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Museum of Failure Opens In Sweden (failuremag.com)

Slashdot reader swellconvivialguy writes: A new museum in Helsingborg displays more than 70 failed products and objects, including the Apple Newton, Google Glass, Sony Betamax, Harley-Davidson perfume, and the Donald Trump board game. According to curator Samuel West, "none of the companies that I contacted wanted to cooperate. I approached quite a few innovation directors and asked them for examples of failure that they've learned from. I thought it would be easy to get them to collaborate but none of them -- zero -- choose to cooperate."
The curator urges people to accept failure -- "as an essential aspect of progress and innovation."

253 comments

  1. Sweden? by JustOK · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dammit, I went to Switzerland

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    1. Re:Sweden? by glitch! · · Score: 1

      Dammit, I went to Switzerland

      Customs inspector: "... Where they make the watches."

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    2. Re:Sweden? by quenda · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dammit, I went to Switzerland

      Oh well, go see Ayers Rock instead. It can't be more than a couple of hours train ride east.

    3. Re:Sweden? by Required+Snark · · Score: 1

      Ayers Rock is in the center of Sweden where it is really hot.

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    4. Re:Sweden? by GumphMaster · · Score: 1

      Uluru, you insensitive clod!

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    5. Re:Sweden? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uluru, you insensitive clod!

      But white people calling it that is cultural appropriation, you insensitive clod!

    6. Re: Sweden? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Second door to your right, sir.

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    7. Re:Sweden? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Uluru, you insensitive clod!

      Is that the one right next to Ubuntu?

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    8. Re:Sweden? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But white people calling it that is cultural appropriation, you insensitive clod!

      Says the black guy wearing western clothing instead of a grass skirt.

    9. Re:Sweden? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sweden doesn't have a culture so everything is cultural appropriation so carry on (they are rasist whatever they do)

    10. Re:Sweden? by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      Dammit, I went to Switzerland

      Oh well, go see Ayers Rock instead. It can't be more than a couple of hours train ride east.

      More to the North, in Austria.

    11. Re:Sweden? by quenda · · Score: 1

      North is Germany. Some people are too geographically challenged to get a joke about the geographically challenged.

  2. /. should contribute by Prien715 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can we donate a life-size portrait of Bennett Hasselton or Timothy?

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    1. Re:/. should contribute by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      The Slashdot Cruiser could make a nice floor display.

    2. Re:/. should contribute by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      For Voodoo purposes?

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  3. The museum of failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    It's cataloging slashdotters sex lives i assume

    1. Re:The museum of failure? by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Nobody cares about you.

      But the trolls like to keep you flipping around on the floor of their rowboat.

    2. Re: The museum of failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps you ought to stop abusing the DMCA to censor the trolls. Yes, it is censorship to use the DMCA to remove troll accounts and delete their comments. Sure, the trolls are annoying, but I have zero respect for people who abuse the DMCA to censor things they don't like. You're just as bad as the abusive copyright bots that make false DMCA takedown claims. I don't care one bit about you or how you live your life, but I'm thoroughly opposed to censorship and abuse of the DMCA. I sincerely hope that you have to deal with the Streisand Effect because of your conduct in dealing with trolls. I'm not condoning those trolls one bit, but that doesn't excuse your reprehensible behavior. Shame on you, creimer, for abusing the DMCA.

    3. Re: The museum of failure? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 0

      Shame on you, creimer, for abusing the DMCA.

      Slashdot management made the determination to delete five fake user accounts for abusing another user on the website. I had to file two dozen DMCA takedown requests to get my picture taken down from every image website in Europe.

    4. Re: The museum of failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This claim seems highly suspect to me. Unless I'm missing something, the DMCA is an American law. Unless those sites were also operating within the United States, there would be no reason for them to comply with a DMCA takedown request. Also, you claimed that you were making DMCA takedown requests. Regardless of the decision made by Slashdot management, you chose to make the DMCA takedown requests. When someone makes an incorrect DMCA claim to YouTube and YouTube takes down a video, it's not YouTube abusing the DMCA but the entity making the claim. Don't hide behind the decisions of Slashdot management when they almost certainly wouldn't have acted unless you complained to them. However, because I believe in repaying things in kind, every time I see you make an offtopic post, especially one bragging about getting comments and user accounts censored, I'm going to flag it as abuse. Turnabout is fair play. I won't reply to you again, but you can bet I'll be reporting your comments.

    5. Re: The museum of failure? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 0

      Unless those sites were also operating within the United States, there would be no reason for them to comply with a DMCA takedown request.

      All but the Russian websites have procedures for taking down disputed content. Only two things matter in takedown notice: the original link and the infringing link. If the two matches, the content gets taken down.

      I won't reply to you again, but you can bet I'll be reporting your comments.

      Whatever floats your boat.

    6. Re:The museum of failure? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Who'd want to walk through an empty museum?

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    7. Re: The museum of failure? by pinzvidz · · Score: 0

      Speaking of the Streisand Effect, I wonder if they have a wax model of Barbara Streisand in the Museum of Failure?

    8. Re:The museum of failure? by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      I approached quite a few innovation directors and asked them for examples of failure that they've learned from. I thought it would be easy to get them to collaborate but none of them -- zero -- choose to cooperate.

      So the Museum of Failure is a failure.

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    9. Re: The museum of failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, lemme ask you this Sherlock. Do you think a bunch of us kept creating accounts to have you write your takedown notices, and creating new ones till we just got bored writing content and shit your fugface all over the internet instead with a script? That's what happened fugnuts. You always dance monkey.

      And by the way.... There is a shitload more pictures still up of that. Until someone runs that script again, and for longer while in the bathtub. At which point I'm guessing you'll do your dance again.

      I saw a couple of them with text. Those were fun. Think Corset.

  4. His main attraction should be Hillary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Losing twice for President, I'm sure she knows a lot about failure!!!

    1. Re:His main attraction should be Hillary by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      Losing twice for President, I'm sure she knows a lot about failure!!!

      Actually, no. She doesn't know a lot about failure, because she hasn't realized yet that she has failed. She accepts full responsibility for not winning the election, but blames it on literally everyone else. She hasn't comprehended yet that there are a lot of folks who simply don't like her. She really does believe that anyone who doesn't like her deserves to be called "deplorable".

      This reminds me of how the former East German communists labeled anyone who was critical of communism as "asozial"; meaning something like anti-social, but more in the sense of rejecting "the community" or not cooperating with others. She is the one who should be called "deplorable". She could do the Democratic party a favor, and politely bow out, and let the Democratic party rebuild a post-Clintonista future. But, alas, that megalomaniac ego of hers will keep her ranting on forever in a screeching Granny Clampett voice.

      Obviously, she'd like to see her daughter Chelsea continue the Clinton Dynasty, but I don't think the rest of the Democratic party will swallow that: they will be concentrating on beating Trump. The important part of failure is realizing and accepting it. Only then can you learn what you did wrong. Or put even better:

      "A fool can learn from his mistakes. A wise man can learn from the mistakes of others."

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    2. Re:His main attraction should be Hillary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    3. Re:His main attraction should be Hillary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yawn. Is this how you distract yourself from the fact that you (presumably, based on your comment) helped elect a President who can't go a day without lying, exaggerating, bragging about falsehoods, and generally embarrassing himself and the US with his tacky and clueless demeanor?

      The election is over. You can't just should "emails!" to distract from the horror that is the Mango Mussolini. You got what you wanted, now you'll have to own the disaster.

    4. Re:His main attraction should be Hillary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even as a failure, she failed with 3 million more votes than the runner up.

      Ah, the American dream. Where the loser can become president of the free world.

  5. Google Glass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not sure I would call Google Glass a failure just yet...

    1. Re: Google Glass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course you wouldn't dorkwad. It's been cancelled for over a year, but I bet you still wear one.

