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Facial Recognition Is Coming To US Airports (theverge.com)
Facial recognition systems will be coming to U.S. airports in the very near future. "Customs and Border Protection first started testing facial recognition systems at Dulles Airport in 2015, then expanded the tests to New York's JFK Airport last year," reports The Verge. "Now, a new project is poised to bring those same systems to every international airport in America." From the report: Called Biometric Exit, the project would use facial matching systems to identify every visa holder as they leave the country. Passengers would have their photos taken immediately before boarding, to be matched with the passport-style photos provided with the visa application. If there's no match in the system, it could be evidence that the visitor entered the country illegally. The system is currently being tested on a single flight from Atlanta to Tokyo, but after being expedited by the Trump administration, it's expected to expand to more airports this summer, eventually rolling out to every international flight and border crossing in the U.S. U.S. Customs and Border Protection's Larry Panetta, who took over the airport portion of the project in February, explained the advantages of facial recognition at the Border Security Expo last week. "Facial recognition is the path forward we're working on," Panetta said at the conference. "We currently have everyone's photo, so we don't need to do any sort of enrollment. We have access to the Department of State records so we have photos of U.S. Citizens, we have visa photos, we have photos of people when they cross into the U.S. and their biometrics are captured into [DHS biometric database] IDENT."
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If you need to fly, better reconsider until the software comparing the before & after photos gets at least a couple of updates
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Since smiling at the camera distorts your features enough to fool facial recognition, if you smile at the camera, you might be a terrorist. And since you're a terrorist, you will be held without trial at Guantanamo Federal, indefinitely. Just like the other terrorists that DHS can't prove are a threat. This is, unfortunately, still ongoing.
You're obviously forgetting about Grover Cleveland.
We've been doing this in Australia for a decade. It's called "SmartGate"
It makes sense. Why have a photo or any identification if you don't attempt to match it? It would be pointless.
The system works on exit, not enter. What is the point of spotting an illegal immigrant at exit time?
AC Re 'Why not check incoming faces"
The illegal migrants sneak in illegally or get help to enter the USA without documentation. So its hard to get an entry image.
Once in the USA the illegal immigrant might buy, create or use documents as needed domestically.
Different state and federal databases cant share a lot of details due to domestic privacy protections so some forged, borrowed or documents obtained by deception can be used to build a larger collection of real paperwork.
At some time on average the illegal migrant might feel so arrogant that they think they can travel out and then just return to the USA.
That is when reconciling exit images is so powerful. The illegal immigrant is finally detected and so is the full history of their forged documentation.
Citizenship or legal documents to be in the USA will soon be needed at the state and city level too finally removing the ability to obtain city or state cover to remain in the USA.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
The chance of being framed for a murder is obviously never larger than the chance of getting murdered, so not a big risk for most people.
AC tourists show their passports on both entry and exit and have not stayed longer than they should.
Why would any tourists enjoying the USA have any new issues?
Their real passport was scanned on entry, they are returning home after a great time in the USA and their valid documents match on entry and exit.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
I know you are trolling but there may be a grain of truth in what you are saying.
White people are the easiest to recognize and blacks are the hardest. It is a simple matter of contrast. I don't know if male/female makes a difference in success rate. Probably not, though makeup and beards may play a role.
I'm touched by their faith in their computer systems. One wonders if one of their computers instructed them to shove a power cable up their ass and go screaming, naked, out into the crowds in an airport, if they would follow through...
This is America, so no change then?
I kid, kid.
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... for Americans anyway.
Congress has passed Biometric Exit bills at least nine times. In each, it has been clear: This is a program meant for foreign nationals. In fact, when President Trump issued an executive order in January on Biometric Exit, it was actually reissued to clarify that it didn't apply to American citizens.
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Why try to stop illegals from leaving, isn't that what they want?
Why not check incoming faces against the documents to be sure the people are who they said they are...?
Because the guns will be turned inward soon. Slaves will not be allowed to leave.
