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Putin Claims Russia Proposed a Cyber War Treaty In 2015 But the Obama Admin Ignored Them (qz.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Russian president Vladimir Putin (who denies any Russian part in the hacking) claims the Obama administration ignored a proposal in 2015 that might have avoided all of this. His administration suggested working out a cyber treaty with the US but was ignored by Obama officials, Putin told film director Oliver Stone in Showtime's four-part series broadcast this week. "A year and a half ago, in fall 2015, we made proposal to our American partners that we work through these issues and conclude a treaty on the rules of behavior in this sphere," he said in Stone's documentary The Putin Interviews. "The American side was silent, they didn't reply to us."
I think the more realistic explanation is that it was ignored because it means the U.S. would have to knock-off (or obfuscate behind a third party for purposes of deniability, because lets face it we're not going to stop doing it) a lot of the stuff it's doing. Everyone likes to think that they're the good guys, but the U.S. has a long history of interfering in foreign countries so it's laughable to suggest that not carrying out our own operations. But as you point out, there isn't much point in a meaningless treaty when both sides know that both they and the other side won't actually uphold it.
So you support the removal of historical statues and scrubbing of history? That's what you're talking about when you're saying that. Would you like me to point out all those fake hate crimes that Clinton and Bernie supporters claimed in order to get in the news and try making the "look at all this violence" that isn't actually happening and several of those people were criminally charged for false police reports. How about those muslims that were filing false police reports against Trump supporters. You want to talk about Loretta Lynch calling for people to violently attack people in the streets. How about when Tim Caine and Hillary did too.
Here I'll even help you for your next reply. Maybe you would like to toss in a claim that the kid in Quebec was a Trump supporter? Except he only like Trump because he holds a "US First" stance, much like LePen and several others. Want to know what's interesting on that one? He was a freverant leftist, who supported groups like the PQ(a leftist nationalist pro-separation Quebec group). You know there was another group like that in the past too, it was called the FLQ. They were marxist leftists with a pro-nationalist, pro-quebec separation stance. Just think if they were around today. How would you argue the marxist organization that just bombed downtown montreal, or kidnapped a politican and murdered him. Would that be a pro-Trump organization in your book?
How about groups like BAMN? That are far-leftist violent marxists, who believe that they're "fighting for free speech" by violently assaulting people.
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The Senate are serious about it, voting 98-2 for more sanctions on Russia; the House will probably follow suit. Trump would like to be buddies with Putin. The investigations should eventually find out how much sympathy and influence Russia has in the various other factions in Trump's Administration.