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Former Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer Defends Former Uber CEO Travis Kalanick (sfchronicle.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Former Uber CEO Travis Kalanick has absorbed blistering criticism for the way he handled allegations of sexual misconduct at the San Francisco riding-hailing service. But he can at least count on the support of one big name in Silicon Valley: former Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer. Speaking at the annual Stanford Directors' College Tuesday, Mayer defended Kalanick, suggesting that he was unaware of the toxic culture brewing at Uber because of the company's rapid growth. Mayer's name has come up in reports as a possible replacement for Kalanick at Uber, though there's no indication the company has had talks with her. "Scale is incredibly tricky," Mayer said. "I count Travis as one of my friends. I think he's a phenomenal leader; Uber is ridiculously interesting. I just don't think he knew," she said. "When your company scales that quickly, it's hard." Mayer then compared Uber's situation to the early days of Google when it first brought in Eric Schmidt as CEO to help co-founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page manage the company.

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  1. and this is news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sociopaths think alike.

    1. Re: and this is news? by dougdonovan · · Score: 1

      im thinking child support backfired. marissa is going to back travis to get her investment back.

  2. obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When your company scales that quickly, it's hard

    That's what she says

    1. Re:obligatory by tattood · · Score: 1

      How would she know what happens when a company scales quickly?

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    2. Re:obligatory by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Hey, you can scale down as well as up.

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    3. Re: obligatory by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Are you fucking stupid? She was at Google when they scaled like a motherfucker.

  3. Noooooo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While I couldn't care if Yahoo fell apart I do use Uber on occasion. I would not like to see Uber ruined by a serial bad-CEO

    1. Re:Noooooo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I couldn't care if Yahoo fell apart I do use Uber on occasion. I would not like to see Uber ruined by a serial bad-CEO

      Sounds like a "sexist, mysogynist, anti-woman" comment to me.....

  4. What? by HalAtWork · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After firing men with prejudice she's now backing up a man who took advantage of women in the workplace?

    1. Re:What? by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Power protecting power is the most common prejudice, even back to the Magna Carta days.

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    2. Re: What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She is a seed investor in Uber. I would guesstimate it accounts for at least 50 percent of her very substantial net worth, if she held on to all the equity. Travis made her rich. Therefore she is going to say good things about him

    3. Re:What? by swb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Definitely this.

      Shareholders chasing him out isn't about him being a bad leader, but them just protecting their interests and the company's PR standing.

      An "uninterested" third party CEO criticizing him and saying there was a standard of leadership he failed to achieve opens the door to other CEOs being held to higher standards or facing criticism, too. So Mayer's defense of him seems not unexpected.

      On the other hand, I think she does have some kind of point about this. To my naive mind, scaling a company like Uber up as fast as it has sounds like surfing a landslide that only gets bigger and faster. You have to delegate a ton of shit and can't pay close attention to a lot of it, especially if a lot of your energy is devoted towards business expansion, not existing operations.

      As for the harassment culture, I always wonder at what point you can hold one person responsible for a culture populated by hundreds or thousands of individuals. Maybe he was all bro culture at the beginning and new hires just picked it up and perpetuated it.

      The irony in all of this is that we pay CEOs like they were all-knowing, all-seeing, all-powerful and deserve to reap 99% of the rewards of the entire organization because they were 99% responsible for all of it getting done. This seems dubious on the surface, more so when executives like Mayer make the (possibly reasonable) excuses that he really isn't all-seeing, all-knowing. I mean which is it, CEOs are superhuman or they're not? If not, why pay them like they are?

    4. Re:What? by hipp5 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You have to delegate a ton of shit and can't pay close attention to a lot of it, especially if a lot of your energy is devoted towards business expansion, not existing operations.

      As for the harassment culture, I always wonder at what point you can hold one person responsible for a culture populated by hundreds or thousands of individuals. Maybe he was all bro culture at the beginning and new hires just picked it up and perpetuated it.

      More than likely this is the case, and that is his failing. As you correctly pointed out, a CEO can't deal with every minutia of a company. Their job, therefore, is to set the culture and expectations such that the peons who deal with the minutia do the "right" thing. A good leader knows that simple signals can have ripples throughout a whole company. Founding a company on bro culture leads to a company where harassment is tolerated.