  6. In Sweden we fall it Rosenbad. by aliquis · · Score: 0

    World's greatest failure.

    1. Re: In Sweden we fall it Rosenbad. by aliquis · · Score: 0

      Damnit. Call is auto-wronged by the phone.

    2. Re: In Sweden we fall it Rosenbad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My Android doesn't have that problem. Welcome to 2011, dipshit.

    3. Re: In Sweden we fall it Rosenbad. by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Galaxy S5 Android 6.0.1 with Swedish setup/vocabulary "corrected" call to fall (fall = water-fall, drop or case in Swedish, call isn't a Swedish word.)

  7. Will they exhibit the Swedish Immigration policy? by tychoS · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Do they also exhibit political and economic failure?

    In that case large areas of present day Sweden can be seen as a huge open-air museum of failure :-(

    Google: "swedish immigration policy" or something along those lines, if unaware of what I refer to.

  8. Harley-Davidson Cat Collar by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have always thought the Harley-Davidson Cat Collar should go in a display like this one. I bought one for our kitten once, though he's definitely not a failure of a cat. In the process of scratching and grooming he ended up rendering the Harley-Davidson logo on it illegible. Since then I have always said that Harley-Davidson can't even make a cat collar that lasts.

    1. Re:Harley-Davidson Cat Collar by dohzer · · Score: 1

      They failed to make the perfume and cat collar loud enough. What were they thinking. Crank it up to 190dB!

    2. Re:Harley-Davidson Cat Collar by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      Did Harley actually make the collar themselves? It seems unlikely to me that they would have bothered to do that. We see all kinds of crap sold with the branding of popular brands (think of all the Ferrari watches and wallets that are sold today as an example).

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    3. Re: Harley-Davidson Cat Collar by KGIII · · Score: 2

      They should also have made the collar leak oil. I'm also pretty sure it'd be inhumane put a fat woman on the back of a cat.

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    4. Re: Harley-Davidson Cat Collar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've got mail. -PCP

    5. Re: Harley-Davidson Cat Collar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Completely off-topic, but I couldn't help chuckling a bit at the QOTD at the bottom of the page: "Honesty pays, but it doesn't seem to pay enough to suit some people. -- F.M. Hubbard" ... truth. -PCP

    6. Re: Harley-Davidson Cat Collar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should also have made the collar leak oil.

      That is just an attribute of Harleys, not the reason why they are bought.
      They buyers doesn't care about the oil leakage and bad road handling. They buy it because it makes a lot of noise.
      If you want to sell anything with the Harley brand it has to make noise.
      They should brand an AC or a gaming computer.

    7. Re:Harley-Davidson Cat Collar by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      That perfume was made to last. If only for a lack of use.

      A friend actually bought me that stuff. And I was young enough and dumb enough to actually try it. From the skin reaction I had, my guess is that one of the main ingredients is battery acid.

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    8. Re:Harley-Davidson Cat Collar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yo, dawg! What do I do with these old batteries?

      Let me see. Uuuuuarrrrrrr, smells NICE! Put a price sticker on that stuff, and let's SELL it!

  9. Re:So the question is by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    One.

  10. The big lesson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Apple Newton ...

    People didn't want to pay for an expensive product with limited use-cases. Once the technology improved through Psion, Palm Pilot, iPhone; tech geeks became interested.

    ... Google Glass

    The augmented reality hype didn't match the reality (See: limited use-cases), plus privacy issues.

    ... Sony Betamax

    A good product doomed by cheaper VHS technology.

    ... Harley-Davidson perfume ...

    I don't know its marketing position but perfume contradicts the unwashed, anti-authoritarian persona marketed by H-D.

    ... failure that they've learned from ...

    It's not enough to have brand awareness or new technology.

    1. Re:The big lesson by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

      People didn't want to pay for an expensive product with limited use-cases. Once the technology improved through Psion, Palm Pilot, iPhone; tech geeks became interested.

      Not exactly. Read "Startup: A Silicon Valley Adventure" by Jerry Kaplan, about the first pen-based handheld computer in the late 1980's that got screwed over by Microsoft ("Why aren't you using Windows?!"), Intel ("Why aren't you using the 386 processor?!"), Apple ("We invented that with the Apple Newton!"), and IBM ("We don't know what we're doing but sign these forms anyway!").

    2. Re:The big lesson by sheramil · · Score: 1

      ... Sony Betamax

      A good product doomed by cheaper VHS technology.

      I don't agree that Betamax was a failure. I owned two, and together they worked for over twenty-five years. Betamax was briefly superseded by VHS, which was then rendered obsolete by digital video. Does that make VHS a failure also?

    3. Re:The big lesson by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      ... Sony Betamax

      A good product doomed by cheaper VHS technology.

      Betamax was briefly superseded by VHS, which was then rendered obsolete by digital video.

      There was no "brief" about it. VHS was the highest selling video medium for two decades.

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    4. Re:The big lesson by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Betamax failed because the better quality over VHS was insignificant compared to the price difference. Partly this was due to Sony not wanting to license the manufacturing of tapes, resulting in WAY higher tape prices (JVC licensed to anyone who was willing to produce VHS tapes and this resulted in competition).

      Sony's decision to originally limit the size of Beta tapes to one hour, because they feared that people would use those tapes to record movies, and only after a LONG time (and a lot of pressure) relented. Because, guess what, people wanted to record movies and didn't give a shit about what Sony wanted them to do with the tapes. VHS tapes originally came with 2 hours recording time, enough to record pretty much every movie (especially after it has been cut and butchered by TV networks).

      By the time Sony got the hint that they can't force their idea down people's throat, the ship had sailed.

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    5. Re: The big lesson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tapes were minor compared to Sony's lack of licensing of the decks themselves. The VHS deck was licensed for manufacture by 10's of companies, creating the same market PC clones created

    6. Re:The big lesson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might also enjoy "Charged Bodies". A bit before that time but you can see the same forces and types of people at work.

      https://www.amazon.com/Charged-Bodies-People-Paradox-Silicon/dp/0453004873/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1497274826&sr=1-2&keywords=charged+bodies

    7. Re:The big lesson by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      I actually own a Go, nice device, nut never really used it. I could not find a development environment for it.

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  11. Newton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did not fail.

    1. Re:Newton by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I have a Newton. It's battery compartment is a dismal failure. There are fussy little parts of the door that break off. I have long maintained that the reason Apple uses sealed-in batteries in their mobile devices is because they're not good enough designers to make a robust battery compartment. (Battery compartments, especially when they are designed to work with off-the-shelf consumer batteries, are an extremely difficult design challenge).

    2. Re:Newton by scdeimos · · Score: 1

      I still have a Newton that works, but I only show it to people for comic value.

      I've never had problems with the battery compartment. It lasts for quite a long time on a set of AA batteries. Until you put an 802.11 PCMCIA card in it, that is, then you're lucky to get 2 hours out of it.

    3. Re:Newton by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      I have a Newton. It's battery compartment is a dismal failure.

      Gee, yes, Replaceable batteries are a dumb idea after all.

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    4. Re:Newton by swell · · Score: 2

      My two Newton 2100s are elegant devices for that time. The rechargeable battery in one has failed, of course, the other with regular batteries worked fine last time I checked. I used them at university in the 1990s to take class notes. In screenwriting class, with the lights off during a movie, I was able to take notes both with the green backlight on and without. The handwriting recognition was good enough to just write without actually seeing the resulting text. Alas, my handwriting is so bad now that even I can't recognize it.

      But yes, it was a kludge. Parts of the circuitry were hand soldered, even in this final version. The cabinetry was slick with opening, folding and closing that were elegantly designed -- but could be damaged in normal use. There is a fix online that allows rechargeable batteries to be used. There are hardware and software enhancements over the years. The Newton was created in Jobs' absence and when he returned he immediately dumped it. A sad example of NIH syndrome.