Yeah, if Global Entry really helps. Last time I came back into the States it was through Atlanta, where I discovered that the post-immigration/customs security checkpoint doesn't have a priority line. Immigration was basically instant due to GE (scan passport, stand in front of camera, repeat for wife). Customs was grabbing our bags and tossing them on another belt less than 100 m away, no delay. Re-security with the carryons? By far the longest part of our security experience on the entire trip. I'm glad I'm just some guy who flies for vacations, if I had to do this weekly I'd lose my shit. And especially if I had to do it during peak tourist-travel months, when you have gaggles of high schoolers on school trips who have never done the immigration/customs dance before, and often flown very little or none at all.
AC if the passport scans as having entered the USA and the same person is now going home on time, what will be ok.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
2017 Congressional baseball shooting - James Hodgkinson (white male)
2017 Flint Airport Stabbing - Amor Ftouhi (Tunisian/Arab, easily passes as a white European, since North Africans are Caucasian)
2011 Norway attacks - Anders Behring Breivik (white male, but nearly every Norwegian is white)
2011 Tucson shooting - Jared Lee Loughner (evil white male)
2010 Pentagon shooting - James Von Brunn (white male)
2010 Austin suicide attack - Andrew Joseph Stack (white male)
2010 Oakland freeway shootout - Byron Williams (white male)
2009 shooting of Pittsburgh police officers - Richard Poplawski (white male)
2009 Holocaust Memorial Museum shooting - James Von Brunn (really old white male)
1995 Oklahoma City bombing - Timothy McVeigh (white male)
1978-1995 Unabomber - Ted Kaczynski (white male)
fun fact: 6 out of these 11 were members of the Libertarian Party or self-described Ron Paul supporters.
With that in mind, having a camera that can detect if someone frequently wears a fedora is the most effective way to combat domestic terrorism.
They are already leaving the country and have valid travel elsewhere, just let them know they are not coming back. Avoids a lot of hassle (for the U.S, that is).
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You say that like it isn't already there.
>> Facial Recognition Is Coming To US Airports
I'm Not Coming To US Airports.
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That's a rather black and white way of looking at it.
I'm not american and I know this is offtopic but I have karma to burn. I admit i laughed at first toó but this doesn't feel like much of a joke after just seeing the recent dashcam footage of a legal firearm owner being summarily executed by an incompetent cop with inadequate/improper training and getting acquitted.
Forget about the talk of 'racism', this goes far beyond such things. What confuses me the most however is the deafening silence of groups like the NRA who normally make so much noise about upholding gun rights, but now that a law abiding citizen who even lets the officer now he's carrying a firearm in his vehicle just gets 4 shots at him from point blank range nobody says anything.
Think about what this case is signalling: it doesn't matter if you do everything right. It doesn't matter if you're not hostile and have a license to carry a firearm. If the cop is twitchy and panics, whether it's because he's racist and scared of you simply due to your skin tone or because he's an incompetent asshole makes no difference, he can just shoot you dead on the spot and face no consequences. All it takes is for the cop to say that he felt as if he's in danger. As feelings are subjective it doesn't need to be justified in any way.
Think about the stupidity of the argument in this specific case: they essentially convinced a jury that the officer in question hears the man saying he has a firearm and thought process in the immediate seconds following this statement is: "shit, this guy just informed me he has a legal firearm, the next thing he's probably going to do is pull it out and unload on me with his wife and kid in the car, that's how all the gangsters always operate. Best err on the side of caution and go directly to LETHAL FORCE'. You can clearly see in the video that the cop panics. He hears the word 'firearm' and goes from 'okay' to 'don't pull it out then' to four shots to the chest in like less than 5 seconds. The guy even mentions that the weapon is in his glove box. so there's no practical way for the him to get to his gun fast enough in order for him to present any actual danger to the officer. And the jury's like 'Oh that makes sense, he had reasonable cause'. What? This behavior would make more sense in a country like Japan where guns are banned almost entirely and the cops don't usually have to deal with armed citizenry. I was under the impression that american police training would deal with these kinds of cases a lot because you have the most guns per capita so these kind of encounters should be standard procedure for the cops.
