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Leaked Recording: Inside Apple's Global War On Leakers (theoutline.com)

Reader citadrianne writes: A recording of an internal briefing at Apple earlier this month obtained by The Outline sheds new light on how far the most valuable company in the world will go to prevent leaks about new products. The briefing, titled 'Stopping Leakers -- Keeping Confidential at Apple,' was led by Director of Global Security David Rice, Director of Worldwide Investigations Lee Freedman, and Jenny Hubbert, who works on the Global Security communications and training team. According to the hour-long presentation, Apple's Global Security team employs an undisclosed number of investigators around the world to prevent information from reaching competitors, counterfeiters, and the press, as well as hunt down the source when leaks do occur. Some of these investigators have previously worked at U.S. intelligence agencies like the National Security Administration (NSA), law enforcement agencies like the FBI and the U.S. Secret Service, and in the U.S. military. Top-notch reporting from The Outline, consider reading the full report. During the briefing, a company executive said they have been able to find two employees who leaked information to media.

81 comments

  1. The Irony by XXongo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course, the irony of a leak about leakers being leaked is amusing.

    1. Re:The Irony by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      Yeah..it was likely leaked by Jenny....

      You know how women like to talk about things....

      ;)

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    2. Re:The Irony by cunina · · Score: 4, Funny

      May I offer you a seat on the board of Uber?

    3. Re: The Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gay guys gossip just as much as women.

      That should narrow it down for ya.

  2. Irony. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This article has it.

    1. Re:Irony. by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Top-notch reporting from The Outline

      Given that they couldn't even get the name of the NSA right, I'd say it's medium-notch reporting at best.

  3. Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by volodymyrbiryuk · · Score: 0, Troll

    Maybe they should start paying the chinese workers fair wages so the won't have an incentive to leak stuff to get some extra cach to support their families.

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    1. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ohnooooooo... That would cut down on the massive profits that are made and the stockholders will have NONE of THAT...

    2. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can never have too much cache!

    3. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      I fully agree on fair wages bro, but the shit after that is pure fucking insane.
      You have to be retarded to think a rise in wages will prevent leaks. Obviously you are an ideologue and you can not help but being duped into thinking that the belief system you operate under is the fix for every problem you see.

      Possibly if you opened your mind a bit you could operate intelligently on the facts around you instead of looking like a pathetic retard spouting crazy shit.

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    4. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by volodymyrbiryuk · · Score: 1

      I didn't say the approach will cure the problem. Of course leaks will happen no matter how high the salaries are but higher salaries would probably lower the incentives significantly.

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    5. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      Those people you mention are not Apple employees, I'm not sure why you'd expect Apple is paying their wages at all.

      The opposite is mostly true. You very rarely hear of leaks from Apple employees in the US, because those in engineering are in a job market that consists significantly of companies looking to outsource, offshore and H1B every possible thing they can. One does not intentionally jeopardize a top flight job by doing something like that, particularly since they are going to be blackballed and have trouble gaining employment anywhere similar. The cost to get someone to leak in this job market, assuming said person is not a total moron, is probably $5-$10M, depending on what he thinks he needs to retire at a quality of life acceptable to him.

      In contrast if you live in China, or some other country that is mostly being outsourced TO, then the cost of leaking is whatever makes it worth your while to find another job. For someone who works in a factory, that's probably not a lot at all, and it's no big deal to them, they'll just find a new job (possibly by same employer, working on products for a different foreign company).

    6. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Dishevel · · Score: 1
      Title of your comment.
      Treat the problem rather than the symptoms

      Maybe they should start paying the chinese workers fair wages so the won't have an incentive to leak stuff

      I didn't say the approach will cure the problem.

      You stated quite clearly that the problem WAS the wages. The problem is not wages. The problem is that the incentives are many and huge. Also the newer Chinese culture is built around the idea of cheating and theft. They have entire regions dedicated to it.

      In short, if you raised wages by 50%, it would not make more than a 1% difference in leaks.

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    7. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by TimothyHollins · · Score: 1

      I don't know about you but my wife doesn't feel supported at all when I bring home the cache.

    8. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But then they couldn't compete with all the other manufacturers who pay extra low wages for Chinese workers. :D

    9. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Bro"... talking like that people probably wont respect your opinion very much.

      They will think that you are a pathetic retard stupid idiot moron spouting crazy nonsensical horribly stupid shit

      Just saying.

    10. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Maybe they should start paying the chinese workers fair wages so the won't have an incentive to leak stuff to get some extra cach to support their families.