    5. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, scaling a company is hard - most can't do it, including Travis. If he WAS able to do it, then it might make some sense to call him a good leader. If he was even a sort of good leader, he would have recognized he was in over his head a long time ago, brought in help, and Uber would probably be fine right now, but again that's NOT what he did.

    6. Re: What? by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 1

      That makes it make sense.

      It also demonstrates how the misogynerd narrative works.

      Nobody wants to actually address the problems of sexual harassment, if there are any. What it's about is dragging an entire gender caste in a certain profession through the mud in the press repeatedly.

      Feminism is at best a group of trolls, and the misogynerd narrative is trolling. At worst, feminism is a hate group based on its behavior towards trans women, but as concerns the general charge of sexual harassment against an entire gender caste, it's trolling.

      (Why gender caste? Because feminism believes that we live in a caste system like in India, where one's station in life is determined at birth according to the letter they put on one's birth certificate. At its core, it's artificial and has really nothing to do with gender or body parts in a physiological sense at all. I suppose I might as well just call it the feminist caste system. I should also mention it's predicated on the idea that gender is merely a social construct, which is demonstrably false.)

      Of course, the end goal of all that is to drive down wages and cement the impression in the mind of the general public that anybody can code the same as anybody can flip burgers.

    7. Re:What? by quantaman · · Score: 1

      After firing men with prejudice she's now backing up a man who took advantage of women in the workplace?

      On the topic of Kalanick's personal attitudes towards women we're really making some very big assumptions based on just a handful of public statements and incidents.

      Mayer might be biased because he's her friend and she wants to protect her friend (we all have friends with some questionable characteristics). Or Mayer might realize the public has some massive misconceptions about what kind of person Kalanick.

      I personally suspect the toxic culture at Uber is a consequence Kalanick and his leadership style. But I also feel like the Internet has a habit of demonizing people, Kalanick isn't some horrible womanizing sociopath, he's just a guy who wasn't quite made for that kind of role.

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    8. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no, it's not about defending a man who took advantage of women. Because that didn't happen.

      It's about creating a fake crime, and making him submit to the SJW agenda for atonement.(Any venture he takes part of will heavily invest in patreon accounts).

    9. Re: What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well,I always thought that was one of the responsibilities of being a CEO etc,you are ultimately responsible for the actions of the firm YOU control and for those working for YOU.
      I know much business regulation etc in the usa is worthless these days,and that due to corruption/incompetence what laws there are to control companies are lacking or useless,but if the ceo etc aren't responsible for the actions of a firm and its agents,who is ?

    10. Re:What? by stabiesoft · · Score: 1

      This, Arianna Huffington KNEW that the guy stole the self drive docs from google and she did NOTHING about it. I am hoping Alsup ends up sending the thief to the big house for 10 years, Travis gets 5 and everyone on the board that knew gets 2. That would send a message.

    11. Re:What? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      After firing men with prejudice she's now backing up a man who took advantage of women in the workplace?

      You know, if Marissa Meyer behaved like Travis Kalanick... a lot of guys would've been updating their resumes, trying to get hired by Yahoo.

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    12. Re:What? by tattood · · Score: 2

      That's what mandatory trainings are for. My company makes us take annual online courses related to sexual harassment, ethics, insider trading, etc. That is a relatively easy policy to institute, and it sets the tone for how the company should operate.

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    13. Re:What? by h4ck7h3p14n37 · · Score: 1

      Losers tend to have loser friends?

    14. Re: What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sort of seems disingenuous pretending either of them are losers.

      They've won. Game over, man.

    15. Re: What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How did you type so much without saying one sensible thing?

    16. Re:What? by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      You have to delegate a ton of shit and can't pay close attention to a lot of it

      But he absolutely knew and approved of some of the very worst of Uber's behavior: greyball, obtaining the rape victim's medical files, etc.

      "He was too busy to notice" only goes so far.

  5. Not his only failing by ranton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I could probably buy that Travis Kalanick was unaware of his company's toxic culture because of his other duties if that was the only example of him being careless and an overall jerk. But it isn't. It is pretty hard to defend Travis Kalanick as being a good person. And whether he is a good leader depends on your viewpoint about how important employees are to a company.

    If financial success of a company is the only important metric, then sure Travis is a phenomenal leader. But if you actually care about the people he is leading, it's hard to describe him as a phenomenal leader. Travis Kalanick is a great leader in the same way Michael Jackson's abusive father was a great parent.

