42%(176) | 10%(43) | 415
      Somewhat Approve | 58%(267) | 4%(18) | 20%(94) | 18%(84) | 462

      BONUS! Table POL18, starting page 167.
      And, do you think President Donald Trump’s use of Twitter is (POL18)
      Demographic | A good thing | A bad thing | Don’t Know / No Opinion | Total N
      Registered Voters | 23%(456) | 59%(1172) | 19%(372) | 1999

      I leave the breakdowns as an exercise for the reader. (This formatting brought to you by the characters /.)

    2. Re:Questionable by lucm · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This poll has the same bias as the ones that made all the mainstream medias look like idiots on election night. People tell the poller what they think they want to hear. If everything people hear on TV and read in the newspaper is "Trump and his tweets", they're not going to defend him when they get polled about it, no matter what they think.

      All you can tell from these results is what people answered, not what they think.

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    3. Re: Questionable by KGIII · · Score: 2

      Polls don't tell you what people think. They tell you which of the limited answers they feel comfortable choosing.

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  6. Useful by whoever57 · · Score: 2

    What do you think of Trump's tweets? Do you think they are getting old, or do you find them particularly useful?

    Definitely useful. He continues to sabotage his own plans by revealing his true motives and incompetence.

    The other week, the "Word of the day" in Words with Friends was "Covfefe".

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  7. Just proves democrats aren't that smart by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Trump keeps making a fool of himself. Why would anyone opposed to his agenda want to muzzle him? Even with both feet in his mouth, he keeps proving that his mental faculties are questionable, that he doesn't understand how the real world works. and that Republicans nominated and elected the worst-qualified president in history.

    The Saudis are now laughing at how easily he was manipulated.

    Even William Henry Harrison, the 9th president, had a better first 100 days in office, and he died after one month.

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    1. Re:Just proves democrats aren't that smart by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

      Well, the US as a whole DOES look like an idiot. Remember Pottery Barn - "You broke it, you buy it." It was the US as a whole that gave rise to the conditions that got Trump elected. Now maybe you'll have the gumption to clean house and get rid of the ignorance that allows people like Trump to flourish, starting with the growing financial inequality, the willingness to spread ignorance and fake news for profit without holding people to account, moving towards a public healthcare system that lets all citizens feel that "we have your back" instead of being disenfranchised, reining in the insane education bubble and the even worse education debt bubble, the christian extremists, the gun nuts, etc.

      But since it's guaranteed that won't happen, China will increasingly be THE world power.

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  8. I think they are great! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They have been particularly good at exposing how petty, dimwitted, bigoted and foolish he is, not just as a president but as a person. I think it's important for people to understand just kind of a person they vote for, even if it's after the fact.

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  9. Re:That was fast by jedidiah · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am quite willing to attack the data as biased garbage designed to generate the desired result.

    IAAFP ( Iam a former pollster).

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  10. Totally agree by PatientZero · · Score: 2

    In the same way that an STD test saying you have syphilis is useful. :p

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    I guess the War on Terror really is about freedom!
  11. Could not care less by willoughby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    However, I am fed up with the foaming-at-the-mouth, frantic, OMG! reaction of the US news media to every tweet. Let President Trump Tweet away and shut down the news coverage of every tweet & I'd be happy.

    1. Re:Could not care less by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      However, I am fed up with the foaming-at-the-mouth, frantic, OMG! reaction of the US news media to every tweet.

      Why? They are official statements. The foaming-at-the-mouth, frantic, OMG! reaction is because of how incredibly misinformed and dangerous most of his official statements are.

      I figure you must not live in the U.S. to be fed-up with that reaction. For the rest of us, it's incredibly concerning. (Well, the rest of us, except for Okian Warrior, because that glib son of a bitch has been drowning in his own smug before the election.)

  12. Wrong by bistromath007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People are getting tired of media coverage of Trump's tweets. Only insane nobody blue checks are paying attention to his actual tweets.

  13. They're very useful - agreed. by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He does great at sabotaging his own schemes. It's really great that he lacks a filter.

    I would love to be a fly on the wall on his lawyers' office. It's got to have a thick covering of hair of all over the floor.

    And while everyone is running around with their hair on fire over "covfefe" and his other tweets, he's been quietly getting his agenda done.