      They do get paid fair wages. It's a much better job than similar jobs at other local companies. Or perhaps by "fair" you mean US wages? You might consider that to be fair, but the reality is they would be out of a job because doctors and teachers and educated professionals would be taking those jobs instead of what they trained to do. In the mean time all those professional jobs would be unfilled and you'd be doing serious damage to the community, all in the name of what you, as an outsider who knows nothing, considers "fair". Those pesky unintended consequences.

    11. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think you read the article, as it says leaks come from both the factory and campus... though there reasons are different.

    12. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      AC talking shit.
      Means as much as your life does. Nothing.

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    13. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Most leaks that originate in Asia come from component suppliers. Apple has little control over wages deep in their supply line, even if there was some reason to believe that would stop leaks (it wouldn't).

      Apple does not directly employ many people in China, but the people it does employ are pretty well paid by Chinese standards, and Apple is considered a prestigious company to work for. The contracting assembly companies also pay well by Chinese standards. A Foxconn worker in Shenzhen can take home about $600 per month, which is considered middle income in China. Workers in Chongqing take home less, but the cost of living there is also less, and it is much easier for migrant workers to visit their families back on the farm on weekends and holidays.

    14. Re: Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You accuse someone of not having an open mind and then paint the entire culture of China with a broad brush; bravo!

    15. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by jimbolauski · · Score: 1

      So Apple needs to start paying other company's employees fair wages? It would be very difficult for apple to enforce any terms where they set the wages.

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    16. Re: Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, thou doth protest too much.

      Little of what you said can reasonably be concluded from the prior post. Oh, get a life.

    17. Re: Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      Are you saying that the Chinese do not currently have entire regions of their country dedicated to copyright and patent infringement?
      No?

      Just because a fact describes something happening within a culture that is negative does not make it wrong.

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    18. Re: Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      Other than the title and the content, you are correct.
      Get a fact.

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    19. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? How are you any better? I find it hard to believe your real name is Dishevel. You're just as anonymous as we are.

      And to say an anonymous persons life means nothing, well, that's a properly horribly thing for you to say. That's evil. Like true evil. I think you're saying things without actually thinking about what they mean.

    20. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your life is utterly without value. Quit shitting up the comments here. You're a pathetic fucking moron and we're laughing at your comments on Reddit.

    21. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      Laugh at what you want. The fact that volodymyrbiryuk was very clear in his comment are not taken away by pathetic lies about intent.
      The title and the content are clear.

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    22. Re: Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      Why should she be impressed when you bring home big bags of tag RAM you've pulled from old 486 motherboards at your job at the recycling center?

    23. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by haruchai · · Score: 1

      A better approach would be to bring the jobs back to the USA & Western countries.

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    24. Re: Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because she has been loving the cache on my new AMD processors. My L2 cache is yugeeee. Just ask ya wife.

    25. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of the jobs are already on their way back to the US and it is not because of any US government or US company actions. It is the Chinese business owners and investors who are driving the process. Corporate tax rates average around 40% in China which is almost double of US corporate tax rates. Infrastructure, buildings, manufacturing plants, and land average around 4 times the cost of similar assets bought in the US. Energy prices are also 3 to 4 times the amount you would pay in the US. The Chinese government heavily regulates every business in the country. Even to the point of requiring companies to allow full access to every facet of the business on a fulltime basis. Bribes to government officials are an open SOP. The bulk of China's economy is exports to the US, Europe, and other places which results in high shipping costs. With all of these extra costs and having to deal with heavy government regulations and interference these businesses will all be more profitable even paying higher salaries. Chinas economic growth has been impressive but they had a lot of catching up to do with the western economies. Growth eventually hits a wall at a certain point, especially an economy built almost entirely on cheap labor. As the economy grows the labor costs rise which in turn can stimulate the domestic economy. Economies usually grow, stop, adjust, and hopefully start growing again if the government implements a smart enough fiscal and regulatory strategy. China's working class have seen wage increases but they started at what some might describe as slave labor rates coupled with no worker rights to address working conditions or labor rates. The US may have a rich 1% class but China has a .0001% class that not only control wealth but also undisputed political power that never have to worry about elections or public protests. So yeah we are reaching an inflection point where the 2nd and 3rd tier of China's wealthy businesses doing what all businesses do which is look for ways to increase profits and moving operations to the US will be extremely profitable for a good many of them.

    26. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps fair means not having to live i a shared apartment the size of a refrigerator box but no jump to extremes it is common among the truly stupid ignorant masses what a way to argue a point middle ground be dammed just act like a child lol.

