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Apple CEO Tim Cook Shares His Experience Of Working With President Donald Trump (bloomberg.com)

In a wide-ranging interview with Bloomberg, Apple CEO Tim Cook talked about his experience of working with Donald Trump. He said: I feel a great responsibility as an American, as a CEO, to try to influence things in areas where we have a level of expertise. I've pushed hard on immigration. We clearly have a very different view on things in that area. I've pushed on climate. We have a different view there. There are clearly areas where we're not nearly on the same page. We're dramatically different. I hope there's some areas where we're not. His focus on jobs is good. So we'll see. Pulling out of the Paris climate accord was very disappointing. I felt a responsibility to do every single thing I could for it not to happen. I think it's the wrong decision. If I see another opening on the Paris thing, I'm going to bring it up again. At the end of the day, I'm not a person who's going to walk away and say, "If you don't do what I want, I leave." I'm not on a council, so I don't have those kind of decisions. But I care deeply about America. I want America to do well. America's more important than bloody politics from my point of view. Let me give you an example of this. Veterans Affairs has struggled in providing health care to veterans. We have an expertise in some of the things at the base level that they're struggling with. So we're going to work with them. I could give a crap about the politics of it. I want to help veterans. My dad's a veteran. My brother served. We have so many military folks in Apple. These folks deserve great health care. So we're going to keep helping.

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  1. Apple sitting on billions and tax evader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Help Americans, sure you do Timmy.

    1. Re: Apple sitting on billions and tax evader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Be brave, bring back those billions, pay some tax and create jobs.

    2. Re:Apple sitting on billions and tax evader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, he's openly gay, your point being?

    3. Re:Apple sitting on billions and tax evader by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, it's because Apple's preferred upgrade path is that you need to buy a whole new computer.

    4. Re:Apple sitting on billions and tax evader by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And that's a really green thing to do.

      If by "green" they mean money instead of the environment.

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    5. Re: Apple sitting on billions and tax evader by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Be brave, bring back those billions, pay some tax and create jobs.

      Well, to be fair, the current administration *IS* working on legislation (hopefully soon) to allow for repatriation of Apple and other companies' tax dollars offshore....at a reasonable rate.

      You can't blame a company or an individual for taking every LEGAL tax write off and advantage that is offered to them.

      Do you not take every deduction you can? Do you offer to pay more tax than you have to?

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    6. Re: Apple sitting on billions and tax evader by mspohr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are serious questions about whether or not what Apple is doing with their overseas funds is legal. The EU has better enforcement and has been after them the clean up their act and pay fines.
      I think Apple is pushing the bounds of legality and is certainly corrupt in their behaviour.
      As for me, I follow the law and pay the tax that is due. I don't go out of my way to set up dummy foreign corporations to hide my profits (although I have had advisors who recommended I do this).

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  2. Yes, vets deserve great healthcare by MangoCats · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Doesn't it follow that non-vets deserve at least accessible basic healthcare?

    1. Re:Yes, vets deserve great healthcare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why would it follow that everyone else deserves something merely for existing?

      Because, to quote Will Munny, "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it". Why the fuck do people have this fetish about feeling like they should have a say in what another human being "deserves". Fuck that self-centered viewpoint.

      If you give two shits about your country and your fellow citizens then you should want them to be healthy and not completely broke. Healthy people who make a livable wage don't have to worry about their medical bills piling up so they can focus on other things like maybe training for a better job or, even better, buying shit which is the only way to grow the economy.

      Once you start worrying about who deserves what you've already started down the wrong path. Not everyone is you. Not everyone has the same opportunities. It's not a matter of "deserve" it's a matter of decency.

  3. Where they agree... by RobinH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Where Tim and Donald agree is that neither of them or their companies should have to pay US tax.

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    1. Re:Where they agree... by fred6666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Their employees pay income tax, their customers pay sales tax, how many taxes can they stand?

      How about as much as democratically decided by the people?

    2. Re:Where they agree... by vux984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I assume you take every tax deduction and break that you are legally entitled to, why shouldn't anyone else?

      Framing it like this suggests that the wealthiest people and corporations 'avoiding' taxes are just following the law, like anyone else.