    For an example, Jeff Sessions rolled back the Obama-era drug sentencing guidelines, resulting in the harshest possible sentences for drug offenders... which went almost unnoticed by the MSM.

    Trump withdrew from the Paris accord, and Covfefe was the more searched term than Paris Climate Agreement.

    Your side thinks he sabotages his schemes by these tweets.

    The rest of us know (and Trump himself knows) that the tweets are meaningless and valueless in and of themselves, but they distract the MSM from what is really going on, and in a way that makes the left look like gibbering imbeciles.

    He's been doing this since about *a year* prior to the election, and your side hasn't caught on even yet!

    1. Re:They're very useful - agreed. by hondo77 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And while everyone is running around with their hair on fire over "covfefe" and his other tweets, he's been quietly getting his agenda done.

      What agenda is that? All he's managed to do is undo some of Obama's executive actions. Healthcare? Nada. Border wall? Nope. Travel ban? Nuh uh.

      And what's this "quietly" thing? Trump doesn't do anything quietly. He can't even go to the bathroom in the middle of the night without tweeting something nonsensical (e.g. covfefe).

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    2. Re:They're very useful - agreed. by SirSlud · · Score: 3, Informative

      which went almost unnoticed by the MSM.

      Depends which MSM you're talking about. Everyone but Fox covered it, which is pretty much what you'd expect.

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    3. Re:They're very useful - agreed. by quantaman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The rest of us know (and Trump himself knows) that the tweets are meaningless and valueless in and of themselves, but they distract the MSM from what is really going on, and in a way that makes the left look like gibbering imbeciles.

      He's been doing this since about *a year* prior to the election, and your side hasn't caught on even yet!

      Has Trump tweeted as a distraction? Definitely, there's some evidence that he was deliberately doing outrageous things to grab media attention during the primary.

      But for the most part Trump is usually Tweeting nonsense and usually involved in policy actions that are really bad news, that the two often coincide isn't by design, it's just math.

      But this image of Trump as some brilliant schemer who plays the fool is nonsense.

      There's a model of Trump that does a really good job of explaining pretty much everything he's done.

      1) He's a pure bullshitter, you talk to him and he'll tell you everything you want to hear, regardless of its connection to reality.

      2) He has an extremely short attention span. He doesn't know the first thing about major policy issues because he can't dedicate sufficient attention to understand them. This also makes him impulsive because he can't resist the instant gratification of saying (or tweeting) something stupid. (This may not apply to real estate or certain aspects of business that do genuinely interest him, but I don't have sufficient information for that.)

      3) He has no ideals. His only reason for running for President was to do well in the primary (and then the general election). He probably doesn't have a single policy he wouldn't flip if you surrounded him with the right set of advisors. And because he doesn't have ideals he evaluates people through extremely shortsighted personal measures, like choosing personal loyalty over competence and adherence to duty.

      4) He is at least partially aware of 1-3, and he's extremely insecure about it.

      That really is about all there is to Trump and it was pretty obvious from the start.

      The relevance of the Tweets is they show his current train of thought, and because of his impulsiveness that train of though can turn into policy.

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    4. Re:They're very useful - agreed. by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Your comments would be more relevant if his tweets were nonsensical and off topic, but they aren't. They are actively self-destructive to things currently going on in his administration.

      e.g. Trump make travel ban, courts strike it down. Trump makes second travel ban, courts strike it down. Court case starts where Trumps side's well paid lawyers spends a lot of time arguing how it is not a travel ban to get what Trump wanted through the system. Trump tweets that lawyers are circlejerking and that people should call it what it is: "a travel ban".

      This is just one example of many where his administration has actively fought fires he himself has lit, only for Trump to come up from behind and pour a gallon of fuel over it to help it keep burning.

      The fact that covfefe is more searched than the climate agreement is not evidence of anything to the contrary. It's just evidence that people are disheartened with bullshit and find relief in clinging on to the endless comedy that comes out of his administration. Laughing as a coping mechanism. I wish George Doubelwya had a twitter addiction. I still look through my calendar of Bushism and laugh despite the damage he did to the world.