      The Newton Messagepad could have forged the path to our current smartphones, and with handwriting recognition they would be much better today.

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    5. Re:Newton by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      The Newton Messagepad could have forged the path to our current smartphones, and with handwriting recognition they would be much better today.

      It exists. And it's just less convenient than a swiping keyboard.

    6. Re:Newton by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Toymakers seem to have it covered. Captive oversize screw. Oversize so you can use a coin if you don't have a screwdriver, captive so you can't lose it.

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    7. Re:Newton by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Came here to see people in denial.
      Left here not at all disappointed.

    8. Re:Newton by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      That's right!

      To fail, you first have to try.

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    9. Re:Newton by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Found the Apple designer!

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    10. Re:Newton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've kept an old laptop for over 10 years. After all this time, bits start falling off - mainly the small fiddly bits with plastic tabs to keep them locked in place; slider switches for enabling/disabling wifi (worn down), little covers for the screen hinges (popped off), flap for the rear connectors (worn out), headphones connector (plastic around socket worn out).

      Anything made of metal has lasted, anything made of plastic has worn away.

    11. Re:Newton by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The Newton was created in Jobs' absence and when he returned he immediately dumped it. A sad example of NIH syndrome.

      "Get these damned scribble pads out of my office!" *throw*

      The Newton Messagepad could have forged the path to our current smartphones, and with handwriting recognition they would be much better today.

      No, it could not have. It was too expensive. It wasn't until the Palm Pilot that PDAs became inexpensive enough to be the basis of a ubiquitous computing platform.

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    12. Re:Newton by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Really, I've seen no good input keyboard on a smart phone. Maybe with extensive training but I'd rather use a real keyboard. I spend more time correcting the spelling from the stupid spell checkers, then fixing the same spelling a second time because the spell checker goes beyond stupid, and trying to position the cursor where it needs to be because there are no arrow keys for this, ugh. I can write things out faster on a palm pilot and with less training.

      I'm not the only one with the problem, I can tell when email is sent from a phone because I have to do the translation of the resulting spell check into what was originally intended.

  12. Next exhibition: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Museum of Failure for when the museum shuts down.

  13. One Thing Them Swiss Know is Failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Swiss Miss anyone?

    1. Re: One Thing Them Swiss Know is Failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Swiss rarely miss. They're pretty good shooters and their gun culture actually makes sense.

  14. Google Glass was not a failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google Glass was never meant to be a commerical product EVER. Google said so on release. It was always just an experiment.

    1. Re:Google Glass was not a failure by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Google always says that about anything they come up with. Then, if it works out, they proclaim it a success. Otherwise, it was "just an experiment and they learned a lot from it." Google has a lot of money, but so does any entity that plays nice with the boys on Madison Avenue.

    2. Re:Google Glass was not a failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bullshit. Google didn't stay "this is just an experiement" about search, gmail, chrome, android, docs, maps, etc...

      Where as when Google Glass came out they were very explicit that it was just an experiment, not a commerical product, for developers only.

      It's the same with Project Tango. It might lead to things that get added to other projects but Project Tango itself is not meant to be a commercial success

    3. Re:Google Glass was not a failure by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Everything Google comes up with is an experiment, a beta, a test study...

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    4. Re:Google Glass was not a failure by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Google Glass was never meant to be a commerical product EVER. Google said so on release. It was always just an experiment.

      Well, it looks like one part of the Glass project was a success... It made a lot of people swallow bullshit. You really believe[d] that?

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  15. aka The Museum of ROFLMAO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As John Cleese once put it: "This whole thing is rather silly."

  16. What failure really means... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    An asshat recently asked this question: "Why do you set yourself up for massive failure? All. The. Fucking. Time?"

    My (corrected) response: "If you have to ask that question, than you know nothing about success."

    Let me elaborate... failure is a learning process. You can learn more from failure than you can from success. If the world already views you as a failure, say, for being the fat retarded kid on the short bus, than you have absolutely nothing to lose by trying to succeed. Not once, not twice, not thrice, but as many times as possible in a lifetime. Failure becomes permanent only when you give up. I have absolutely no intention of ever giving up.

    1. Re:What failure really means... by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      The fat retarded kid on the short bus who tries, and tries, and tries, over and over, is still just the fat retarded kid on the short bus who won't quit trying.

      Failure only becomes permanent when you die having never succeeded. But if your struggles provide amusement to your fellow humans, you might not be a failure. Successfully being the village idiot probably can be seen as a form of success.

    2. Re:What failure really means... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Successfully being the village idiot probably can be seen as a form of success.

      This village idiot just finished installing, partationing, and formatting a 3TB hard drive in his Red Hat Linux box, and is now testing rsync to backup his FreeNAS file server.

    3. Re:What failure really means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, wow, I guess humanity is on track to fusion power with a mind like yours...

    4. Re:What failure really means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      installing, partationing, and formatting a 3TB hard drive in his Red Hat Linux box, and is now testing rsync to backup his FreeNAS file server

      An operation that should have taken you... what, 10 minutes? If you're sipping coffee while you do it?

      Seriously dude, do you have any concept how trivial what you just told us about is to any of us here with the faintest clue about Linux?

      It's like you're TRYING to make us think you're a moron. "This village idiot just finished washing his hands. It was hard, but I persevered! YAY!"

    5. Re:What failure really means... by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      Engineering is the study of making failure hurt the least. Not only is failure an option, it's the only option.

    6. Re:What failure really means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I would venture to guess that he especially doesn't care what "AC on the internet" thinks.

      His history of engaging with those "AC on the internet" trolls suggests the exact opposite: he cares very deeply what a bunch of "AC on the internet" people think - he's written blog posts about them, he tries to win arguments with them, and he fuels them with endless flamebait comments.

      So... while I understand the point you're trying to make, your assertion that creimer doesn't give a rat's ass about AC opinions assumes facts that are not in evidence.

    7. Re:What failure really means... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      An operation that should have taken you... what, 10 minutes?

      Took me 30 minutes with the Cougar QBX mini-ITX case. I may be a big guy but I build my systems small.

      https://twitter.com/cdreimer/status/874112440379744257/

    8. Re:What failure really means... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      [...] he cares very deeply what a bunch of "AC on the internet" people think - he's written blog posts about them, he tries to win arguments with them, and he fuels them with endless flamebait comments.

      Actually, I don't. Not on a personal level. Pulling the controversy from Slashdot to a platform where I collect the ad revenues is good business for me. If there is anything that the asshats on Slashdot shown me in the last three months, controversy is good for business.

    9. Re:What failure really means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you want a medal or something?

    10. Re:What failure really means... by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Successfully being the village idiot probably can be seen as a form of success.

      This village idiot just finished installing, partationing, and formatting a 3TB hard drive in his Red Hat Linux box

      I'm not sure I understand the point you are trying to make. Installing, partitioning and formatting a hard drive is "village idiot" type of work. It is not something to be proud of doing, it's the grunt work that get's passed off to interns to do.

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      I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
    11. Re:What failure really means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You and your ad revenues. Legit sites with rich youtube content make revenue. You, must make pennies. Everyone uses adblock, and no one has heard of you, your absurd "personal brand", your Geocities-level website, or your shitty 1000-word ebooks.

      And "controversy".... Holy shit you're delusional.

    12. Re:What failure really means... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      And "controversy".... Holy shit you're delusional.

      conÂtroÂverÂsy
      ËkÃntrÉ(TM)ËOEvÉ(TM)rsÄ"/
      noun
      noun: controversy; plural noun: controversies

              disagreement, typically when prolonged, public, and heated.
              "he sometimes caused controversy because of his forceful views"

      Here's $0, kid. Buy yourself a link to dictionary.com. Are you new?

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    13. Re:What failure really means... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Legit sites with rich youtube content make revenue.