    27. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Translation do not question Apple. There is a very good reason why apple does what it does.

      Why does Apple not spend it's hundreds of billions quietly buying back it's shares so they are not victims of their share holders?

    28. Re: Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by koomba · · Score: 1

      And.....que the rabid libertarians to fervently exclaim how the company and board members have an ABSOLUTE obligation to deliver continued increased profits, for ever and ever. Any other action is a betrayal of their sacred mission to procure massive wealth at all costs.

    29. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice reading comprehension there, Chief. It started out pointing out the current reality, but you ignored that part. As for the "child" thing, did you read your own post? Projection much?

    30. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A better approach would be to bring the jobs back to the USA & Western countries.

      Errm yeah. Just look at how there are no leaks from the White House under Trump. Maybe he should bring back the ruler job from Russia?

    31. Re:Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they should start paying the chinese workers fair wages so the won't have an incentive to leak stuff to get some extra cach to support their families.

      Well, since the number of leaks from the supply chain has drastically decreased - they must have done that, right? Better tell everybody about it.

    32. Re: Treat the problem rather than the symptoms by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      By the time the factory workers know, it matters very little. It's during design and development (read 6 figure salaries) that the leaks matter the most.

  4. The Apple Cops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every year, we get closer to the corporate ruled World that Heinlein has in Friday.

    We already have corporate armies. Eric Price's Blackwater. They are called "contractors" by our State Department. So when you hear of contractors getting killed, it's really mercenaries - I mean private security contractors.

  5. Yo Apple by houghi · · Score: 1

    I heard you hate leakers, so we put a leak in your leak, so you can leak while you leak.

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    1. Re:Yo Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That makes absolutely no sense... I like it!

    2. Re:Yo Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Xzibit A+. -PCP

    3. Re:Yo Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet good money you like big dicks in your ass too.

    4. Re:Yo Apple by houghi · · Score: 1

      Yeah, sorry.

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  6. Look in the mirror by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    I think some of these leaks, are leaks "on purpose". Apple, for better or worse, is great at marketing. To built buzz/hype for an upcoming product, you have to know that most companies "leak" some things on purpose.

    1. Re:Look in the mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This.

    2. Re:Look in the mirror by msmash · · Score: 1

      Not all of those leaks. Around this time of the year, Apple picks WSJ, or Bloomberg, or NYTimes to share about the upcoming iPhone. The idea is to see people's reaction, it's Apple's way to test the water. If the reaction is mostly positive, they go ahead with the features described in the report.

    3. Re:Look in the mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not all of those leaks. Around this time of the year, Apple picks WSJ, or Bloomberg, or NYTimes to share about the upcoming iPhone. The idea is to see people's reaction, it's Apple's way to test the water. If the reaction is mostly positive, they go ahead with the features described in the report.

      Like when they talked about that missing headphone jack?

      Maybe they're like Trump. They test the weather, then they ignore all tests and do the worst possible thing they could.

      Because they're corageous.

    4. Re:Look in the mirror by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

      This is some INSANE marketing!

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    5. Re:Look in the mirror by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Buzz and Hype may be good... However what a leak normally does is show off that something new is coming soon, so customers will hold off on their purchase of say the iPhone 7 because the iPhone 7s or the 8 will be out and it will be that much cooler. So during this time of hype people are not buying the older products. Being that their products are months away from release a valid product leak sent out too early could kill a quarters revenue.

      The money to design and create the next version of the product mostly comes from the profit of the sales of the previous version.
      Even a mighty company like Apple could take quite a beating if they are unable to sell their products over time.

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    6. Re:Look in the mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      of course some are on purpose. there are dedicated marketing companies that perform the arms length dispersion. where do you think your black friday ads and other such things come from? these things are scheduled with great care.

      a companies reaction to the leak is a good indicator. for example approved leaks never end up in the required legal notice disclosures for publicly traded companies.

    7. Re:Look in the mirror by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Buzz and Hype may be good... However what a leak normally does is show off that something new is coming soon, so customers will hold off on their purchase of say the iPhone 7 because the iPhone 7s or the 8 will be out and it will be that much cooler. So during this time of hype people are not buying the older products. Being that their products are months away from release a valid product leak sent out too early could kill a quarters revenue.

      Hint: New iPhones have come out around September of every year. They always miss back to school season. You don't need leaks when the release schedule is predictable. And most of the iPhone profits come within the first 3 months of sale where they can move nearly a hundred million units. The rest of it just tails off into standard churn from those who don't really care and get one when their contract is up for renewal.