  14. They're awful by mr100percent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Trump's tweets are awful, they embarrass America, they embarrass himself, they are tremendously unprofessional and demean the office he occupies. Republicans used to fume that Obama "demeaned" the office by not wearing an acceptable suit in the White House, yet let this guy act like a buffoon and with awful language? Please.

    As much I love watching Trump self-destruct his own administration's policies with his tweets and his big mouth, demolish his own court cases because he can't help blurting things out on Twitter, and watching Sean Spicer and his staff try to twist themselves into logical knots trying to explain that Trump never makes mistakes or that those typos were just new words he invented intentionally, it's exhausting and at some point we have to stop him before he wrecks the office of president for good.

  15. None at all by markdavis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >" What do you think of Trump's tweets? Do you think they are getting old, or do you find them particularly useful?"

    I don't have a Twitter account and don't read ANY tweets. Probably not the answer expected. Generally, I don't understand why people are attracted to that form of "communication".

  16. Re:A valid comparison by rahvin112 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Imagine if we had this kind of wall-to-wall negative coverage of Obama

    I have no problem imagining it, I witnessed it. According to Fox News and every conservative media outlet he was the worst president in history and every single thing he did was the worst and most awful thing ever including things like trying to improve nutrition in schools.

    That alone make the entire rest of your comment not even worth reading.Obama was treated worse than an president in history by the press, did you see him complaining as vociferously and stupidly as Trump does? You didn't because he's a fucking adult, not a man baby.

  17. Nope by JBMcB · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't pay attention to them, nor news stories about them. Didn't pay any attention to Obama's tweets, either. I also don't pay attention to rumors, hearsay, and "sources report" stories, which seem to be roughly 75% of reports about Trump.

    I do pay attention to policy matters, and laws being enacted. A lot of it is bad. Some of it is good.

    And so it goes.

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  18. Trump covfefe investigation expanded to new AF by WaffleMonster · · Score: 4, Funny

    [waffle@krusteaz ~]$ ping6 www.whitehouse.gov
    PING www.whitehouse.gov(2600:1406:13:28a::c0:fefe) 56 data bytes
    64 bytes from 2600:1406:13:28a::c0:fefe: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=13.9 ms
    64 bytes from 2600:1406:13:28a::c0:fefe: icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 time=12.8 ms
    64 bytes from 2600:1406:13:28a::c0:fefe: icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 time=18.4 ms
    64 bytes from 2600:1406:13:28a::c0:fefe: icmp_seq=4 ttl=56 time=12.3 ms
    64 bytes from 2600:1406:13:28a::c0:fefe: icmp_seq=5 ttl=56 time=19.5 ms
    64 bytes from 2600:1406:13:28a::c0:fefe: icmp_seq=6 ttl=56 time=13.7 ms
    64 bytes from 2600:1406:13:28a::c0:fefe: icmp_seq=7 ttl=56 time=12.9 ms
    ^C
    --- www.whitehouse.gov ping statistics ---
    7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 6007ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 12.398/13.618/19.594/2.710 ms

  19. Yup - district court judges by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 2

    Your side thinks he sabotages his schemes by these tweets.

    You mean District Court Judges?

    The tweets were used by the judges as justification to override his executive order - that's true.

    At the same time, that justification was roundly decried as being inappropriate material to make a judicial decision on.

    So sure, you could look at it as sabotaging his plans, but you could also look at it as cementing his case with the supreme court. It was highly likely that the District Court Judges would have overridden his orders anyway, but by using the tweets as justification it looks like partisan partiality.

    And in any event, the issue isn't decided yet, since it's going to the supreme court.

  20. Re:Non Compos Mentis by Boronx · · Score: 2

    Probably because he also represents the nation.

  21. Re:That was fast by RyoShin · · Score: 3, Informative

    What's more, the recent "polls are bad" meme comes from the run-up to the 2016 election when polls showed Clinton winning, and then obviously did not. Polls are, in general, an estimate of opinion, and in that regard they were correct: in the final weeks her numbers were only decent, suggesting it would be a solid win but not a landslide, and in the end she did win the popular vote by approx 3 million.

    What the pundits got wrong (which seemed a problem more with interpretation of polls than the polls themselves) was the distribution of that support, the actual likelihood of supporters to vote (vs. self-reported), or both, which is how Trump won the electoral vote (and, in the end, that's the only one that matters for choosing the President.)