      I guess you haven't heard about the advertiser boycott that had reduced YouTube ad revenues significantly. Content creators who don't have multiple revenue streams — merchandise, sponsorship and public speaking — are hurting badly.

      https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/24/15053990/google-youtube-advertising-boycott-hate-speech

      You, must make pennies.

      Ad revenues from Slashdot traffic alone pays for my monthly subscription to The Wall Street Journal.

      Everyone uses adblock [...]

      Uh, no.

      [...] no one has heard of you, your absurd "personal brand", your Geocities-level website, or your shitty 1000-word ebooks.

      Let me check my bank account... ROFL.

    14. Re:What failure really means... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      It is not something to be proud of doing, it's the grunt work that get's passed off to interns to do.

      Like the newbie developer who accidentally deleted the production database o his first day?

    15. Re:What failure really means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't ever stop being you, creimer. This is more entertaining than a train wreck.

    16. Re:What failure really means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where's the "public" part you cum-guzzling retard? Where's the "heated"? Fat ass creimer himself says he's been laughing for weeks. I've been entertained by this microcephalic caveman's claims for weeks as well.

      I'll give you the "prolonged" part though. It's never gonna end. He's too OCD/ADHD/stupid to give up, and I'm too bored to stop!

    17. Re:What failure really means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Successfully being the village idiot probably can be seen as a form of success.

      This village idiot just finished installing, partationing, and formatting a 3TB hard drive in his Red Hat Linux box, and is now testing rsync to backup his FreeNAS file server.

      And that's an accomplishment how? Next he'll be bragging that he used the CLI to do it.

    18. Re:What failure really means... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Next he'll be bragging that he used the CLI to do it.

      Via a Cygwin terminal window on my Windows laptop. Took all night to rsync 800GB to the new hard drive.

    19. Re:What failure really means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As I always say, "Failure is not A route to success. Failure is THE route to success." I can't believe people could possible become "innovation" directors and not embrace this concept. I guess it goes to show you just how applied "research" is today, particularly in industry.

    20. Re:What failure really means... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Where's the "public" part you cum-guzzling retard? Where's the "heated"?

      That's where my blog come into play.

      https://www.kickingthebitbucket.com/tag/slashdot/

      I'll give you the "prolonged" part though. It's never gonna end.

      Has it occurred to anyone that if they stop replying to my comments that I might go away?

    21. Re:What failure really means... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      On a personal level enough that you keep trying to get the last word.

      The one time it got personal about having the last word, it turned out that a Slashdot comment thread can only have 256 comments before the reply button disappears.

      Spare us the bullshit about ad revenues, too - an "all-digital" WSJ subscription costs $200 a year, or, as the WSJ likes to say, "Less than $4 a week!" In no reality are you making significant money from ad revenues.

      I'm paying $30 per month for the WSJ "all digital" subscription. The introductory rate for a 12-month subscription is $278 with a 30% discount.

      https://buy.wsj.com/wsjusjune17/?inttrackingCode=aaqpn5h3&icid=WSJ_ON_SPG_ACQ_NA

    22. Re:What failure really means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...so again, the only evidence of this 'heated controversy" ... is your claim. You puffed-up narcissist.

    23. Re:What failure really means... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Seems like a waste of money when you only make 50k a year.

      You probably don't invest in the stock market.

    24. Re:What failure really means... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      He has broad shoulders, obviously two seats are better for him.
      I have broad shoulders, too. If the space is small like in a tram, only small ladies fit easily besides me.
      I see nothing wrong with that.

      My lady however is of normal build, not particular broad shoulders but not the last century type of big hips with small shoulders. To sit comfortably on two seats in a subway she has to lean on me and cuddle with me. I see nothing wrong with that, either :)

      Ah, you wanted to imply that he is fat? Wow, you must be an idiot. He has pictures of himself on his web page. I know literally thousands of places where he would be swarmed by girls. Not sure if they would notice you, though.

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    25. Re:What failure really means... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      I usually din't use add blockers.
      And actually I'm not aware of friends/family that does.
      If sites are to full with adds, like the ones on the bottom of /. I simply don't visit them anymore.

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    26. Re:What failure really means... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I have been amazed at home many stupid ideas actually succeed, and succeed over their smarter competition. And have sort of gotten used to the idea that smart concepts die out. One dumb idea in the bowl full of brilliance can ruin it all.

      That doesn't mean being smart of stupid doesn't matter. Being smart makes the random successes succeed even better, and being dumb lessens the success or shortens the lifetime of it.

    27. Re:What failure really means... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Anticipate failure and design around it.

    28. Re:What failure really means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      go away? there is literally no other person on here who have zero comebacks and always replies when everyone is repeatedly shitting on. I wish I had one of you at home instead of my wife and kids. feed you candy, take you for leisurely walks, and shit in your mouth all day, and in response you'll tell me random things about your sad life. it's like shitting on you triggers you shitting on you.

      stop replying? you provide a useful service here - to relieve people's stress. you don't get into heated arguments. people reply to you when they feel like abusing someone to relax and get their kicks.

  17. Re:Will they exhibit the Swedish Immigration polic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    That exhibit is currently just a window that lets you look outside.

  18. Re:So the question is by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    Coach.

  19. Re:Will they exhibit the Swedish Immigration polic by quenda · · Score: 0

    Yes, you can visit the open-air museum of Failed Immigration Policy. It is called Malmö.

  20. Proverb. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ''Success has many fathers, but failure gets the mother-in-law.''

  21. Re: LIST OF EXHIBITS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Axe to grind? You forgot your mom on that list

  22. Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is the main problem I've seen with the three local dealers I've bought motorcycles from. Their web sites are down more than they're up, and two of them are still pushing Christmas ornaments. Harley's online marketing director needs to jump off of a bridge.

    1. Re: Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We are forced by corporate to use only Microsoft products.

    2. Re: Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're old school this very anti-open source. They made us replace our nice WordPress site.

    3. Re:Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HD loves Monetate since we're based out of Pennsylvania. We are a 100% from top to bottom Microsoft company. I hate my job since we're still stuck in the 1980s and won't allow any open source products to be used.

    4. Re: Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was one of their first tech hires in 2008. They were too wrapped up on sending as much money as they could to Microsoft instead of being concerned about offering solutions.

    5. Re: Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're not allowed to run anything besides Windows. Sucks that our ecommerce sites are so bad. I wonder how many of millions of dollars we've lost because our servers were down. I work IT for three dealerships, and I know we've lost a lot of money.

    6. Re: Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even sadder is that they still haven't learned. We're leaving them no because of downtime.

    7. Re: Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I personally know of three large customers that Monetate lost because of Microsoft so maybe they'll change their ways.

    8. Re:Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > HD loves Monetate

      And, Monetate is incredibly in bed with Microsoft. They get a kick-back on the $50+k cost of Microsoft's attempt at an SQL server. The local dealerships are forced to use them for their web sites and shopping carts. Our web site had been down dozens of times so far just this year. Corporate HD doesn't care. They're stuck in the past when downtime for IT was expected.

    9. Re: Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HD corporate must be getting a kickback, because otherwise I don't understand why they would require us to use something so unreliable.

    10. Re: Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like my current employer. They're stuck on the past where you had to bribe software vendors.

    11. Re: Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No chance of that. Our kickbacks from MSFT are just too large.

    12. Re: Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I check my local HD dealer's site a few times each week to look for a certain of model of used bike and it's down, even I get discourage. After over forty years of owning Harleys and I'm fed-up, I can only imagine how done the average customer is.

    13. Re: Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not likely. I've noticed that always the more Microsoft screws up, the more management is willing to give them.

    14. Re: Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate you. I wish we could get away from you. As is so typical for American companies, the worse tech suppliers are, the more entrenched they get.

    15. Re: Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same in too many companies. We can't prove a business case for moving to better solutions since Microsoft offers large "discounts."

