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Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop $120 'Bio-Frequency Healing' Sticker Packs Get Shot Down by NASA (fastcompany.com)

From a report: Goop had claimed the costly "Body Vibes" stickers were "made with the same conductive carbon material NASA uses to line space suits so they can monitor an astronaut's vitals during wear" and because of that were able to "target imbalances" of the human body's energy frequencies when they get thrown out of whack, reports Gizmodo. The thing is, NASA confirmed to Gizmodo that they "do not have any conductive carbon material lining the spacesuits" of astronauts. Further reading: The unbearable wrongness of Gwyneth Paltrow - The Outline.

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  1. I think society could improve a lot by Baron_Yam · · Score: 2

    If you could sue on the basis of 'prove it!'.

    Don't make it easy - if you fail to win the suit you'd have to cover reasonable legal costs or something - but when someone advertises a magic sticker that fixes your health problems, ANYONE ought to be able to sue the snake oil salesmen regardless of whether or not they have personally purchased the product.

    I'm sure there are packs of hungry lawyers out there who would love to make a living reading ads searching for a payday, I say let's put them to good use.

    1. Re: I think society could improve a lot by Brockmire · · Score: 2

      They'll just use the "for entertainment purposes" loophole like psychics and palm readers, even horoscope assholes.

    2. Re: I think society could improve a lot by KGIII · · Score: 2

      Huh...

      I am an aged hippie and I don't believe any of that. I wonder why that is? I've done enough drugs for dozens of people. Hell, I've done enough drugs to make Keith Richards blush. I sure as hell didn't vote for Trump and I get medical advice from qualified professionals.

      I don't even think I know any aging hippies who voted for him, now that I think about it. Is your family inbred, or something?

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  2. Health Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Don't eat too much
    2. Eat lots of different things
    3. Eat mostly plants
    4. Get enough exercise, ask your doctor how much
    5. Go to your doctor regularly and do what he/she says
    6. Unless your doctor says you need them, don't take vitamins, or supplements, or any pill or liquid that says "this product has not been evaluated by the FDA to treat any..."

    There, that's all you need. Just saved you a bunch of money. You're welcome.

    1. Re:Health Advice by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      Just saved you a bunch of money.

      You are so sued! Let's see your license to practice medicine, psychology, voodoo, etc.

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    2. Re:Health Advice by Pascoea · · Score: 4, Insightful

      7. Don't listen to anybody that has been paid by someone else to get you to do/eat/take something.

    3. Re:Health Advice by MMC+Monster · · Score: 2

      Don't forget:
      7. Keep well hydrated (unless your doctor tells you otherwise!).

      How do you know you're well hydrated? Check your urine. Urine should be clear or slight yellow tinge. Medium- or dark-yellow means you're dehydrated.

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    4. Re:Health Advice by pahles · · Score: 2

      ad 3. Why do you think my doctor knows how much I have to exercise?
      ad 4. Why would I go to the doctor regularly when I'm not feeling ill? And why do you think your doctor is all-knowing?

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    5. Re:Health Advice by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

      Don't forget:
      7. Keep well hydrated

      This is a myth. There is no actual evidence of health benefits from drinking liquids in excess of your normal desire. There are exceptions for people prone to develop kidney stones, and a few other rare health disorders. But for most people, there is no benefit. If you are thirsty, drink water. Otherwise, don't worry about it.

    6. Re: Health Advice by Brockmire · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If he told you ten minutes, you would have done 1 minute. Your doctor was a genius.

    7. Re:Health Advice by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      This is correct. Your brain (which controls thirst) is smarter than you are.

      Trust your brain.

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    8. Re: Health Advice by nitehawk214 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "drinking water at your normal desire" is the definition of well hydrated.

      Drinking shit that isn't water fucks this up, however.

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  3. The fact she sells these at $120 by hey! · · Score: 2

    disproves the belief that being rich means you must be smart.

    In fact, to all appearances the US has developed the kind of feckless hereditary aristocracy that P.G. Wodehouse used to satirize in his novels -- only American women are every bit the equal of men when it comes to inanity.

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    1. Re:The fact she sells these at $120 by Shotgun · · Score: 2

      She doesn't have to be smart enough to earn the money. She has to be smart enough to marry it.

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      Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
    2. Re:The fact she sells these at $120 by Nemyst · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The worst is that I don't think your point is correct. I think there's probably an awful lot of people for whom the $120 is extremely expensive, but they take it anyway because they think it's worth it in the long run. Maybe they even use that in place of proper medication/medical care. All of these people are praying upon the poorly educated (which is generally the poor, but also definitely include some rich people).

