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Congressman Steve Scalise Among 5 Shot at Baseball Field (nytimes.com)

From a New York Times report: A lone gunman opened fire on Republican members of the congressional baseball team at a practice field in a Washington suburb Wednesday, using a rifle to shower the field with bullets that struck five people, including Steve Scalise, the majority whip of the House of Representatives. Two members of Mr. Scalise's protective police detail were wounded as they exchanged gunfire with the shooter in what other lawmakers described as a chaotic, terror-filled ten minutes that turned the baseball practice into an early-morning nightmare. Police said a total of five people were shot, two critically. Standing at second base, Mr. Scalise was struck, in the hip, according to witnesses, and collapsed as the shots rang out, one after another, from behind a chain-link fence near the third-base dugout. Witnesses said Mr. Scalise, of Louisiana, "army crawled" his way toward taller grass as the shooting continued. Alternative source: NBC News, CNN, BBC, NPR, WashingtonPost, and WSJ.

Update: 06/14 15:40 GMT: In remarks at the White House, President Trump said the Alexandria shooting suspect has died from injuries.

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  1. Re:Hate filled libtard by Kierthos · · Score: 5, Informative

    Early reports are wrong. It was not the shooter who asked if the players were Republican or Democrats.

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  2. Re:Ban all cars by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Informative

    1. Guns kill more people in the US every year than car accidents.

    It looks like the CDC has them virtually neck and neck. I would dare say, if you removed the suicide gun deaths, and justified shootings where it was a "bad guy" that died.... I would guess the numbers would be a good bit lower than traffic deaths.

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  3. Re:So It Begins. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Frazier Glenn Miller Jr.
    Robert Lewis Dear
    Anders Behring Breivik
    Scott Roeder
    Wade Michael Page

    Just a few names, and hardly exhaustive, I didn't list all of the people who have committed violence against mosques, synagogues and other places in the name of Christ.

  4. Re:Ban all cars by gantzm · · Score: 4, Informative

    2015 vehicle deaths: 35,092.

    2015 gun deaths: 13,485 ( Not including suicides. )

    Your data seems inaccurate.

    Including suicides puts them just about event.

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  5. Re:Hate filled libtard by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Informative

    What violent acts by the GOP in any form of recent history?

    http://www.newsweek.com/homegr...

    https://www.adl.org/news/press...

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  6. Re:Hate filled libtard by MobyDisk · · Score: 3, Informative

    Early reports say he first walked up to there, unarmed asking "Hey, are these republicans or democrats?"...

    That quote is waay to politically charged to go uncited. So here it is: Rep. Ron DeSantis said he was asked, “Are those Republicans or Democrats out there practicing?”

  7. Re:Thoughts and prayers by ganjadude · · Score: 5, Informative

    gun violence is down and has been going down for decades now.....

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  8. Re:Sanders supporting liberal socalist by Ksevio · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, he said "nothing you can do folks, although the 2nd amendment people maybe there is, I don't know" in regards to picking judges if Hillary wins. You give him a lot more credit than he deserves.

  9. Re:Hate filled libtard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Definitely a Democrat.

    Why?
    1. Dylan Roof liked to burn the American flag.
    2. Was a skinhead, tied to KKK group. KKK founded by Democrats to destroy Republican reconstruction efforts in the south. KKK = Democrats.
    3. Dylan Roof prop of choice was Confederate flag. History lesson: Confederate flag = Democrats. Northern states (the Union) led by Republicans.

  10. Re:Hate filled libtard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Jared Laughner shot a democratic congresswoman in the face. There have been numerous shootings and bombings at abortion clinics, at least 5 major incidents. Some of these are attributed to the Army of God, which also bombed some gay night clubs. The bombing of the 1996 Atlanta Olympics was carried out by Eric Rudolph who wanted to fight against abortion and the "homosexual agenda." There's the Phineas Priesthood responsible for plotting and sometimes succeeding in blowing up gay night clubs, FBI buildings, abortion clinics, etc. Let's not forget the unabomber's reign of terror. Let's not forget the Oklahoma City bombing. Or the Charleston Church shooting. Or the Sihk temple shooting.

    Of course I understand that a few nutcases with right leaning ideology doesn't mean all of those with right leaning ideology are unable to differentiate right from wrong. Surely you know that not everybody on the left is about to start taking pot shots at those on the right, don't you?