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    1. Re:Not his only failing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The internet has been aware the toxic culture at Uber pretty much since its inception, there's no way in hell the CEO wasn't aware of it. He was probably largely responsible for it.

    2. Re:Not his only failing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And claiming to not be aware of it paints him as incredibly incompetent at his job.

    3. Re:Not his only failing by Desler · · Score: 1

      This is as absurd as when VW claimed the cheat devices in their cars were only installed by a "rogue employee" when later it came out that the CEO was fully aware of it.

    4. Re:Not his only failing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Loved the analogy - so true. Thanks!

    5. Re:Not his only failing by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If financial success of a company is the only important metric, then sure Travis is a phenomenal leader.

      More like if the ability to raise venture funding is the only important metric. Financially, for everything except venture money, they're doing rather badly.

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    6. Re:Not his only failing by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1

      You do know that Uber has never made money, right? They've raised plenty of VC, but they don't seem particularly good at actually making money.

    7. Re:Not his only failing by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      If financial success of a company is the only important metric, then sure Travis is a phenomenal leader.

      Err....that IS the only metric that really matters.

      I mean, you don't start a company for any other reason than to make money. That is its function.

      Anything else is gravy, and laws....

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    8. Re:Not his only failing by xevioso · · Score: 1

      Yes, but it it is true that, generally speaking, the most important asset a company has is it's employees. If you do not treat them right, or are unaware of issues affecting them, then you are not going to be able to fulfill your primary function, which is to make money. You can't make money without emplyees (duh!) and if you are *currently* making money without employees, that's because you *paid* employees (or in this case, contractors) to set up your company so you can make money without them.

    9. Re:Not his only failing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If financial success of a company is the only important metric, then sure Travis is a phenomenal leader.

      More like if the ability to raise venture funding is the only important metric. Financially, for everything except venture money, they're doing rather badly.

      You wouldn't buy into Uber if you could?

    10. Re:Not his only failing by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      I might. Now that the CEO is being replaced.

    11. Re: Not his only failing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What financial success ?
      Uber has never shown any profit and is still losing money by the truck load !!

    12. Re:Not his only failing by ranton · · Score: 1

      More like if the ability to raise venture funding is the only important metric. Financially, for everything except venture money, they're doing rather badly.

      Uber has at least claimed to be profitable in the US last year. I don't think they ever produced enough proof of that though, and there are plenty of ways they could fudge the numbers. But if Uber is profitable in the US and is only losing money by trying to match their current success in foreign markets then they could certainly be considered a financial success.

      Regardless, it is rumored that Uber's valuation on the secondary market is between $40-$50 billion, so to anyone who has owned Uber stock for a few years the company has been a financial success.

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    13. Re:Not his only failing by whoever57 · · Score: 1

      If financial success of a company is the only important metric, then sure Travis is a phenomenal leader.

      Err....that IS the only metric that really matters.

      In which case, he is a very poor leader. Uber is massively unprofitable.

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    14. Re:Not his only failing by edtice1559 · · Score: 1

      The financial performance of Uber is abysmal. Despite the fact that drivers subsidize the rides pretty heavily, they still lose money!

    15. Re: Not his only failing by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Not at their current valuation - hell no!

    16. Re:Not his only failing by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      Not in a million years. I have a functioning ethical sensibility.

  6. Fixed summary to make more cool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Former Uber cyber CEO Travis Kalanick has absorbed blistering cyber criticism for the way he handled cyber allegations of cybersex misconduct at the San Francisco riding-hailing cyber service. But he can at least count on the support of one big name in Cyber Valley: former Yahoo cyber CEO Marissa Mayer. Speaking at the annual Cyber Directors' College Tuesday, Mayer defended Kalanick, suggesting that he was unaware of the toxic cyber culture brewing at Uber because of the company's rapid cyber growth. Mayer's name has come up in reports as a possible cyber replacement for Kalanick at Uber, though there's no indication the cyber company has had talks with her. "Scale is incredibly tricky," Mayer said. "I count Travis as one of my cyber friends. I think he's a phenomenal cyber leader; Uber is ridiculously interesting. I just don't think he knew," she said. "When your cyber company scales that quickly, it's hard." Mayer then compared Uber's cyber situation to the early days of Google when it first brought in Eric Schmidt as cyber CEO to help co-founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page manage the cyber company.