  22. Maybe the public has grown tired of the reporting by PJ6 · · Score: 2

    of said tweets.

    I would be pleased as punch if I never had to listen to another story about a tweet from anyone, ever.

  23. The same people by Orgasmatron · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The same people who told you Trump had a 2% chance of winning now give you his approval polls. Proceed accordingly.

    https://i.redd.it/ujkzkpr6jf1z...

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    1. Re:The same people by Orgasmatron · · Score: 2

      Actually, I think they are very good at both things, which are really the same thing. The general rule is that if you are reading a poll in the press, it was not designed to learn something, but to sell something. The accurate polls are the internal polls, the ones that the campaigns use to target their volunteers - the ones you never see the results from.

      So the people who carefully crafted polls that would show everyone that Trump had no chance to win in 2016 are now carefully crafting polls to push a wedge between his supporters and Republicans up for re-election in 2018. When that fails, they'll switch to polls showing that he has no chance of reelection in 2020.

      If you don't understand this process, you probably spent too much time letting the fake news tell you what you wanted to hear, and not enough time researching how polling is actually conducted in the real world. The good news is that it isn't too late. You can still, if you choose to do so, head over to your favorite search engine and read as much as you can stand to about how the sausage is made.

      Or you can start practicing now for your next crying video. You are going to be making a lot of them if you keep letting the fake news get your hopes up.

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  24. At this point, I think he tweets.... by mark-t · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... because he's running the country like a reality tv show and trying to boost his own ratings.

    I can just hear him saying if he were asked to tone it down: "Why should I stop tweeting? Millions of people love my tweets, so they are really very popular. The people voted me in for president, and millions of people want to see what I'm going to tweet next, because you never know what I'll say or do next, and the people just love that about me! Are you sure your sources suggesting I tweet too often aren't fake news? Maybe I should tweet about that next."

  25. Strategy? by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can't believe people actually attribute strategy to this guy.

    You mean despite winning the election, being a multi-billionaire, being a successful TV star, having a gorgeous wife who's also smart, raising well-mannered kids, and having a cohesive, loving family?

    He got all of that without having any strategy - is that what you're saying?

    1. Re:Strategy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I can't believe people actually attribute strategy to this guy.

      You mean despite winning the election, being a multi-billionaire, being a successful TV star, having a gorgeous wife who's also smart, raising well-mannered kids, and having a cohesive, loving family?

      He got all of that without having any strategy - is that what you're saying?

      Yes. He managed to get richer from his initial silver spoon in a rising NY real estate market that lifted all boats. (The Economist showed that he did much worse than average in that market, however.) Outside of that, his record is very spotty with three bankruptcies carefully isolated from his personal wealth. As to his "cohesive, loving family" I take it you are picturing the image of his third wife and writing off the others? Do you really think she has any interest beyond his money? She isn't even living with him any more...

  26. Let My President twaddle by mnemotronic · · Score: 3, Funny

    I say let Donnie tweet. He's fulfilling his destiny, plus doing the only stuff he's good at -- shameless self-aggrandizement, fanning the flames of hatred, intolerance and fear. and demonstrating an awesome ability to misdirect the limited attention of the American public. He is the reincarnation of PT Barnum.
    Is it harming his presidency? I don't know. Twitter has nothing to do with this -- it's Trump's own ability to shoot himself in the foot then cut off someone else's leg & keep on dancing. Is he damaging the office and image of the POTUS? Possibly. More than Bill Clinton did? Tough call. More will be revealed. Is he making America look like a bunch of feuding siblings? I would argue that non-conciliatory congressional cliques like the Freedom Caucus and Tea Partiers have already driven a wedge between Americans and demonstrated that hatred, intolerance, lack of compassion and disrespect is the American social contract of the future. The governed have take up these arms to attack friends, neighbors and family. Is Trump imperiling national security? Sure seems like it from here, But again, he's just doing what he's good at. Let him be. America will be great -- a great bonfire. Trumps just pouring on the gas.

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  27. Useful by nospam007 · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's a nice tool for his dementia doctors to judge how his brain slowly disintegrates.