  11. Re:Hate filled libtard by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Informative

    2. Was a skinhead, tied to KKK group. KKK founded by Democrats to destroy Republican reconstruction efforts in the south. KKK = Democrats. 3. Dylan Roof prop of choice was Confederate flag. History lesson: Confederate flag = Democrats. Northern states (the Union) led by Republicans.

    Mid 1800s Democrats=modern day Republicans in terms of political leanings. Your argument is disingenuous at best.

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  12. Re:And gun violence in the USA is up... by Tailhook · · Score: 5, Informative

    Almost every place in the world has seen gun violence go down in the last 20-30 years. Almost... the USA is the exception as usual

    Allow me to inject a little reality using a source you doubtless regard as truth incarnate: Washington Post, 2015: We’ve had a Massive Decline in gun violence in the United States. Here’s why

    This decline in gun violence is part of an overall decline in violent crime. According to the FBI's data, the national rate of violent crime has decreased 49 percent since its apex in 1991. Even as a certain type of mass shooting is apparently becoming more frequent, America has become a much less violent place.

    You're worldview is fictional. You've been inculcated with fictional nonsense about the US and you're regurgitating it all over the interwebs.

    You'll note that wapo at no point credited gun control for the "massive decline." You'll then dismiss that as it fails to align with the fictions you prefer to indulge. The massive decline corresponds to a period in which firearm ownership and concealed carry in the US have both grown at phenomenal rates. There is no correlation between the growth of firearms and gun violence; exactly the opposite. Another reality you'll need to subsume under your preferred bullshit narrative.

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  13. Re: Hate filled libtard by Jhon · · Score: 4, Informative

    "You saw this for days in the streets after Trump won..."

    You also saw a LOT of news about Trump supporters attacking, beating, vandalizing or intimidating people of various ethnicities or ideologies. Of course, they either couldn't be verified or turned out to be out-right fakes by folks on the "other side" who felt they needed to lie or stage fake hate because... TRUMP. Not out of any rational fear based on reality -- just irrational fear of living in their own echo-chambers for so long.

  14. Re:Media hate campaign by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Informative

    What's your point? You're cool with hate campaigns as long as the hate is consistent? No one should oppose organized hatred who didn't also say specific words at some arbitrary time in the past?

    No, my point is that your outrage is inconsistent. I'm calling you a hypocrite.

    You're responding to a call to cool off the hate campaigns with ad hominems?

    No, I'm responding to you specifically saying it's a problem with "the left" when you have neo-nazis among your rank.

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  15. Re:Gun Control by ganjadude · · Score: 2, Informative

    gifford was shot by a left wing nutjob, NOT a right wing one, stop trying to spin the story

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  16. Re:And gun violence in the USA is up... by Nite_Hawk · · Score: 5, Informative

    I agree with you wholeheartedly. The US has seen a massive decline in violent crime in general, along with a decline in teen pregnancies. There is no correlation between increased gun-ownership, increased conceal-and-carry, and increased violent crime.

    While it's only a theory and correlation does not strictly imply causation, I cautiously subscribe to the lead-crime hypothesis:

    "Second, this correlation holds true with no exceptions. Every country studied has shown this same strong correlation between leaded gasoline and violent crime rates. Within the United States, you can see the data at the state level. Where lead concentrations declined quickly, crime declined quickly. Where it declined slowly, crime declined slowly. The data even holds true at the neighborhood level - high lead concentrations correlate so well that you can overlay maps of crime rates over maps of lead concentrations and get an almost perfect fit.

    Third, and probably most important, the data goes beyond just these models. As Drum himself points out, "if econometric studies were all there were to the story of lead, you'd be justified in remaining skeptical no matter how good the statistics look." But the chemistry and neuroscience of lead gives us good reason to believe the connection. Decades of research has shown that lead poisoning causes significant and probably irreversible damage to the brain. Not only does lead degrade cognitive abilities and lower intelligence, it also degrades a person's ability to make decisions by damaging areas of the brain responsible for "emotional regulation, impulse control, attention, verbal reasoning, and mental flexibility."

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/a...
    http://www.motherjones.com/env...
      http://www.bbc.com/news/magazi...

  17. Re:Sanders supporting liberal socalist by WrongMonkey · · Score: 3, Informative

    Look what happens on the college campuses - no one gets arrested for the violence

    False. http://www.dailycal.org/2017/0...

    https://www.insidehighered.com...

    http://komonews.com/news/local...

    Liberal media pretty much ignoring the violent left protests

    Also false. See prior links.

    Politicians regularly using heated rhetoric

    Like how Trump endorsed violence throughout his campaign?