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Does Silicon Valley Need More Labor Unions? (salon.com)

Salon recently talked to Jeffrey Buchanan, who two years ago co-founded a labor rights group "that highlights the plight of security officers, food-service workers, janitors and shuttle-bus drivers in the region." An anonymous reader quotes their report: The situation among Silicon Valley's low-wage contract workers has become so perilous that in January, thousands of security guards working at immensely profitable companies like Facebook and Cisco followed the shuttle-bus drivers and voted to unionize in an effort to collectively bargain for higher wages and better benefits. The upcoming labor contract negotiations between the roughly 3,000 security guards (represented by SEIU United Service Workers West) and their employers is one of the biggest developments in Silicon Valley labor organizing to happen this year. Buchanan says there's also a broader push this year to get tech companies to be proactive in ensuring these workers can make ends meet, even if these companies have to pay more for the services they procure...

A paper published last year by University of California at Santa Cruz researchers Chris Brenner and Kyle Neering estimates between 19,000 and 39,000 contracted service workers are employed in the Valley at any given time... An additional 78,000 workers are at risk of becoming contract employees, according to the study, a number which includes administrative assistants, sales representatives and medium-wage computer programmers. This is part of a larger societal shift in which salaried workers are converted to contractors -- a transition that benefits business owners, in that they don't have to pay benefits and can hire and fire contractors at will.

Buchanan's group represents contractors typically earning "as little as $20,000 a year." But Salon's headline argues that "programmers may be next" in the drive to organize contractors.

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  1. What silicon valley needs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is more housing projects so that prices sink to a bearable level.

  2. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    The headline asked a question, the answer is obviously "No".

    1. Re: No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The answer is yes. And it us even good for innovation when you cannot use low wages as a means to compete with others. Employees are people. Treat them with respect. Don't be a greedy Ferengi who steps on them on the ladder of success.

  3. Convince the sheep they are wolves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Dev and IT folks are convinced that it's all a meritocracy until their jobs get outsourced to India or they find themselves being let go for being born before 1977 (or next year, 1978). But it's okay because those younger not yet outsourced or retrenched folks are convinced that they are different and that those guys that were let go or made redundant simply didn't have what it takes to succeed and that outsourcing or age related discrimination *won't happen to them*.

    In the employers favor there are endless new people fresh willing to get sucked in to replace those that figure out that a lot of silicon valley these days is a venture capitalist money laundering scheme. The recent book Chaos Monkeys draws the argument out in stark detail. Convince IT and Dev folks that they are wolves and only that sheep need collectivism. Keep up the illusion and that way you can keep fleecing them.

    1. Re:Convince the sheep they are wolves by swb · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It's too bad the conventional union system has nearly all the rot and inefficiency of government. It gives it such a bad name that it's easy to see why so many IT workers see it as a turn for the worse.

      I think what you say about IT workers deluding themselves into thinking that it's a meritocracy is true, and much of this is just a byproduct of the general growth of IT. As long as it was new and on a path of large-scale growth, it's easy to see how the large demand for bodies and skills translates into "I'm here because I'm good" when the real answer was "they're so desperate".

      As IT matures as a sector, the cost pressures become more obvious and the myth of the meritocracy seems to quickly erode.

  4. Stupid Question by Maclir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anyone who is not senior management needs to be in a union. Don't expect your bosses to be concerned about what is in your best interest - the sole function of a private business in a capitalist society is to return the maximum amount of money to the company's investors (stockholders). You, as a mere worker drone, are just fodder

  5. Re:I can't afford to live in Beverly Hills by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Imagine if actors couldn't live in Beverly Hills, that's what's happened. Greedy landlords think x% of someone's salary belongs to them as rent. If programmers can't live in Silicon Valley, what's the point of Silicon Valley?

  6. No, ALL WORKERS need protection! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Unions put their effort into supporting their members, not the general populace. They spend a trifling amount of time and money campaigning to increase the minimum wage, and that only because in some cases union wages are tied to it. If it weren't for that, they would not give one tenth of one shit about it.

    Unions were a necessary step in workers' rights, but now it is time to protect the rights of all workers, without expecting them to unionize piecemeal.

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  7. Re:I will never belong to a union by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You've swallowed the purple flavor-aid. Union members don't like slackers any more than anyone else. Nobody wants to have to work harder to make up for lazy turds riding on their coat-tails. Union members are no exception.

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  8. Re:Unionize you stupid shits by KermodeBear · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I work in a Canadian government (unionized) position. My pay is double, my hours are halved [...]

    No wonder Canadian taxes are so high.

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  9. Re:I can't afford to live in Beverly Hills by TWX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe it's time to consider that proto-companies that generate no profitability shouldn't have to be established in some of the most expensive cities in the world.

    Maybe it's time to consider that mid-sized companies that are in pretty strong competition in order to remain profitable don't need to be located in some of the most expensive cities in the world.

    Maybe it's time to consider that large companies that are continually looking for ways to reduce costs don't need to retain the vast majority of their operations in some of the most expensive cities in the world.

    There seems to be a point where a city has gotten so expensive that it is not possible for workers in the service jobs needed to afford to live there, or to even live within reasonable commuter distances. In theory this should lead to a natural cap on the cost of living or a natural floor to wages simply because cities need workers in these jobs, but as has been pointed out in this thread that doesn't mean that landlords won't look for ways to increase their profits, or that the numbers of people that need these unskilled jobs can readily find work closer to where they can easily afford to live.

    If the service workers decide to unionize, fine. Good for them.

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  10. Re:I will never belong to a union by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Coming from a decidedly not communist country where labor unions are de rigueur, no it isn't.

    What is more capitalist than negotiating a fair and equitable price for a service? Individuals negotiating with companies are almost always at a massive disadvantage: they generally need the job more than the company needs them; they don't usually have information on what other people at the company or in the industry make; they aren't aware of the future plans that their management might have; they have no real say in corporate direction. All of these are ameliorated by collective bargaining.

    We have our share of bad employees here too, and a lot of them are in unions. The union makes sure the company follows the law and its own disciplinary procedures - that's it. If the company is doing something harmful in the long term for short term gain (like off-shoring IT to a developing nation) the union will make a fuss and maybe call a strike. The union has no interest in destroying the company; if anything they have more at stake in the long-term health of the firm than the managers, who may come and go within a few years.

    It seems to be that Americans in skilled jobs almost all believe that they are irreplaceable superstars and will receive above average treatment from their employers. It doesn't phase you that your colleagues are getting screwed, but when it happens to you it's a ridiculous injustice that will surely doom the company.