    16. Re: Microsoft Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It am de way ob dey kind. Dey hates us.

  23. Re:LIST OF EXHIBITS by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1, Troll

    * Windows (any version, especially the "everyone has a touch screen" ones)
    * Anonymous cowards on Slashdot
    * Star Wars
    * All the crap that spies on us (the ones they sell to us and the ones we don't know about)
    * Piracy (real at-sea piracy, not the copyright infringement crap)
    * Americans constantly whining about every other country in the fucking Universe
    * All the latest Macs with on-board RAM with no possibility to add more
    * All the Macs which requires a 90% disassembly to add RAM or replace the storage drive

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  24. Re: LIST OF EXHIBITS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Failire

  25. Oh crap by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

    Museum of failure opens in Sweden.

    Ok, so... what if the museum itself is a failure? Will they try to put the museum into itself? Won't that cause a "divide by zero" or some shit and destroy the universe?

    Damn you, Sweden! You were supposed to be good guys!

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    1. Re:Oh crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the universe fails it has to be placed in the museum too so it will cancel itself out.
      Those bastards thought about everything!

    2. Re:Oh crap by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      It'll be fine as long as they get Xzibit to open it.

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    3. Re:Oh crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That reminds me of how the Not Terribly Good Club of Great Britain closed when it became too successful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Terribly_Good_Club_of_Great_Britain#Demise

    4. Re:Oh crap by LostOne · · Score: 1

      Museum of failure opens in Sweden.

      Ok, so... what if the museum itself is a failure? Will they try to put the museum into itself? Won't that cause a "divide by zero" or some shit and destroy the universe?

      Damn you, Sweden! You were supposed to be good guys!

      The curator actually talked about exactly that in an interview with Tom Scott on Youtube.

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  26. How about by rossdee · · Score: 4, Funny

    Assange's condom

    1. Re:How about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They were going to put that next to a display case with Assange's ego, but they couldn't fit it in the country, much less into the museum.

      captcha: capacity

  27. Google Glss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This reminded me of an idea I had which I'm pretty sure is still implausible. I'd like to have eyeglasses that are adaptive, within a certain range to give you improved vision. Basically you would be dynamically adjusting the prescription, though likely only in limited ways. In the simplest since if you needed bifocals you could replace them with these and have the correct prescription for whatever distance.

    Sadly, the only two technologies I can think of are basically the use of some kind of fluid to physically change the shape of the lens or some kind of electric field to change the index of refraction. Basically you would need some kind of way to set a grid of nearly invisible or preferably totally invisible traces on both sides of the glasses and somehow control the voltage between pairs and have a material that somehow magically adjusts its index of refraction to make all that work, plus of course having electronics small enough and clever enough to control it all. Does anyone know off hand if any of that is achievable?

    1. Re: Google Glss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like this? http://www.allaboutvision.com/lenses/variable-focus.htm

    2. Re:Google Glss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK, here's the deal. Luis Alvarez of Berkeley and Josh Silver of Oxford worked on this for decades. Silver's idea was of two outer lenses that were shaped by a pressurized fluid, but they were pretty much set once on initial fitting, in some Third World country for a couple of Pounds, total. Only a couple of Frame designs would be stocked; Large and Small.
      Alvarez came up with a Sliding Surfaces lens design that could be adjusted on the fly, and THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I'M WEARING RIGHT NOW! (Sorry for the Caps; Alvarez got the Nobel prize for his work in Physics, but he considered these Optical principles more important, and spent most of his last years trying to commercialize them, but was ignored.)
      I worked with Silver, and solved a particularly thorny problem for him once involving High Charge State Ionized Gases, and so I was allowed to play with a prototype. They needed still work.

      Three decades later, the Alvarez design is available from Fry's for between $20-$30, depending whether on Sale, and they are sold without Prescription, which is a chancy Legal thing, since they correct especially well for Myopia. Those who pay attention will note that their Prescription for focusing at Infinity changes during the day, and is light dependent, so slight adjustments are welcome.
      http://www.frys.com/product/8886702?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

      They are inexpensive, but boy are they cheap. But they do work, and are far lighter than the rubbish Bifocals that I normally wear. Note that they don't, and can't, correct for Astigmatism. That required a rotating Lens element, and never made it out of the Prototype stage.
      I bought five pair, just to have them handy in case they get outlawed. They are already illegal in New York and Wisconsin.
      For Driving, I'm required to wear Corrective Lenses, and whether they are Legal for that has yet to be tested in Court.
      Here a couple of relevant Alvarez Patents:
      https://www.google.com/patents/US3305294
      https://www.google.com/patents/US3507565

      Note that both Alvarez and Silver put their Patents in the Public Domain right at the beginning; anybody can make and sell them, if they wish, without Royalties, and sadly because this is little known, without Credit.
      Just for Giggles, I showed them recently to a couple of Opticians...
      They were horrified.

    3. Re:Google Glss by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 1

      Yeah, sounds doable conceptually but no idea about the packaging of it, although compute power could be off-board. Dynamic refocus could be tricky I think... probably needs eye tracking so the glasses know where the eyes are looking through the lenses, but yeah, you could have a fluid or viscous layer and use a combination of pressure and if you're brave perhaps magnetic attraction/repulsion between the outer layers to shape the lens. Most folks would just use a servo motor or linear drive through and forgo the extra lens shaping step.

      You could probably skip the eye tracking if you used a range-finder and the wearer got used to moving their head with relatively fixed eye position.

      Or, buy something like this: https://www.wired.com/2010/07/fluid-filled-adjustable-eye-glasses/

      Talk is here: https://www.ted.com/talks/josh_silver_demos_adjustable_liquid_filled_eyeglasses

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    4. Re:Google Glss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds interesting but is there an article about them that does not hurt my brain to read do too all the spelling and grammar mistakes in the first two paragraphs alone?

      Why is it anymore "News" sites and I am including everything from CNN/ABC/MSNBC and the like down to wired and other niche sites had editors that feels it is OK to either not work and just rubber stamp everything that wants to be published, or that it is OK to assume since it was most likely typed up on a smartphone or tablet, spelling does not count since auto correct would change it anyway.

      More articles I stop reading in the first paragraphs because I reuse to assume what the writer intended because I have to guess at the work he or she meant to use.

  28. Trump Wing by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 4, Funny

    And Trump University, and Trump Vodka, and Trump Steaks, and ...

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    1. Re:Trump Wing by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the Trump presidency.

      Depends, are we talking about the entertainment section or the politics section?

    2. Re:Trump Wing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Put the real thing in the Entertainment section with a big sign pointing at him saying "Your'e Fired"
      Then a Waxwork model in the Politics section with a sign saying 'bigly' that points at his little wiener. :)

      Should cover it all nicely.

    3. Re:Trump Wing by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Was Trump University actually a failure? The lawsuit paid out millions of dollars, but how much money did it make?

      A scam can be considered a success if the money made is significantly more than the cost of settling lawsuits and the scammer avoids jail.

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    4. Re:Trump Wing by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Trump Preside..... wait are we calling this one yet?

    5. Re:Trump Wing by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I don't care what people say, it's still one of the more entertaining reality soaps currently running!

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    6. Re:Trump Wing by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Well, to be considered a failure, it kinda has to be "over with". That one is still waiting for a final verdict.

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    7. Re:Trump Wing by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      I was trying to imagine what Trump Fragrances smell like. I puked a little inside my mouth, which was a good thing in comparison.

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    8. Re:Trump Wing by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      You forgot Trump water, and it's more affordable knock-off (Andy) Dick Water.

      I can't seem to find the Youtube video...

  29. The Trump Wing by Gussington · · Score: 1, Funny

    I hear they've set aside an entire wing just for Donald J Trump...

    1. Re:The Trump Wing by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

      The Great Orange One took out the Chosen Ones from both the left (Hillary) and right (Jeb) despite being outspent by God-will-only-ever-know, tripping over himself every week, and being relentlessly mocked by nearly everyone in both old and new media. Call Trump whatever else you will, but it's tough to call a guy who won the toughest race in American politics his first time out a "failure".

