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Wind, Solar Surpassed 10 Percent of US Electricity In March, Says EIA (thehill.com)

According to the Energy Department's Energy Information Administration, wind and solar produced 10 percent of the electricity generated in the U.S. for the first time in March. The Hill reports: The Energy Information Administration's (EIA) monthly power report for March found that wind produced 8 percent of the electricity produced in the U.S. that month, with solar producing 2 percent. The two sources combined to have their best month ever in terms of percentage of overall electricity production, EIA said. The agency expects the two sources topped 10 percent again in April but forecasts that their generation will fall below that mark during the summer months. Due to the way geographic wind patterns affect the generation of electricity, the two sources typically combine for their best months in the spring and fall. Annually, wind and solar made up 7 percent of electric generation in 2016, EIA said.

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  1. Trump won't let this stand by Socguy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Get ready for federal 'tweaking' to prevent further renewable growth. Time to tax renewables so that coal can be competitive again. Now that renewables are seriously starting to cut into market share, special interests are going to pull out all the stops to make sure nothing changes.

    1. Re:Trump won't let this stand by blindseer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Most M.E. oil goes to Europe and other countries.

      That's true but oil is traded on the global market. If an area that produces a lot of oil is all of the sudden not producing oil because of war then oil gets expensive even for those that don't buy oil from that area. That oil has to be replaced by those that continue to produce oil, and increasing production costs money.

      I'm not saying that this justifies US military involvement in the Middle East. Quite the opposite in fact. I say let them fight it out amongst themselves. I also say we need to make it clear that we will trade with people that can act kindly to their neighbors, treat their citizens and visitors with respect, and generally act with civility. This trade can include weapons if they like. Keeping the peace does mean being prepared to go to war after all.

      The way to allow the USA to not concern itself with what goes on there is to produce enough energy on our own that whatever happens in the Middle East will have minimal effect on prices we pay here. We can do this by drilling for more oil, digging for more coal, putting up more windmills, and building more nuclear power plants.

      I've had people tell me that building nuclear power plants will do nothing for the price of oil because oil is primarily for vehicle fuel while nuclear power is primarily used for electricity. I've seen the opposite though. Energy is energy. People will use whatever is cheapest.

      I grew up on a farm and I've seen gasoline driven augers and electric driven augers used to move corn. There's advantages to both but in the end it comes down to cost on which the farmer will choose to use. Go to Sears, or wherever you might see lawn mowers and such, and you will see electric mowers next to the gasoline powered ones. This happens on the small scale with suburban yards to mow. On the medium scale with the family farm. Why would this not happen on an industrial scale?

      Oil is oil and energy is energy. An economy needs energy. To decouple the USA from the Middle East militarily means that the Middle East needs to be decoupled from the world economically.

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      I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
    2. Re:Trump won't let this stand by blind+biker · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And then there's coal, ability to hand-wave away externalities like release of fissile nuclear elements into the air..

      People are (rightfully, to some extent) caught up with the radioactive shit that is released by the coal energy industry, but they forget the much worse stuff, mercury, lead, cadmium and other neurotoxic stuff. Especially mercury.

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      "The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
  2. A Red is Wind Blowing by cosmicl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Turns out a lot of this wind power is coming from "red" states, like Kansas for example. From the nytimes https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0... "Two years ago, Kansas repealed a law requiring that 20 percent of the state’s electric power come from renewable sources by 2020, seemingly a step backward on energy in a deeply conservative state. Yet by the time the law was scrapped, it had become largely irrelevant. Kansas blew past that 20 percent target in 2014, and last year generated more than 30 percent of its power from wind. The state may be the first in the country to hit 50 percent wind generation in a year or two, unless Iowa gets there first. Some of the fastest progress on clean energy is occurring in states led by Republican governors and legislators, and states carried by Donald J. Trump in the presidential election."

    1. Re:A Red is Wind Blowing by amiga3D · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In mid Georgia we've got cotton being replaced by solar panels. My last trip to Columbus I drove through Taylor county, a lot of red clay that used to grow cotton. Those areas are covered by mile upon mile of solar panels as far as the eye can see. It's a brilliant thing considering that when they produce the best is the same time when A/C units are working hardest. The green revolution is here and it's paying it's own way. It continues just fine without subsidies because it makes money. Money talks.

  3. Re:What happens when you eliminate subsidies? by guises · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Where does this subsidies rumor keep coming from? Yes the subsidies may have been the deciding factor at first, but they did their job and drove down costs as the new technologies gained wider adoption. It's been years now since then. Here, the Energy Information Administration publishes an annual forecast on the costs of different sources of energy. You can see that the cost ($/MWh) before subsidies is lower for onshore wind than anything save geothermal and basically tied with natural gas (but only natural gas plants which do not capture carbon emissions). And the cost for photovoltaic solar before subsidies is just above that, more expensive than hydroelectric but still cheaper than nuclear, biomass, etc.

    There's some variation there depending on how you measure, you can see there are multiple charts, but in none of those are solar or wind dependent on subsidies to be more cost effective than most of their competition.

  4. Re:What happens when you eliminate subsidies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What a load of crap. Oil is subsidized even more, and you pay for that with increased taxes AND increased healthcare costs AND increased military costs. Kickstarting solar/wind is a smart long term thinking solution. Oil is on the long downward slope now. And the NDP was not killed by bad policies but by big banks and corporations who stood to lose when the gov't put people first, rather than corporations.