    3. Re:The fact she sells these at $120 by retchdog · · Score: 2

      one of my classmates in an ivy league applied math ph.d. program had a weird sticker on his laptop, so i asked him what it meant.

      he told me that it was there to disperse the harmful radiation, so i promptly asked him how the fuck he thought it worked. of course, his response was that his girlfriend had given it to him and that at least it wasn't doing any harm. then i told him that he had to get the ones with a hologram on them because they work better, lol.

      anyway, don't underestimate the irrationalizing power of pussy.

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    4. Re:The fact she sells these at $120 by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think there's probably an awful lot of people for whom the $120 is extremely expensive, but they take it anyway because they think it's worth it in the long run. Maybe they even use that in place of proper medication/medical care.

      That's because the proper medication/medical care is a lot more expensive than $120. Any port in a storm, as they say.

      Now I grew up in a low-income neighborhood, and despite the stories you may hear, typical poor people don't spend a lot of their money on this kind of BS. But there are a lot of poor people, which means there's a lot of atypical poor people out there. The lower quintile of US households by income make less than 22,800/year; the Federal poverty level for a household of 4 is 24,600. There's about 47.5 million people living below the poverty line, and if you include people who are skating just above that conservatively I'd say that there are at least 75 million Americans for whom $120 is a lot of money. When you're dealing with populations that big, you absolutely have to go by statistics rather than anecdotes. You can find examples in a group that size to support any hypothesis you care to make about people.

      In general, luxury bullshit is marketed to rich people. People don't market expensive French wines to people in the kind of zip codes, they market malt liquor, the main virtue of which is that it's a cheap way to get hammered.

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    5. Re:The fact she sells these at $120 by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      I'm just curious what your personal experience is with poor people.

      I grew up in Appalachia. My grandfather was a coal miner and died of black lung disease. I got out when I enlisted in the Marines on my 18th birthday, which led to a chain of life events, and I currently work as an engineer in Silicon Valley. But I still have a lot of relatives living in trailer parks. They all have big screen TVs, but have saved nothing for their kids' education or even their own retirement. There are people that are poor because of bad health, or bad luck, but there are also many that are poor because of astoundingly bad life decisions.

      I knew plenty of poor people (mostly relatives) who, given a spare $120, would definitely prioritize Gwyneth's "Bio-frequency" patch over funding their child's ESA.

    6. Re:The fact she sells these at $120 by edtice1559 · · Score: 2

      Whether statins and anti-depressants are beneficial to a particular patient is a bit more complex than you make it out to be. The fact is that both of those have established mechanisms by which the affect the function of the body in a way that is intended to be positive. i.e. they do something and that something is in many cases good. That's still significantly different than an expensive placebo.

    7. Re:The fact she sells these at $120 by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      most people I know from the old neighborhood are doing pretty well. But that was also a different era with a lot more upward mobility.

      Social mobility has declined in America, but there are huge variations. Social mobility is the worst in rural areas, especially in the Southeast and on Native American reservations. People born poor in those areas tend to stay poor. Mobility is much better in urban, northern, and coastal areas.

      Of the friends and family I grew up with in Appalachia, the only people doing well are those that moved away.

  4. I feel dumber for have read that by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 2
    From the summary:

    "Body Vibes" stickers were "made with the same conductive carbon material NASA uses to line space suits so they can monitor an astronaut's vitals during wear" and because of that were able to "target imbalances" of the human body's energy frequencies when they get thrown out of whack

    I feel dumber for having read that.

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  5. Better Alternative by Kunedog · · Score: 2

    She should've sold something more reputable, like carbon credits; then the company wouldn't even need to ship a product at all.

  6. Cool... by Gilgaron · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As an actual scientist sometimes I wish I was shameless enough to get into this sort of business. You apparently don't have to even make it sound plausible! I suppose I do have coworkers that sell essential oils on the side, which is more or less the same thing. Maybe I'll sell essential oil distillation kits out of 'toxin free' glass...

  7. Remember these words of wisdom by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

    "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."

    - Posted from my iPhone.

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  8. Re:Wow by Megol · · Score: 2

    Ah it's you again*. While I find your fascination with male-on-male fisting a bit weird I have to reply as that such a text could very well be a novel, a pornographic** novel but still a novel.

    (* I'm assuming you are the same dude(?) that have posted similar things earlier)
    (** assuming it is written for pornographic purposes)

  9. Vagina Rocks by Ngarrang · · Score: 2

    If you are dumb enough to stick a rock in your vagina, boy do you deserve what you get!