      Granted, there have been a few surprises like the iPhone SE proving people still wanted a high end, but not so big, phone.

      But Apple used to be far harsher on leakers than now. These days Apple is far more lenient. It used to be one of the most definite clues of what something looks like was if the photos you saw in the news article were removed the next day. Now Apple stopped taking down photos. (Because if the photo wasn't taken down the next day, the leak was a fake. If it was, the leak was real).

      Heck, I think Apple also must design some Android phones and OEMs it to manufacturers, as some leaks end up being believable, but not actually in the final design, so people end up thinking it wasn't an Apple leak, but a leak for someone else.

      The other thing I think Apple does is poison the well - if leaks are going to happen, then manufacture your own leaks and have leakers leak those as well to confuse what is actually happening.

    8. Re:Look in the mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not all of those leaks. Around this time of the year, Apple picks WSJ, or Bloomberg, or NYTimes to share about the upcoming iPhone. The idea is to see people's reaction, it's Apple's way to test the water. If the reaction is mostly positive, they go ahead with the features described in the report.

      Like when they talked about that missing headphone jack?

      Well, they must have listened the first three times the "leaks" claimed the next iPhone wouldn't have an headphone jack - because they did have one after all.

    9. Re: Look in the mirror by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      That makes no sense. If they approved the release of non-public info, I'd expect that to be disclosed.

  7. Some of these investigators have previously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > Some of these investigators have previously worked at U.S. intelligence agencies like the National Security Administration (NSA)

    Credentials check out

    1. Re:Some of these investigators have previously by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      That makes sense. They know how to leak and where to leak. Only those professionals could leak a confidential briefing about leaks so quickly.

  8. Found two employees who leaked information.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... "who later disappeared from public." :D

    1. Re:Found two employees who leaked information.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "They committed suicide by jumping out of the window."

  9. No need to cheer them on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While I can understand why a company would have an interest in preventing leaks about their upcoming products, what everyone needs to realize is that no one else shares that interest. Unless you own Apple stock, the very most best-case scenario for Apple-leak-prevention is worth to you, is $0.00. And it's probably worth slightly less than that.

    Even for vendors that you personally like, you are in a zero-sum game with them when it comes to leaks. You probably want to know what their next thing is, if you religiously buy their products or if you are in competition with them. And for the other 80% of people (because, let's admit it, a fuckton of people do still buy Apple products), the only reason to not care about it is .. because you just don't care.

  10. Re: Tim Cook is a passive aggressive FAGGOT !!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So how long have you got?

  11. OMG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple iz evilz! what about freedom of speech! Apple evilz!

  12. Tired of the Leaks by Frightened_Turtle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm getting tired with all the leaks. It's like looking at all the presents under the Christmas tree and knowing what is in each wrapped box. It takes all the fun out of it. Let me be surprised!

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    1. Re:Tired of the Leaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For someone with a six-digit UID you sure have a weird way of looking at shit. For actual professionals who need tools to do work, Apple's secrecy is a horrible way of planning capital purchases. There is a reason that Microsoft and Intel publish their roadmap for years into the future. At Apple, they have a "pro" computer which is about five years old, they've promised to sell a $5,000 (starting price) "pro" iMac starting at the end of this year, and they say we're getting a "pro" computer next year. Will it be a normal tower computer like everyone has been screaming for since the day they announced the current "pro" trashcan? Not bloody likely. But we have no idea what it's going to be. For consumer junk like the new Apple Alexa, fine, surprise people, who cares. For real tools for people with budgets and planning this process is ridiculous.

    2. Re:Tired of the Leaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The first rule of Anonymous Coward Club is you don't talk about UIDs. Posting as an AC to prevent Ad Hominem is great right up until you start off your post with Ad Hominem. Don't be that guy.

    3. Re:Tired of the Leaks by Trogre · · Score: 1

      It gets particularly bad when details about a still-in-production movie is leaked, people whine online about some part of it, then the idiotic director actually responds.

      The correct way to deal with stuff like this is to ignore it.

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    4. Re:Tired of the Leaks by Trogre · · Score: 1

      *ahem*, are leaked.

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    5. Re: Tired of the Leaks by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      "a...movie" "Is" was correct. Use "are" for movies.

  13. good if you work there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's good to have these spooks on retainer because if shit hits the fan while you're travelling they can help get you and your family out.

  14. LEO/agency -- corporate mercenary suppliers by swb · · Score: 2

    I love the fact that our police and intelligence agencies provide a never-ending stream of corporate mercenaries for hire.