Can anybody argue after this that the right of the people to keep and bear arms is not infringed if carrying one legally gets you killed by the law for doing nothing except following the rules?
"It is the business of the future to be dangerous" -Alfred North Whitehead
You leave out the place where the officer told him repeatedly not to touch the weapon but he kept reaching for it. But just keep dancing the racism card.
If you carry, there is one rule to keep in mind if you encounter the police. Do exactly what they say. If they say don't touch it, get your damn hands away from it. Best to keep your hands up on the steering wheel in plain sight. If you need to grab anything explain verbally what you are going to do before doing it. If your hand has to go anywhere near the gun, tell the officer, let him acknowledge it, and then move slowly narrating your every movement. It shouldn't have to be this way, but as certain movements (BLM) have resulted in officers across the nation being targeted and assassinated just for wearing a uniform our police are reasonably jumpy these days. So it behooves the law abiding armed citizen to do everything correct.
Sadly this individual did not. His actions caused reasonable alarm, and he paid for not obeying the officer's instructions to not touch his firearm. Racism had nothing to do with it.
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If the goal was to reduce Jewish influence in the world, it backfired quite fucking spectacularly.
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His sky daddy is better than the brown peoples' sky daddy.
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It'd be nice if the systems could improve to the point that they actually worked before being rolled out full-scale.
It's primarily for show so I'm not surprised it doesn't work.
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Now whatever you do guys, don't specify what or who you're talking about, or give any links or anything.
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As someone who lives in San Diego, no I really don't want all you fucking tourist taking all the parking at the beach.
I think I speak for many of us when I say: you can shove San Diego up your fucking cock.
Thanks.
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Except that's not even what the cops claimed was happening.. He said the gun is in his glove box. Was he reaching for the glove box? No.
He was reaching for his ID which he was asked to produce.
So a guy is asked for a license. In order to avoid scaring the cop before pulling his ID out he does the sensible thing and mentions he has a gun and that it's in his glovebox and then proceeds to get his license from his wallet, at which point the cop proceeds to shoot him even though it should be clear at this point he's not going for the gun.
It takes a gigantic idiot to even assume someone who's about to pull a gun an attempt to murder you in plain daylight is about to declare his intentions beforehand to an armed police officer right next to him.
But he did act exactly according to this rule. His hand never went near the gun which as he informed was in the glovebox, and he wasn't going for the glovebox, which he even confirmed a second time ('I'm not reaching for it'). The problem is the officer never listened or did not believe him that the gun was in the box and opened fire due to sheer panic and incompetence even though his hand was never near where the weapon was.
Incorrect. He never touched his firearm at any point or even went near it. The officer thought he did, because the officer did not listen and/or believe him about the location of the gun.
Agreed and mind you I never claimed it did. This is gross incompetence and lack of proper training. These kinds of individuals should not be working as mall cops let alone as police officers.
"It is the business of the future to be dangerous" -Alfred North Whitehead
Actually correcting myself because I rewatched the video just now. He doesn't say it's in the glovebox though that were it was. He uses a stupid phrasing of "I do have a firearm on me", and I think those 2 final words get him killed.
So I'll grant you that Philip's actions/choice of words partially account for this chain of events. However, still I think the response from the cop is not justified takin in the context of the situation as I originally said: it makes no rational sense for a man to declare he has a gun to a cop before trying to shoot him in a car with his wife and kid during a regular traffic stop.
Context matters. If this had happened after the guy had been fleeing the cops or something I'd understand. This kind of overreaction in this situation makes no sense to me,
"It is the business of the future to be dangerous" -Alfred North Whitehead
Congressman Jason Chaffetz has been trying to warn the American people about some pretty disturbing stuff the government is doing with facial recognition. Basically if you have a drivers license, there is a 50/50 chance you are in the FBI's database. He also hints that any social media account you have with a picture is linked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
But, the gun was actually in his pocket, as many of the links about the trial details show: here's one random link.