    2. Re:The Trump Wing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it's pretty easy to show he's a failure when you notice him lying about the "election" being a "landslide" rather than the actual truth of it being a mere result of America's abomination of an Electoral College (which despite the claims from its defenders purporting that it somehow makes states more meaningful, does the exact opposite.

      Look at his numbers. Look at George W. Bush in 2004. Trump didn't do anything near the success he claims.

      And that's just the election. In terms of the real matter, the administration, that's a lot of failure to live down. He's lied about Trumpcare. He's fucked up the budget. He's lost on his Muslim Ban. The only thing you could call an achievement might be the appointment of Neil Gorsuch, and that's really not a victory for him. That's a loss by the US Senate. Such a naked display of hypocritical partisanship is failure, not success.

      Jeb, BTW, was DOOMED even before this election cycle. His own brother killed his presidential chances, though to be honest, murdering Lawton Chiles was a mistake in that it was too late for him to take office beyond Florida.

    3. Re:The Trump Wing by Gussington · · Score: 1

      Call Trump whatever else you will, but it's tough to call a guy who won the toughest race in American politics his first time out a "failure".

      And yet here were are.

    4. Re:The Trump Wing by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Yes, and yet, look where he is.

      It almost seems like to succeed in the US, you have to know how to fail right.

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    5. Re:The Trump Wing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When it comes to presidencies, what ultimately counts isn't that you got the job, but what you do once you're there (or at least, that's what should count, in this world of people who reject facts as "elitist" maybe that's changing). So farm, by that standard, the Cheeto in Chief is nothing short of a monumental failure. Not a single piece of signifficant legislation signed. Lots of executive order (remember when those were a bad thing, when the hand holding the pen was black), but the really important ones are stuck in court. Hundreds of jobs in the administration remain unfilled, no candidates have been suggested for confirmation. Constant scandals every week, and the lies and contradictions come in a steady stream. This clueless, lazy, unprepared, disinterested, tacky, braggard we installed in the White House is becoming more of a laughing stock around the world every day, except for when what he does is so scary that other world leaders are simply stunned by his ignorance.

      Can you tell I'm not a fan?

  30. Tesla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are they in there yet?

  31. But there's already a Museum of Failed Inventions by Traf-O-Data-Hater · · Score: 2

    ...it's in Austria: http://nation.com.pk/entertain... The interesting thing is, if either this austrlian museum or the swedish museum close due to poor attendance they can always acquire each others collections :)

  32. What failure really means... by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 1

    "My (corrected) response: "If you have to ask that question, than you know nothing about success.""

    "THEN" you two-seat taking dumbass!

    Two important points about success.

    1) Generally speaking, you can't succeed if you measure your success by what other people think of you.

    I don't think creimer gives a rats ass whether his spelling or grammar are perfect in a quickly tossed post, and I would venture to guess that he especially doesn't care what "AC on the internet" thinks.

    2) Success has been studied in-depth, and creimer has grasped probably the most important aspect.

    Your response makes me think of this George Carlin quote:

    There’s a reason you don’t talk to [your HS classmates] for 25 years. Because you don’t particularly like them! Besides, I already know what the captain of the football team is doing these days: mowing my lawn.

  33. Re:LIST OF EXHIBITS by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    dunno man, all of your examples seem to have been smashing successes by the overall profit numbers..

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  34. Betamax by JBMcB · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Betamax was only a failure in the consumer market. The professional version, Betacam, was one of the most widely used videotape formats for professionals. So, eh, kinda sorta a failure, I guess.

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    1. Re:Betamax by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Being a failure depends on the company releasing a product. Betamax may have been a professional success but Sony went to incredible lengths to target it at consumers and to try and make it the consumer format of choice. Looking at the list many of the products were technical marvels with awesome features.

      I kind of question Google Glass. Can a product that had a very limited run with a very limited release that was only really in beta and only really a trial for development be considered a "failure"? I mean it was called a prototype and it is still under active development...

      I can see why some companies would not want the devices associated as "failures"

    2. Re:Betamax by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      This reminds me of DAT, which was more or less banned from consumers, due to fears of copying CDs. Consumers were then offered MD and DCC with lossy compression instead. There are countless examples like this in electronics and computing today -- superior technology that was crippled due to various business reasons. There seem to be entire R&D branches that actively work against technological progress, spending money and time on removing features after they were first painstakingly developed.

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    3. Re:Betamax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      VHS succeeded because the first tapes could store 2 hours of video, Betamax tapes could only store 1 hour. That meant existing film movies could be rereleased on VHS, allowing for rental stores. That gives VHS a larger consumer market. VHS allowed users to record their own videos. Betamax may have had higher video quality, but that was only needed by the professional broadcast industry.

      It's strange going into a large antique store, seeing old furniture, elaborately designed glass bottles of all colors, vintage clothing, dusty books, old tins, valve radios and video camcorders.

    4. Re:Betamax by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Betamax lost because they didn't license it for porn, full stop. It's not because of the shorter tape length or anything else people think was the problem. It didn't lose because anyone worked against technological progress, it's because Sony worked against societal progress with their corporate prudism.

      DAT lost because it was a tape and we were getting CDs at the time. Now we have digital recorders which make DAT utterly and completely irrelevant, and I'm glad it never caught on because I probably would have wasted money on it. Ditto for Minidisc.

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    5. Re:Betamax by hackertourist · · Score: 1

      Betacam and Betamax may have used similar technology (and the same physical tape format), but they were incompatible. Betacam used a tape speed 6 times (IIRC) higher than Betamax, and they couldn't read each other's tapes. So "professional version" is a bit of a stretch.

    6. Re:Betamax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if by failure you mean the first (and until blockbuster video, only) movie rental place in my home town was 80% betamax, and 20% vhs for at least a decade
      Bluray was a bigger flop than betamax was, betamax was the "disruptive technology" that started it

    7. Re:Betamax by JBMcB · · Score: 1

      I would say, in terms of R&D money and effort spent, Sony probably got their money out of the Beta format. In that sense, I wouldn't exactly call it a failure. The consumer push was a write-off, but re-purposing the hardware for professional use paid off.

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  35. Re: LIST OF EXHIBITS by KGIII · · Score: 1

    If there was ever an appropriate thread for the 'you fail it' (links to goatse) guy...

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  36. The Usual Suspects. by westlake · · Score: 1

    When Betamax was introduced, most US TV sets had RF input only and a maximum color resolution of 330 lines. When Betamax was introduced, most US TV sets had RF input only and a maximum color resolution of 330 lines. It was impossible to record movies or sports conveniently --- and slow-motion and freeze-framing the action of the big game was a huge driving force in VCR sales. T

  37. you forgot windows TEN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you forgot windows TEN
    vista
    windows ME

    bill gates driving sober
    hollywood quality programming
    actors that think they will keep getting paid like arnold used too
    musicans that think the riaa will give them there money
    the nsa security see there wannabe wanna cry that lasted all of 1 day ( MASTER CODER SHIT HEAD RIGHT ThERE LOL)

    americans once NAFTA is gutted and canada goes with there NEW EU FREE TRADE partners
    americans once mexico and canada decide ya we dont need you , you need us.
    the american TECH industry ( HOWS INDIA WORKIN FOR YA)
    detroit - biggest garbage dump on earth

    man i could go on forever its hilarious how the OP and american thinks his self delided self is actually important

    1. Re: you forgot windows TEN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could use an Economics class. North America is the United States for all intents and purposes.
      Also a spelling class. Everything you were trying to say was horribly undermined.

    2. Re:you forgot windows TEN by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Let's not forget your English class.

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    3. Re: you forgot windows TEN by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      North America is the United States for all intents and purposes.

      Much like Europe is Germany, right? :)

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    4. Re: you forgot windows TEN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah im perfect it is everyone else that got the Language misunderstod.