  7. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She must have a mouth like a vacuum cleaner.

  8. Five years too late: "bring in someone else" works by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 3, Funny

    >> Mayer then compared Uber's situation to the early days of Google when it first brought in Eric Schmidt as CEO to help co-founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page manage the company

    I think she hit on something profound here: maybe Mayer should have brought in someone to manage Yahoo for her?

  9. Birds of a Feather... by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You mean Marissa "I was back at work a day after giving birth so everyone should be able to do that" Mayer is friends with the "I'm going to run my company the way it was run when it was a startup"?

    In my industry experience the mark of a good leader was one that could see alternative points of view and that possibly, just possibly, not everyone agrees with theirs.

    Mayer may have been a half decent CEO if she sat down and thought "Hm, maybe some women don't have an in-office baby sitter and would like to spend time with their children" or "Tele-working works for some of our best and brightest, maybe we shouldn't force them out". Nothing infinitely complex just a realization of different strokes for different folks.

    1. Re:Birds of a Feather... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      please shut the fuck up.

  10. She's a perfect fit for Uber... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The problem with Marissa Mayer, as mentioned in "I'm Feeling Lucky: The Confessions of Google Employee Number 59" by Douglas Edwards, employees will always find ways to work around her while appearing to do what she wanted. The jock culture at Uber may outwardly change if she became CEO but it would probably persist behind her back and cause other problems..

    1. Re:She's a perfect fit for Uber... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please stop, I can only get so erect.

    2. Re:She's a perfect fit for Uber... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Penis envy. A terrible disease. Sad.

    3. Re: She's a perfect fit for Uber... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      More affiliate spam from Creimer. Who would have guessed.

      And it's modded +3. This guy does this to almost every thread. He picks stories based on if there is a book closely related. Then post some well known shit and says, oh you can read it here at Amazon. But I want to make money off of slashdot. Atleast once 3-4 times a week he does this to threads.

      Fuck off creimer.

    4. Re: She's a perfect fit for Uber... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      He picks stories based on if there is a book closely related.

      Every book I recommend is a book I've read. If I haven't read a book but I think is relevant to the discussion, I'll point that out.

      But I want to make money off of slashdot.

      Slashdot is my fishbowl for new marketing ideas. If something works, then I'll try it on my websites. For example, book recommendations. Non-fiction titles get more clicks than fiction titles. Obscure titles (print only or out of print) get more clicks than current titles.

      Fuck off creimer.

      After you spent three months convincing me that Slashdot was still relevant to the real world? No way, Jose.

  11. Another company she can ruin by sydbarrett74 · · Score: 1

    Yay! Having exhausted the Fields of Yahoo, the Locust Marissa espies fresh prospects.

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    1. Re:Another company she can ruin by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Yay! Having exhausted the Fields of Yahoo, the Locust Marissa espies fresh prospects.

      OK, Mr Armchair CEO, what would YOU have done to er, double the value of Yahoo. Yahoo was in a long term, probably terminal slide. During her tenure, the value doubled and the company was bought out. From the shareholder's perspective that's not bad performance.

      But anyway, those .1%ers gotta stick together.

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    2. Re:Another company she can ruin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah... you realize that doubling came because of investment (Alibaba) made BEFORE Mayer became CEO, right? Right? The only thing Mayer did was fail to screw that up. That's all

      On second thought, maybe not. Since she still FAILED to keep Yahoo growing or independently successful IN SPITE of that investment. She could have completely rebooted things. Instead we got new logos and softer designs and shittier mail clients attempting to imitate the market leaders.

    3. Re: Another company she can ruin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As has been pointed out to you several times before, that value had nothing to do with her. None of her decisions caused any rise in value of the company.

  12. I guess she doesn't want the Uber CEO position by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well this is one way to be taken out of consideration without openly saying you don't want it (or apparently any other CEO position, ever).

  13. He did her, duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stockhold syndrome. Or maybe she just looking for another Golden Shower when she runs that company into the ground.

  14. Damn lies by Desler · · Score: 1

    So just more CEO scapegoating to dodge responsibility when anything goes wrong? They're always the sole reason for a company's succcesses yet are always completely in-the-dark for anything negative.

    1. Re: Damn lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Privatized profits and socialized losses. Heads I win, tails you lose. He (or she) that has the gold, makes the rules.