      But its not like anyone else, these are the people who first re-wrote the law, who then lobbied government to pass the law, and then who contribute handsomely to elected officials to ensure the law stays put.

      Don't compare what Apple does to what I do. Its not in the same league.

    3. Re:Where they agree... by maiden_taiwan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's a great philosophy if tax laws came from, say, God. But in reality, tax laws are strongly influenced by wealthy corporations to their advantage. You and I, the average individual, have virtually no chance of influencing a single tax law. So the breaks that we are "entitled to" are thrust on us, whereas corporations write their own breaks. Still think it's fair?

  4. Re:Elites responsible ... what a crock by XXongo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Mr. Cook, with all due respect, how can you claim to be remotely "responsible" while your lifestyle, and the lifestyles of those like you, is destroying our society and our environment.

    I'm curious as to what you know about Cook's "lifestyle". I will venture the guess "absolutely nothing whatsoever."

  5. "I could give a crap about the politics of it" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Meetings with Tim must be fun when he says the opposite of what he actually means. You'd hope that a CEO or one of the world's largest companies would at least have a grasp of basic English.

  6. Create jobs? You start first Apple by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple has FAR greater ability to create jobs than the federal government does as a general proposition. Apple is sitting on a gigantic war chest of money. If Tim Cook really gave a shit about creating jobs he could spend some of that Scrooge McDuck pile of money on something. Saying he supports Trump on job creation is a bunch of bullshit unless he is actually directing his company to do everything it can to create jobs. He hasn't done this so he's lying about that.

    The only reason for Apple to sit on a pile of cash that large is because they cannot figure out something productive to do with the money. So they should either return it to shareholders or find some way to put it to productive use.

    Veterans Affairs has struggled in providing health care to veterans. We have an expertise in some of the things at the base level that they're struggling with. So we're going to work with them. I could give a crap about the politics of it. I want to help veterans. My dad's a veteran. My brother served. We have so many military folks in Apple. These folks deserve great health care. So we're going to keep helping.

    The VA needs help to be sure but how about solving the bigger problem? EVERYONE needs health care, not just veterans. EVERYONE needs health insurance, not just veterans. IT in medicine sucks terribly for the most part. Apple has done nothing to tackle this problem. That would be a great place to invest some of those billions they have on their balance sheet. Buy some medical records companies and get busy. Do something rather than talking to Trump which is probably a waste of time.

  7. Tim Cook ain't no Steve Jobs by I75BJC · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When the leadership of any corporation has more concern for politics, political issues than its people, products and investors, that leadership has lost its way. Steve Jobs was approached by a large charity (possibly United Way) who wanted Apple to support the charity directly. Reportedly, Steve Jobs told the charity that he paid his people well and if the charity wanted to directly ask his employees for support, to go ahead but that Apple, as a corporation, would not. Jobs did not dilute the energy, activities, and resources of Apple to support the charity. He believed it was a "personal" issue and seemed happy for Apple employees to support whatever charities that they, individually, wanted to support. Tim Cook, on the other had, likes to throw Apple into every one of his pet projects. I am not make comment on the value of his "causes" (I agree with many of them) but his short-sighted business strategy. At this time, Apple needs to "buck up" and come out with Jobesque style renovations and revolutionary products. Tim Cook has led Apple into no such products. Even the driverless, electric car is years away and, probably, with today's technology unreachable for Apple. Flouting a non-existent product is a poor business strategy.

  8. Worthy sentiment by XXongo · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Although the article here seems tailor made to bring out both the political flames as well as the Apple-bashing flames, I would like to say that I admire this attitude.

    I wish there were more people with the attitude that they want to do what they can to fix what problems they can, and that far too many people do instead say, "If you don't do what I want, I leave."

    I'm sorry you don't like Cook as a person, or Apple as a company. Nevertheless, this is a worthy sentiment that is worth emulating.

  9. Everyone has a right to health care by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A need does not create a right. People need health care, but it is NOT government's job to give everybody what they need.

    Fuck you for thinking that people don't have a right to receive health care. Everybody should have a right to be treated when they are sick without being bankrupted in the process. If you think otherwise then you are an asshole. Plenty of people work very hard and still end up with medical bills FAR beyond their ability to pay them. A few weeks stay in a hospital can easily cost six figures. The only institution that can solve this problem is the government and to pretend otherwise is both idiotic and cruel.