  38. Didn't they already have this? by thegameiam · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Vasa museum is a commemoration of a spectacular failure (and is a good museum). That's naval history rather than modern tech, but the principles are the same.

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  39. What? No Samsung Note 7? by mnemotronic · · Score: 1

    Never mind. They had one but it self-emolated.

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  40. Re:Will they exhibit the Swedish Immigration polic by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    It appears that residents of Malmö aren't required to keep a stick firmly implanted up their backsides, unlike Stockholmers, yes.

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  41. Beta a failure? by Cipheron · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Betamax recorders were in production for almost 40 years, the tapes were produced for 50 years. That's a high level of longevity for any digital format. Production of the units survived right into the DVD era, and it's probably DVDs which killed it in the end, not VHS. VHS had 40 years to kill it, and failed.

    Additionally, Betcam is still in production as is HDCAM, they have two form factors, one of which is the same as Betamax, if you watch any anime, they are still almost all mastered on HDCAM, i.e. high-definition version of Betamax tapes.

    It's only a very limited viewpoint that considers Betamax a flop / failed product. If we're going that far we should consider Apple Macs a failure because Windows is industry-standard.

    1. Re:Beta a failure? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Betamax recorders were in production for almost 40 years, the tapes were produced for 50 years. That's a high level of longevity for any digital format.

      Okay, but it's not a digital format, except for the audio on super beta, which by the way statistically nobody ever had.

      It's only a very limited viewpoint that considers Betamax a flop / failed product.

      The goal was to compete with VHS, which it never did successfully. It was always an also-ran. It's only a very limited, Sony-dick-riding viewpoint that doesn't think Betamax was a failure. Betacam SP used the same technology but not the same mechanisms or tapes; it's not Betamax, it's Betacam! So people bringing that up are daft. It's like attributing 1" VTR numbers to VHS.

      If we're going that far we should consider Apple Macs a failure because Windows is industry-standard.

      Apple is not a failure because they have all the money. Sony has never had all the money.

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    2. Re:Beta a failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't see Beta as a failure if you can still buy brand new tapes... http://www.frys.com/product/7528026?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

    3. Re:Beta a failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Betamax was introduced in 1975, so that would mean that the tape must have been produced for at least eight years before any recorders. No wonder it failed

  42. Re: Will they exhibit the Swedish Immigration poli by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you know that sexual assault crimes has increased by over 1000% in Sweden in three years?

    You wouldn't if you lived in Sweden. They put people in prison if they say it.

  43. I do hope they included by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their immigration policy.

    Captcha "decline". How fitting.

  44. Difficult Design Challenge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, because battery compartments are such a profound mystery. You know, except for the billions of devices (calculators, watches, phones, remotes, answering machines, clock radios, garage door openers, etc.) that implement them without fuss or drama.

    I've also replaced batteries in larger devices like UPS units and been impressed at how quick, clean and safe the whole procedure was.

  45. Sometimes, rejection is a good sign. by Picodon · · Score: 1

    I thought it would be easy to get them to collaborate but none of them -- zero -- chose to cooperate.

    This lack of cooperation from the designer should in fact be a requirement for allowing their artifact in the museum.
    It is the surest sign that it really does belong there.

  46. Re:What? No Samsung Note 7? by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    It's right next to the big fire extinguisher.

  47. Huh. by Fieryphoenix · · Score: 1

    I really wouldn't have expected an endeavor like that to succeed.

  48. Re: Will they exhibit the Swedish Immigration pol by Frankzy · · Score: 1

    lol

  49. Re:Missing Failures by scsirob · · Score: 0

    You beat me to it. But I'm sure the target audience will (politically) correct that.

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  50. It feels like this museum might be a case of recur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope they don't mention themselves or we might have an endless loop coming on.

  51. Re:LIST OF EXHIBITS by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    My love life should get an entire wing.

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  52. Re: Will they exhibit the Swedish Immigration poli by Kiuas · · Score: 5, Informative

    Did you know that sexual assault crimes has increased by over 1000% in Sweden in three years?

    Did you know that this claim is total BS? Look at the numbers:

    “What criminologists do is to look at the 10-year, 20-year development. Then we can see the trends. Year to year, it’s impossible to judge why changes occur,” he added.

    An example of a figure from Brå’s statistics which paints one picture in isolation but a different one with further context is that the number of rapes reported in Sweden increased by 13 percent in 2016 to 6,560.

    But when that number is compared to 2014, where the number of reported rapes was 6,700, then a slight decrease can actually be seen. In other words, the number of reported rapes in Sweden dipped in 2015 (down by 12 percent to 5,920) then in 2016 it returned to around the same level as 2014.

    Seen over a ten-year period, the number of reported rapes has gone up from 4,208 in 2006, partly because of legislative changes in the previous year and in 2013 broadening the definition, according to Brå.

    According to Brå's figures, 10,500 incidents of sexual molestation were reported in the country in 2016 – a striking increase of 20 percent on 2015 (when 8,840 were reported).

    But once again, 2015 was a year when reported sexual molestation had dropped significantly – it was down by eight percent that year compared to 2014, when 9,640 incidents were reported.

    “The number of crimes reported can depend very much on the propensity to report,” Sarnecki noted.

    The definition of rape in >weden is broader than elsewhere in the west, including stuff that elsewhere would be charged under sexual harassment. Secondly the reporting works differently in that they estimate the total amount of offenses: So if a wife reports that her husband has been having sex with her against her will dozens of times, in most places it's filed as a single case of suspected rape for the national crime stats, but in Sweden they count each suspected instance separately meaning that a single case can easily generate tens or hundreds of incidents of rape for the stats. This means comparing Swedish stats to other western nations directly is not really sensible.

    You wouldn't if you lived in Sweden. They put people in prison if they say it.

    Lol, I can guarantee you've never lived in Sweden (me neither but I live next door in Finland and visit regularly and have friends there) . There's extensive discussion about crime stats as there's one party in the parliament that's trying to do exactly what you're trying to do, which is to insinuate that the fluctuation in the numbers is due to immigrants somehow raping people en masse on the streets, which is simply not true.

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  53. Not worth it by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    It should have read:

    "Museum of failure fails to open"

  54. The Request Letter... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope the museum displays the letter requesting donation of failed products as a paradoxical failure. The letter failed to gather donations, thereby ensuring that the letter itself was display-worthy and a success in terms of boosting museum stocks. The museum cannot display a successful letter, which makes it a failure...

  55. Success from seeming failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Failures" can lead to successes.

    In the early 1980s(?), San Francisco passed a law that required taxis to have a special kind of brake light on the back of the taxi. The light had to blink when the taxi driver was pressing on the brakes. The idea was that the blinking light would alert other drivers to the fact that the taxi was braking, and that this alert would cut down on accidents.

    The problem was that the blinking light was very distracting for other drivers. So the SF government reversed itself, and removed that requirement. So the short-lived law seemed like an expensive failure.

    But shortly afterward, third brake lights (CHMSLs) started being much more popular than they had been. If your car didn't have one built into it, you could go to a car repair place and get one put onto it. You got a discount on your car insurance if your car had a CHMSL.

    Since CHMSLs became popular so soon after the SF taxi brake law, I'm guessing that the SF taxi law (a seeming failure) led to CHMSLs being popular, then mandatory, and preventing a lot of accidents.

  56. Re:Missing Failures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You beat me to it. But I'm sure the target audience will (politically) correct that.

    Maybe you should visit the country instead of reading about it on Breitbart from sources who claim to be experts on Sweden and haven't been in the country for 20 years. Prices on vegetables and fruits could be lower though.

    But for some people a country like Sweden has to be a failure, because it doesn't fit their world view.

  57. Re:Missing Failures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What multiculturalism, the darkies that are raping your daughter in the ass while you are at work?

  58. I'd wish this museum success by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but that doesn't seem in the spirit of it.