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This could be actually be useful for security. The facial recognition could be deployed for all departing flights, domestic or international. Cross-referencing it with a Muslim registry could be a great tool to identify likely terrorists. It would be very effective because Muslims are the greatest threat to commit acts of terror on aircraft. Once you identify a Muslim attempting to fly, it's very easy to subject them to enhanced security or detain them. I'm all for measures that would actually prevent terrorism, and this would be a great way to do just that.
A Muslim registry? Would all Muslims be required to register with the government? That seems like a pain in the neck. It would probably be easier if we just required them all to wear a yellow crescent on their lapel.
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
>> Facial Recognition Is Coming To US Airports
I'm Not Coming To US Airports.
Not to worry, the TSA has started having teams of TSA agents set up security screening checkpoints at post offices, train and bus stations (metro & greyhound), even stopping metro buses and boarding them to do security checks on riders. I'm sure the facial-recognition systems will be rolled out for these alternate and local transportation systems in the very near future.
We will soon be very safe with TSA checkpoints at malls, major intersections, residential neighborhood entrances/exits, and more!
Strangely, however, somehow I'm not feeling the love.
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The facial recognition software is sold by private vendors as being '90% accurate' but then put clauses in the contracts that make sure they can't be sued if it turns out its more like 40% accurate in practice. Then you have the problem of incomplete databases of images, often collated without the users consent, and then you have nontransparent process of determining weather someone is a 'match' and no kind of audit system to prevent abuses
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It's already being used at the TSA checkpoints. Last year I forgot to remove my knife (a k-bar, of all things) from my backpack. Funny thing is, TSA didn't catch a 12" knife when I was departing, but boy they were all over me on the returning flight. My backpack was pulled for inspection, they found the knife and then the TSA attendant went and spent about 2 minutes on a phone with someone. Then with no additional questions (didn't even ask my name) they let me go, while keeping the knife of course. I'm sure they simply waited for "Ok, he checks out" but the only way to know it at that point was to pull my data from video.
but the only way left wing policies (like fair treatment across race) get traction is through humor. Our media is owned by very rich, very right wing men who have a stake in keeping racism alive and well since it divides the working class.
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Agreed and mind you I never claimed it did. This is gross incompetence and lack of proper training. These kinds of individuals should not be working as mall cops let alone as police officers.
Well it appears that he isn't welcome back to his job at least. I agree completely that he was absolutely not trained/capable of handling what should be an infrequent, but not unique, situation.
And even if we allow for a gross miscommunication between the cop and the victim, none of that should have gotten the cop off the reckless endangerment charges. He unloaded his gun point-blank into a car with a small child in the back seat. I may be mistaken, but I don't think cops are supposed to even RETURN fire in a situation with a child (or bystander) immediately in the line of fire. That alone is insane. What this guy did goes even beyond that.
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Given the rate of aircraft bombings, this isn't where your money is well spent.
Spend your money hunting down islamophobic abortion clinic bombers. You'll get more criminals for the buck
Their interests are already respected.
Or did you miss HObby Lobby?
AC a person can drive but in some states the driver and passenger will be captured using roadside CCTV.
An American would have a valid passport and enjoy their flight to and from the USA.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
'Cause this is just one more step toward turning travellers into cattle. I won't be surprised if ear tags and/or embedded RFID chips are next.
I miss the days when the States was a relatively safe and sane travel destination. The way things are now, I'll probably never cross the border again. Dammit, I miss New Orleans - it sucks to realize that I may never go there again.
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Meh, lots of people, including the United States, are constantly blowing people up.
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
Can anybody argue after this that the right of the people to keep and bear arms is not infringed if carrying one legally gets you killed by the law for doing nothing except following the rules?
Sure, and the NRA did not say anything about Andrew Scott being killed either.
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