  15. It's his Job to Know by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    It's literally what he does for a living. Why is it when the guy that makes your Hamburger screws up he's relentlessly savaged but a CEO does it it's OK. Oh, wait. Ruling Class takes care of their own. Silly me.

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  16. Go figure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Next you're going to tell me that the CEO of Lehman agrees with them too. Of course I'll stick up for my buddies who earned hundreds of millions turning their companies into train wrecks when I earned hundreds of millions turning my company into a train wreck.

  17. Willful ignorance is implausible deniability... by Assmasher · · Score: 1

    There's absolute ZERO chance he wasn't aware that there were/are significant problems in this regard at Uber. He simply didn't care enough to actually face inward. Many CEOs who were with the company before it scaled have this critical flaw.

    They think that what brought them to scale was that they were almost exclusively outward facing - so they never make any effort to embrace scale properly.

    All software/internet oriented companies that tend to scale very rapidly need to scale in THREE distinct ways. Many only scale in one, some scale in two, the truly successful scale in all three. Those three ways (and the order in which companies are likely to scale) are:

    1. Technically - Ensuring your technology is scalable in a manner that it not revenue negative
    2. Organizationally - Staffing and organizational hierarchy (adding people.)
    3. Operationally - Process and delegation/responsibility (having a scalable plan.)

    The vast majority of found CEOs fail to do anything other than #1, then orphan #2 to somebody they personally trust but have no actual idea as to their ability to accomplish the job.

    This kind of sh** is in all the standard 'please learn from my suffering' books (such as 'The Hard Thing About Hard Things' and 'The Art of Scalability.') The problem is, most people read those books so they can randomly throw out a quote, they don't think it actually applies to them because - hey - "I'm a unicorn. My investors tell me how great I am all the time." Stop thinking you're going to write your own book someday - and execute first. Pontificate later.

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    1. Re:Willful ignorance is implausible deniability... by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      He simply didn't care enough to actually face inward.

      I think it's worse than that. I don't think he believes any of it is a real problem outside of PR impact.

  18. Oh man... by XSportSeeker · · Score: 1

    Yes, poor poor CEO... he was paid to do a job he couldn't because he was so naive. I'm so fucking blinded by living in a bubble filled with dollar bills.
    Gimme a fucking break Marissa. If that's the mindset you are going into to lead Uber, and apparently the justification you are giving to kill Yahoo, I hope Uber also dies if they decide to hire you. If Uber investors that are part of the board know any better, after this they should avoid hiring her at all costs.
    It's either a situation Kalanick created and has full responsibility for, or it's complete incompetence on the very specific job you are getting more than well paid for.
    Cry me a river.

  19. No, Sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not buying the whole "Kalanick wasn't aware of the toxic Uber culture" line. It's pure, unadulterated bullshit!

    - First of all, how does Meyer know what Kalanick did or did not know?
    - I've been around and had a rich career. You know what every incompetent or corrupt manager/executive uses as an excuse when things go off the rails? "I was not informed", that is the excuse;
    - It is the CEO's job to know. Not knowing might be true (unlikely, but possible). However even if true then that points to dereliction of duty on the responsibility to know about every substantive issue going on in the company. Corporate culture is the very definition of substantive;
    - This isn't an issue of a specific Purchase Order, a specific project, a specific market issue, or anything like that. It's about the Uber company culture! How does the CEO not know what the corporate culture is??
    - Meyer says Uber grew too fast. While some naïve observers will be tempted to accept that, who is responsible for the growth rate of Uber? Why that would be Kalanick!
    - Therefore if Uber's culture turned toxic because of rapid growth, Kalanick has 2 options. Reduce the growth rate to tackle the culture issues, or simply grow and fix the culture simultaneously. This isn't rocket science and the buck stops with Kalanick;
    - It's a real stretch to blame the rapid growth BTW. Does every high growth company develop a toxic culture? Ummmm.... No.

    Well that's weird, it's almost like Kalanick knew about the culture issues! And either the culture was entirely to his liking or he didn't care. Either that or he was ignorant and therefore in dereliction of his duties. I'll leave the reader to pick from any of these damning conclusions.

  20. a CEO is supposed to know - it's part of the job by colinwb · · Score: 1

    Regarding any CEO who claims - or about whom it is said - that they were unaware of some serious problems: a CEO is supposed to know - it's part of the job. Especially if they are getting paid mega-bucks.

