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Star Wars' Han Solo Spinoff Directors Quit In the Middle of Shooting (theverge.com)

hondo77 writes: Due to "different creative visions," Phil Lord and Christopher Miller are no longer directing the Han Solo movie, despite filming having started in January. The film is still scheduled to be released in May 2018. "Phil Lord and Christopher Miller are talented filmmakers who have assembled an incredible cast and crew, but it's become clear that we had different creative visions on this film, and we've decided to part ways. A new director will be announced soon," Kathleen Kennedy, president of Lucasfilm, said in a statement. The Han Solo spinoff is set to star Alden Ehrenreich as a young Han Solo, with Woody Harrelson as his mentor, Donald Glover as a young Lando Calrissian, and unspecified roles for Emilia Clarke and Thandia Newton.

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  1. Re:Both Lucas and Disney fucked it up: by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sorry, but that shit is actually owned by them. And yes, it sucks to invest your time into learning the lore of something only to see it thrown away by the next bozo coming in and saying "don't like that, let's do something completely different!" and does "all wrong".

    The lesson to learn here is simple: Don't invest into something that isn't yours. Hard to do, I admit, but in the end, every moment spent learning about a universe you cannot make your own if you are fed up with the official one is a wasted one.

    And yes, I'm fully aware that these hardcore fans that spent time and money to learn about the world, to amass amounts of merchandise, to recreate their favorite characters, create faithful costumes and so on, those are the ones that kept the franchise alive while their owners were pretty much abandoning them, milking them for all they're worth all the while and living off those fans that keep it alive and vibrant, drawing in new potential fans. I'm fully aware of that.

    But studios will never learn if they don't learn the hard way. So yes, let them keep it, let them use it as they see fit and stop investing your time, money and energy into it. Wait until a studio learns that those things are not given freely but have to be earned.

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  2. Re:Both Lucas and Disney fucked it up: by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What is my point with all this? That it is really time for people to band together on creating non-commercially owned replacements for these universes.

    Or, ya know, just forget about it and do something else.

  3. Re:Not a good sign by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anakin's turn the dark side has to be one of the worst bits of character development in cinematic history. He goes from good guy to murdering kids in the space of a few minutes... In order to save his own wife and child. Even if they had a competent actor, the way it was written was impossible to pull off.

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  4. Re:Both Lucas and Disney fucked it up: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    It's fanboy crying like this that makes me glad I'm not a comic book "nerd."

    You people need to get on with your lives instead of acting like someone who distorts your childhood fascinations is a monster. It's a fairy tale and it's a profit machine. Be entertained about it and move on. It's not like they're rewriting real world history... they're skimming the cream of what should have been laid to rest in the mid eighties.

  5. Re:Not a good sign by RobinH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find modern thinking, and I hate to say this, but particularly from women, is that you should embrace your feelings and let them control you.

    That's not quite right. The idea is that you should express your feelings in order to process them. The main difference between Eastern and Western philosophies here is that in the East you do the processing internally, in the West you do it with your friends or on daytime TV.

    Yes, and in Star Wars you grab your light sabre and mow down a village of sand people or a room full of younglings. :) Your phrasing of the idea is more correct than mine, but I don't buy the logic that if you don't express it, then you can't process it. I think you can be aware of your feelings and "process" them without telling them to someone else. It's called mindfulness. I see a lot of people expressing their feelings all over facebook, and I'm not sure they're better off for it. Telling a friend about your feelings who then goes and tells someone else is unfortunately common, as is someone reading someone else's diary. I see some colleagues expressing their feelings over email in a very inappropriate manner. I think people who can learn to avoid inappropriate expression of their feelings do better as adults. Expressing your feelings often results in giving someone else something to use against you later.

    Encouraging people to express their emotions is sometimes a way of encouraging them to share weaknesses with you. My wife is a big proponent of "expressing to process" but then I overheard a discussion she had with a friend. The friend said that she'd been talking to a man, that he'd gotten very emotional and started tearing up, and then she'd felt very uncomfortable, and then both women agreed it just wasn't socially acceptable for men to do that. That it was "really weird." So here's a person who watched a man express his emotion, and then related that story to another woman in a way that made him seem weak. Wasn't he supposed to express his emotion so he could process it? What if he'd expressed an even more socially inappropriate emotion like anger or lust? Would someone record video of it now and stream it live to shame them? That's why I don't buy it.

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  6. Re:Not a good sign by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The friend said that she'd been talking to a man, that he'd gotten very emotional and started tearing up, and then she'd felt very uncomfortable, and then both women agreed it just wasn't socially acceptable for men to do that. That it was "really weird." So here's a person who watched a man express his emotion, and then related that story to another woman in a way that made him seem weak.

    That kind of thing is why I'm a feminist. Patriarchy and toxic masculinity.

    That's not "Patriarchy" or "toxic masculinity" or any other phrases you want to recite. The word you're looking for is "hypocrisy." The poster's wife expressed a belief that all people should act a specific way, and then when her friend related a tale of someone acting in that exact way, (who happened to be male), agreed with her friend who was criticizing the person for acting that way.

    Whether society as a whole espouses the same or different standards on men and women (IE: "Patriarchy") is completely irrelevant to this anecdote. The poster's wife has previously expressed *her own* belief system to the poster (from context), thus her conduct is and should be judged according to *that* system, not *societies*. She violated *her own* belief system by saying it wasn't appropriate and is thus a hypocrite.

    Or alternatively, she was possibly just trying to comfort her friend by saying whatever she believed her friend wanted to hear. People, (not me, but "normal people" do this a lot, and it often leads to more problems, yet they continue to do it...) This would make her less of a hypocrite, but more of a liar, even if it was only a small lie. This kind of thing is often what happens: someone says something small and it gets taken grossly out of context by people with an agenda. I'm not saying that's the case here with either the poster or you, but it happens far more often that people are willing to admit to themselves.

  7. Super hero movies by sjbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think "superhero" movies are a good example. They're the epitome of high-budget junk with no original plot or quality of story. - just action.

    What do you think Star Wars is if it isn't a super hero movie? Jedi are nearly the epitome of super heroes. Furthermore I completely disagree that super hero movies inherently lack original plots or good stories. Sturgeon's law applies to any genre of movie you care to mention. Some of the stories that are coming out of the comic books these days are absolutely awesome stories and only a narrow minded snob would think otherwise. You could argue that the story could have been realized better but the stories themselves are often great.

    They sell well to kids wanting to watch their favourite marketing device, but you'll find very few superhero films on any critics "must watch" top films.

    I can name quite a few superhero movies that are must see cultural touch stones. Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back are two of them.