  59. Failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What if the museum fails - should it then be a proper subset of itself?

  60. Re:But there's already a Museum of Failed Inventio by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    The only thing missing in there is my invention of an empty bottle that you can put in your fridge in case one of your guests doesn't want to drink anything.

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  61. Re:Missing Failures by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Why? Only now Swedes can understand what it feels like to live in a US metropolis. If that doesn't bring the cultures together, understanding each other's problems...

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  62. Re:LIST OF EXHIBITS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The real failure was that time your father forgot to use a condom.

  63. Re: Will they exhibit the Swedish Immigration poli by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 0

    There's extensive discussion about crime stats as there's one party in the parliament that's trying to do exactly what you're trying to do, which is to insinuate that the fluctuation in the numbers is due to immigrants somehow raping people en masse on the streets, which is simply not true.

    Well, if it were immediately obvious upon entering Swedish streets, heads would roll. Increased crime always lives in the region between not happening at all and people going into civil war for it, so of course you won't see that.

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  64. Did it open on schedule? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just asking...

  65. The biggest failure of a programmer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The biggest failure as a programmer is Andy Williams of Dewsbury. The highlight of his career was writing a program called WAN.EXE. This prompted for your name on the command line then wrote your name followed by " is a wanker"

    Please mod as informative

  66. Re:But there's already a Museum of Failed Inventio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...it's in Austria:
    http://nation.com.pk/entertain...

    The interesting thing is, if either this austrlian museum or the swedish museum close due to poor attendance they can always acquire each others collections :)

    The Austrian museum could just create an exhibit about the Swedish museum.

  67. Re:But there's already a Museum of Failed Inventio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you thinking of starting up a Museum of failed Fail Museums ?

  68. Re: Will they exhibit the Swedish Immigration pol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's some top tier lawyer tap dancing shilling you did there. Congratulations on being a rape apologist.

    Of course you can twist "statistics" to make it appear more rosey, when you are willing to redefine what "is" is (or in this case "rape")

    You seem to like studies. How about you investigate the poll of Stockholm women released two weeks ago, which showed a majority afraid to leave the home after dark, and 1/3rd having experienced unwanted sexual touching by African or Arab migrants.

  69. Can it add itself? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2

    Let us say, they have vastly overestimated the revenue potential of failure porn. When this museum fails, would it add itself as the last entry before going defunct?

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  70. google eternal beta program by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    5 years in beta for gmail. What would you call that much time if they were not willing to say this is done?

  71. Re: Will they exhibit the Swedish Immigration pol by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    Of course you can twist "statistics" to make it appear more rosey, when you are willing to redefine what "is" is (or in this case "rape")

    Yeah, that's precisely what you're doing. Because GP showed how the statistics are not directly comparable, but you want to compare them anyway.

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  72. Re:What? No Samsung Note 7? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Never mind. They had one but it self-emolated.

    Were you going for an insensible pun about emokids here, or should everyone just ignore everything you say forever and ever amen because you use words you don't understand?

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  73. well now, lemme see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (now some of these may have been great products that ultimately and unfortunately began, contributed to, or represent the demise of a product market or line for the corresponding company -- the edsel (aka "the lemon"), the nova car on sale in spanish speaking countries, what was the representative palm?, blackberry storm, windows phone, the galaxy note, the franklin covey planner, ...

    a couple of these saw stellar product lives but for one reason or another had market share shrivel up for one or more reasons.

  74. Risky... by doug141 · · Score: 1

    If the museum has low attendance, the name will take a whole new meaning.

  75. Windows Millennium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I would have sent my copy but I've already donated it to the London Dungeon for their modern horror exhibition.
    Rob Howells

  76. Help me fund... by martiniturbide · · Score: 1

    ...my "Musseum of Bad Taste"

  77. Cue Cat by StatureOfLiberty · · Score: 2

    They definitely need to have a "Cue Cat" on display.

  78. Trump Board Game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bought the Trump board game over 20 years ago when it was first released. It is an advanced, deal-based version of Monopoly, and I still enjoy it to this day. Hardly a failure!

  79. Trump Presidential Library by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

    I hear they're working on a deal to host the Trump Presidential Library.

    It will be 'uge. The best library in human history. Because he has all the best words, and will be donating them! Well, except stupid, because that is the best word, so he's keeping that one for himself.

    I have the best, but there is no better word than stupid. Right? There is none, there is none. There’s no, there’s no, there’s no word like that

    (actual DJT quote)

    But it will still have so many words, you'll be sick of all that reading.

  80. An entire wing by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    Ah yes, the Museum of Failure...

    I understand that they have an entire wing devoted to my ex-wife.

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  81. Good place for it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Swedes are the most sad sack loser people on the planet. They worship failure. They love failing

    It's called stockholm syndrome for a reason.

  82. Re:But there's already a Museum of Failed Inventio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And here is our meta-exhibit of failures that were previously in a failure museum that failed.

    Delicious.

  83. Domino's knows. by BenBoy · · Score: 1

    Remember Domino's sorta-brilliant "Failure is an Option." campaign? Trying new things that might not work moved a moribund business into a pizza to be reckoned with.

  84. Yugo a Failure? by oshkrozz · · Score: 1

    Yugo were in production for over 40 years, they had to stop briefly because NATO bombed their manufacturing plant, however, that did not stop them (despite an obvious sign from God).

    That is a high level of longevity for a vehicle that you could replace most of the parts with tinfoil and duct tape.

    It has even won an award in Car Talk magazine (ok granted it was worst car of the century)

    Only a very limited viewpoint would consider it flop

    1. Re:Yugo a Failure? by Cipheron · · Score: 1

      The Yugo was a government product without any competition. Betamax survived in a free market for that long. Completely different kettle of fish.

  85. Purpose to my life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My only remaining goal in life is to somehow become a large enough failure to have a place in their prestigious museum.

  86. Re:What? No Samsung Note 7? by mnemotronic · · Score: 1

    Ok mr never-makes-a-typo. "self-immolated".

    What can I say. Chrome spell-checker didn't complain.

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  87. Re: Will they exhibit the Swedish Immigration poli by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The leftist feminists (SJWs) blames white Swedish males for all sexual assualts and rapes

  88. Let me the first to nominate ... by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    The good country of Pakistan. Failure of the first order.

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  89. Scope Creep Taken to its Logical Conclusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Swedish king says "We need to project our Naval power by adding more decks full of canons to my new ship"
    The naval architect says "That'll make it too top-heavy!"
    The king says "We need to add more bronze statues to the upper decks to show them who's the boss"
    The naval architect says "Not a good idea!"
    The king says "Do it!"
    The ship gets launched, and promptly rolls over and sinks to the bottom of the harbor.
    End of Swedish naval power in the Baltic.

  90. Or Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe a failure of the opening of the Museum of Failure could be considered a huge success, in keeping with the museum's mandate and theme? The perfect way to open a "Museum of Failure"?

    Inquiring minds want to know!

  91. RetroSpective by easyTree · · Score: 1

    This week's RetroSpective discusses Sweden's 'Museum of Failure' which last year became the first museum to include itself as an exhibit.

    <Documentary-article continues in the textually-warm tones exuded by a seventies icon wearing brown and orange, whilst draped over a sunken sofa>.

  92. The Fail MuseumÂs biggest failure is itself. by aliquis · · Score: 1

    The Fail MuseumÂs biggest failure is itself.

  93. Re:What? No Samsung Note 7? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    What can I say. Chrome spell-checker didn't complain.

    Maybe Chrome is the emo browser.

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  94. Re: Will they exhibit the Swedish Immigration poli by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are quite simply a liar and the Swedish government is covering up crime stats:
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/...

  95. HD Perfume? by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

    Did it smell like ass? Real toilet water?

    Yea.. Dear Company, you had a really sucky product and we're opening a museum of failure, could you help us with one of your failures? They expected them to respond? Really?