    Even taking ethics out of it, pure economic pragmatism should drive us to want to see everyone taken care of because if you don't insure everyone then you end up spending even more money when they inevitably end up in the ER and drive up costs for everyone.

    1. Re:Everyone has a right to health care by danbert8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why are all of the solutions for taxes to pay for healthcare instead of fixing the ridiculous medical billing system? My wife receives an every 4 week IV that the hospital bills $55k for. The solution to that isn't to make everyone else pay a share of the $55k, it's to figure out why a hospital charges a fee ridiculously out of proportion to the cost of treatment. Did I mention that this hospital is a non-profit government subsidiary? If you are wondering who is causing the problem, look at your government. They want everything to go through them so they can control the money.

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    2. Re:Everyone has a right to health care by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They have a right to receive health care, we all do.

      But you DON'T have a right to make ME give YOU health care.

      See the difference?

    3. Re:Everyone has a right to health care by AlanObject · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But you DON'T have a right to make ME give YOU health care.

      See the difference?

      I don't.

      If you have the right to make me pay for the Iraq war, which I didn't want, or the War on Drugs, which I didn't want, and many other things I didn't want, then why don't I (meaning a majority of voters) have the right to make you pay into a universal risk pool for health care?

    4. Re:Everyone has a right to health care by imgod2u · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Incidentally, having an NHS-style national healthcare system is the most effective way to drive down that $55k bill. Because no one on the consumer side will have more bargaining power than the Federal government. More importantly, part of that $55k is, as the GP mentioned, due to the hospital having to eat the cost of people without insurance going to the ER.

      Ultimately, the data out there shows that some level of nationalized healthcare leads to lower cost per person. With the US being double the cost/person of the next developed nation.

      That doesn't mean we have to go full NHS like the UK. I like the Australian model where the government provides a basic level of health insurance and anything beyond that is privatized.

  10. Re:Sentiment is worthless. Action matters. by taiwanjohn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Few companies are as well resourced to help change the world as Apple but sadly Apple and Cook are doing little with that opportunity.

    Sadly, our capitalist system is ill-suited to the kind of altruistic effort you describe. Fiduciary responsibility prevents most corporations from taking risks for the common good.

    I have what I call the Elon Musk Rule for Billionaires: If you're doing even 1/10th of the public good as Elon does, then you deserve your billions. But if you're just another hedge-funder, sitting on your Smaug hoard, then you -- or rather the fact that you are a billionaire -- is not doing any good for the rest of us. Furthermore, the fact that you are keeping all that coin in your hoard, and out of circulation, is in fact a detriment to the rest of us. You are nothing more than a blood-sucking parasite with a fancy suit and a Ferrari.

    It's worth noting that both SpaceX and Tesla were started as private companies (and SpaceX is still private) precisely because Elon knew he could never get away with such risky behavior as a public corporation.

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  11. except they make the rules by Texmaize · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You make this argument because it is Apple, and not a "dirty" oil company, because you likely believe Apple is a "good" socially responsible company, even if they are not.

    The problem is that these large companies hire expensive lawyers and lobbyists to make the rules. Apple is also guilty of this. So, this is not a simple case of "oooops, lookey here, i found me a deduction." It is more along the lines of, "I will donate X to your campaign, and you make me a 8x deduction. It is wrong and despicable. Don't forgive companies for doing this.....Especially Apple and Google, who claim to be socially responsible, then hides from paying taxes so less services can be provided. Hypocrites suck. No matter how much they put a good face eon it.

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  12. A common grammar. by HalfFlat · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Reading this was almost painful: Cook, like Trump, appears to be aiming at primary schoolers when it comes to complexity of expression.

    Sentences have on average fewer than nine words each and the majority are extremely simple in structure — the text has a Flesch–Kincaid grade level of only 4.5. He uses the word 'thing' instead of a more specific word or phrase on five different occasions.

    As with Trump, this lack of nuance and basic level of language seems at odds with what we would expect from the role. Is this really appropriate from a CEO of Apple?