    A story behind that comment: in the years before World War 2 the air defence of the UK was reorganised under the leadership of Air Chief Marshal Dowding, who managed the development of an integrated command and control system: ...The Dowding system is considered key to the success of the RAF against the German air force (Luftwaffe) during the Battle of Britain. The combination of early detection and rapid dissemination of that information acted as a force multiplier, allowing the fighter force to be used at extremely high rates of effectiveness. ... Although many histories of the Battle of Britain comment on the role of radar, it was only in conjunction with the Dowding system that radar could be truly effective. This was not lost on Winston Churchill, who noted that: "All the ascendancy of the Hurricanes and Spitfires would have been fruitless but for this system which had been devised and built before the war. It had been shaped and refined in constant action, and all was now fused together into a most elaborate instrument of war, the like of which existed nowhere in the world."

    Dowding did not have day to day control of the RAF fighters in the Battle of Britain, but was in overall command, for example managing reserves and rotating the pilots flying the fighters: in short, he had managerial skills of a very high order which were - in my view - demonstrably better than most CEOs today. But after the Battle of Britain had been won a meeting was held to discuss the tactics used. To Dowding's surprise, a relatively junior officer Douglas Bader (who had - wrongly - disagreed with Dowding's system, partly because Bader - undeniably courageous and an excellent fighter pilot - didn't understand it) attended the meeting. The result of that meeting was that, disgracefully, Dowding was dismissed, along with - even more disgracefully - Air Vice Marshal Keith Park, who had commanded the most important group of fighters in the Battle of Britain.

    What now follows is my recollection from reading "The Right of the Line" by John Terraine, which deals with the Royal Air Force in World War 2. At some point after that disgraceful meeting, Dowding said that he hadn't known about Bader's (remember, a relatively junior officer) disagreement about tactics, and Terraine remarks that possibly a solution might have been to transfer Bader from a relatively secondary group into the main group fighting in the Battle of Britain, which would at least have given Bader the action he craved, and might have kept Bader quiet. Terraine then quotes a senior civil servant remarking on Dowding saying he hadn't known about Bader: a commander-in-chief is supposed to know - that's part of the job.

  21. Please by Ryanrule · · Score: 2

    She got her job at google by working on her knees.

  22. Mayer should work for Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mayer should take a job with Trump. Obviously, she values personal loyalty over integrity, honesty, or competence. A perfect resume. Presiding over belly-up companies an added plus.

  23. Dear Uber, PLEASE Hire Her! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Dear Uber,

    We wholeheartedly endorse the notion that you might hire Marissa Meyer as your new CEO. We think she would be a fantastic addition to your team, and that her competency and managerial agility will help Uber usher in a new dynasty of success and profitability.

    Sincerely Yours,

    Lyft

  24. Who cares what Mayer thinks about anything? by bravecanadian · · Score: 1

    At this point hasn't the shine of being lucky enough to be an early employee at Google worn off?

  25. IT'S HIS JOB TO KNOW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF do you think a CEO does anyway?
    What are CEOs responsible for? Anything?
    (Haha just kidding, I am aware that in our society those with power have no responsibilities and those with the responsibility have no power. A perfect arrangement for the wastrel class that own 90% of all wealth and receive 90% of all income and demand to make their own share larger yet.)

  26. Rich people hate us all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not surprising that she doesn't care that he treats his employees like shit. She probably admires that.

  27. Gee that's rich by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What exactly did she do except shrink Yahoo and put a lot of people out of work? Oh I guess she got a big golden parachute for leaving. I have no respect for either one, so maybe they are two peas in a pod?

  28. just when you thought it couldn't get worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this is like getting an endorsement from Sarah Palin

  29. Dear Uber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are looking for women to abuse?

    HAHAHAHA I SUCK COCKS.

  30. Dear Marissa, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank you for applying for the position of CEO at Uber. We appreciate your interest in our organization and your commitment to transit reform.

    We received many qualified applications, and the hiring process has been a very competitive one. Although we were impressed with your qualifications, we have decided not to move your application forward. However, we greatly appreciate your interest in working with us and wish you the best of luck with your job search.

    Sincerely,
    Uber Board

  31. No surprise by JohnFen · · Score: 1

    I'm not surprised that Mayer is friends with the likes of Kalanick.