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  10. Re:back to what sells best by gnick · · Score: 2

    I'm not sure what you're talking about, but one of Goop's products is indeed vaginal. Colbert was talking about it Wednesday night. It's a small, strategically shaped stone that's used for exercises and claims to "improve vaginal muscle tone." It probably works better than balancing your body's energy frequencies with a sticker. Everyone knows that your can't balance your body's energy frequencies without magnets.

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  11. Re:back to what sells best by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

    Best line in TFA:

    You might as well shove a taxidermied honey badger up your cervix. It will have the same effect as a jade egg, and it’s free.

    Where can I get a free taxidermied honey badger?

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  12. Re:Gwyneth Paltrow and Tang by sycodon · · Score: 2, Funny

    She's Blonde, Hot, and makes shitloads of money in the movies.

    Why is she into this shit?

    Wait...she's Blonde, hot, and in the movies.

    Never mind.

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  13. Re:back to what sells best by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

    If someone borrowed my honey badger and it came back with cervix squeezens all over it's face, I wouldn't ever loan them anything again. Might be upset.

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    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  14. Why people are so eager to believe this stuff by Theovon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why do urban legends propagate? They're always described in exciting but plausible ways and often contain just a grain of truth. Moreover, occasionally an urban legend is true, as you can see from a minority of entries on the Snopes database.

    Interest in quack medicine stems from a variety of factors, different for different people, including:

    - People with real health problems who were let down by real MDs. This happens a lot, because not every MD can diagnose every illness. Meanwhile, so many alternative practitioners claim to be willing to help in ways that MDs "won't."
    - Various paranoid delusions about the government or "establishment" doctors trying to control or poison us.
    - Actual instances of governments letting us down (e.g. Flint, Michigan).
    - People with mental instability or who have been convinced they have some nebulous malady.
    - People with very minor health problems (e.g. a mild dairy sensitivity) who self-diagnose as something much worse.
    - People who read too much into what they got from 23andme and nutrihacker.
    - People who fall victims to charlatans who want to make money from your real or perceived illnesses.
    - On and on.

    What keeps people sucked in is that what the charlatans are saying have a grain of plausibility and truth.

    Take toxins for example. So many of these weirdos go on and on about toxins, but they're almost never specific about it. My MD (who has her degree from Yale) has a list of common ones. If someone telling you about toxins can't cough up something like that, you should tell them to fuck off.

    However, there are indeed toxins in our environment. Plus, things you eat and byproducts of pathogens also bring toxins into or bodies. In fact, most plants produce toxins as an adaptation against predation, and as consumers of those organisms, we are also counter-adapted to efficiently denature those toxins. Aside from some of the nastier ones (e.g. like an arsenic overdose), a healthy liver does a good job of cleaning that up, and you excrete them as waste. I don't recommend exposing yourself to too many environmental toxins, and I would suggest avoiding certain conventionally grown foods that absorb higher amounts of pesticides, but pretty much, most people are going to be okay and should just focus on good exercise and a balanced diet (although there is plenty of confusion out there on what constitutes a balanced diet).

    What's unfortunate is that there are indeed people who have problems with toxin build-up. But those people have some other underlying condition that scientifically explains why their livers aren't doing such a good job. An obvious one is alcoholics who have wrecked their livers over decades of overconsumption. Another example is people with untreated thyroid function, because there are aspects of detoxification that are regulated by thyroid hormones. I am highly skeptical of "detox programs," because toxin accumulation is never the root cause. If you fix the underlying condition, then your body will detoxify itself. So taking a bunch of crap meant to "stimulate" detox is likely to cause you more harm than good.

    I actually have a bunch of symptoms that those people would associate with toxification problems. My MD figured out, for instance, that my thyroid function was not up to par and prescribed T3 supplementation. It is helping because there isn't anything broken about my liver itself.

    I have encountered one detox protocol that I didn't think was utter shit. It's called ProtoClear, and all it is is vitamins and other nutrients you already need, but in their biologically active forms. For instance, instead of cyanocobalamin, it contains methylcobalamin. One ingredient I recall that fell short is that it contains folic acid instead of methylfolate. I actually have the MTHFR A1298C mutation, heterozygous, so my body's conversion may not be 100% efficient; it doesn't seem to be a big deal. Anyway, the idea is that if you take these chemicals that you need in their active forms, t

  15. Re: back to what sells best by KGIII · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'd suggest starting with acquiring a vagina. The badger follows that step.

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  16. Re: Health Advice (ugh... awful!) by KGIII · · Score: 2

    1. Do not take medical advice from the Internet.

    There. That will save some time.

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  17. Re: back to what sells best by war4peace · · Score: 4, Funny

    When all you have is a taxidermied honey badger, every hole is a vagina.

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