    Wouldn't it make more sense for some of these people (FBI, NSA, etc) just to be barred from working in private intelligence jobs? Anyone above a certain level with 10+ years has a choice to either keep working to full pension age or get a partial pension, but in either case they are barred from working as private intelligence/enforcement mercenaries.

    It's one thing for an ex-street cop to work as a security guard or a bouncer, but should we really be spending a bunch of taxpayer money training and educating FBI, NSA or other intelligence-type people just so they can take that knowledge and information and apply it to what amounts to private enforcement and intelligence gathering efforts?

    1. Re:LEO/agency -- corporate mercenary suppliers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe some of those ex-CIA, ex-NSA people aren't as "ex" as they would have you believe. And in top security positions they would have access to a lot of internal information. Then the CIA, NSA, FBI would only have to make a request for information when they want it to be refused. "Apple refuse to help the NSA unlock a suspected terrorist bomber's information."

    2. Re:LEO/agency -- corporate mercenary suppliers by Agripa · · Score: 1

      Maybe some of those ex-CIA, ex-NSA people aren't as "ex" as they would have you believe. And in top security positions they would have access to a lot of internal information. Then the CIA, NSA, FBI would only have to make a request for information when they want it to be refused. "Apple refuse to help the NSA unlock a suspected terrorist bomber's information."

      An excellent first step for intelligence operations including adding exploits is to compromise the agency responsible for counter intelligence operations.

  15. Its not working by SCVonSteroids · · Score: 1

    I guess they need to work harder on their strategy.

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  16. Need to control the leaks by DrYak · · Score: 1

    In order for the buzz/hype to be actually relevant, you need very precisely time the "leak".

    If you release it too early/build too much anticipation, you risk being the victim of Osborne Effect, and you will be sitting on a huge pile of unsold older-generation hardware, as the (potential) userbase is holding and waiting to see the next-generation before buying it. (This supposedly killed the Osbone Executive & Vixen)

    Apple needs specially to be careful with this as (at least from the outside, to a non-Apple user like me) it seems that they only have a limited span of generations selling at one point of time.
    Basically, they are only selling "current gen" hardware.
    At the conferences, when they announce officially newer hardware, it's usually with added comment "it's shipping now". Meaning that newer hardware in the new "only current one" that they are selling.
    Meaning that by that point, they must have cleared the older hardware, and must be ready to ship the new one.

    Also, in addition to that, Apple are a high profile target, meaning that asian-noname hardware cloner will try as much as possible to provide cheap knock-of s of their hardware. A too early leak also means that some no-name chinese cloner will have a longer lead time to try to produce a cheapo android clone with the same feature.

    So basically : Apple needs to tighly control the leaks, so only what they decide to "leak on purpose" gets released - when it's at their most advantage e.g. for building anticipation. And so they avoid harmful leaks happening by genuine accident (employee leaking stuff too early, leading to Osborne Effect and un-shipped old-gen stock, or marked flood with cheap noname asian knock-ofs and the latest iGadget losing part of its elitists appeal).

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  17. People are making fun... by ckatko · · Score: 1

    ... but honestly, any company working with China has to employ EXTENSIVE measures to not be completely ripped off. One thing you never do is give them a complete design. You have two or three manufacturers and they each get a piece of the design--never the whole thing.

    We live in an age were knowledge is MONEY. Our social security numbers. Our medical records. Our personal information is _valuable_ enough for hackers to spend the time to steal. Now, imagine having a patent or new design in one of the (if not THE) most watched tech companies in the world. Anything they do, has immediate ramifications. Any new API and the industry reacts and adapts, and/or competes. There's tons of interest (=money) in knowing what Apple does before the general public does.

    The task of keeping Apple secret, even when an employee is disgruntled or fired, must be a monumental task.

  18. Perhaps Sculley was right. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    Apple didn't do so bad when they weren't an intelligence service with a technology company attached to it.

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  19. Quote excerpted from article: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "But the presentation makes working for Apple sound like working for the CIA. (At one point, Rice even refers to 'lowing cover.') There are repeated references to employees drawing boundaries in their personal lives, for example. 'I go through a lot of trouble not to talk about what I work on with my wife, with my teenage kids with my friends, my family,' an employee in one of the videos says. 'I’m not telling you that you give up all relationships,' Rice says, 'but that you have a built-in relationship monitor that you’re constantly using.' "

    This sounds like a cult member talking about maintaining the cult. WTF

  20. Re:Tim Cook is a passive aggressive FAGGOT !!!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its always the ones in the closet who whine like you, denail rots you brain.