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US Imposes Stricter Security Screenings At Foreign Airports, But Won't Expand Laptop Ban Yet (theverge.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: The United States will require foreign airports to implement stricter security practices and screenings for any passengers headed to the U.S. John Kelly, the U.S. secretary of Homeland Security, announced today that the new measures were being put in place. Though he didn't go into specifics, Kelly said the new requirements would include further screenings of electronics, more thorough vetting of passengers, and measures meant to stop "insider attacks." The U.S. is also encouraging the use of more bomb-detecting dogs, "advanced checkpoint screening technology," and the addition of "preclearance" locations, which station U.S. customs officers overseas, allowing them to screen passengers before boarding instead of after they land. One thing Kelly didn't announce was an expansion of the tablet and laptop ban, which is currently in effect on flights from 10 airports in the Middle East and North Africa. If airports don't comply with the new screening rules, Kelly said, they may be subject to additional electronics bans. But for the time being, it sounds like the ban will be kept to those 10 locations. According to Reuters, airlines have 21 days to comply with the new rules for explosives screenings and four months to comply with everything else.
So this means that every airport with US-bound flights needs to have a 2nd security checkpoint just for the US-bound gates ?
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In the past ten years, there has been one successful plane bombing. When the fuck are voters going to grow up and realize it's not something anyone should worry about?
Something like 10,000 people are murdered with guns every year in the US, yet we hear NOTHING about banning laptops on guns!
Guns don't kill people, muslims kill people.
I basically avoid airports now unless I am traveling more than 8 hours by car. It was barely worth it before, it's absolutely not worth it anymore. I submit to airport screenings for international travel, but travel is just miserable now, knowing you have to go through that degrading experience, and will have to do it again on the way home.
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Man you are missing the point. WHY do you think there have been so few successful attacks? The layers of security catch a wide variety of screwballs-to-terrorists, and when intelligence sources get info that specific terrorists have in their possession the same xray scanners as used by airports and are using those to develop undetectable laptop battery based bombs, THAT IS A SPECIFIC CREDIBLE THREAT that they can counter in the short term by encumbering the public slightly.
Guess what? If there WERE a LOT of successful airline bombings? The airline industry as we know it would disintegrate, with massive economic consequences.
Because if I were a terrorist who wanted to reach my target in the US, I would just fly out of another country that isn't on the list. Maybe even one with less strict security. Problem solved. So, explain to me how this is going to protect us?
In the past ten years, there has been one successful plane bombing. [wikipedia.org] When the fuck are voters going to grow up and realize it's not something anyone should worry about?
Disingenuously put, sleazebag. A laptop containing an explosive got through x-ray machines at a Mogadishu airport in Somalia and was used to blow a hole in a Somalia plane in Feb 2016. While it didn't down the plane, it did successfully explode.
Your own link shows that within the last 10 years there were 4 different bombing attempts on planes taking off from Middle Eastern airports, with the last two actually exploding, and one being destroyed. Only a terrorist would judge a bombing a failure if the explosion didn't down the plane. Normal, rational people would judge their security to be a failure since explosives actually made it past airport checkpoints onto the plane regardless of whether they exploded or not.
When the fuck are voters going to grow up and realize it's not something anyone should worry about?
Honestly, it's when the media stops showing stories about it all the time. We're pretty screwed for the foreseeable future on this issue.
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No, when 'certain organizations' stop filling our heads with fantasies about invisible sky men who dislike people who talk to other invisible sky men then maybe we can grow up in this country. We're pretty screwed for the foreseeable future on this issue. Hint: They're not the news organizations.
Nothing will happen until the census is skewed enough to blue states from red states to affect the electoral college.
The census is probably the GOP and Russia's primary target for the next two years.
You do realize that the TSA has a 95% failure rate for detecting weapons? The TSA has been asked by congress how many terrorists were caught. Their answer is always the same, they can't tell you due to national security. In other words that number is a big fat ZERO.
People are generally bad at assessing risks. Smart people can usually compensate by thinking about it, but most people are stupid. Hence most people are fearing entirely the wrong things. And politicians without a shred of personal integrity (the standard kind) are quick to take advantage of that.
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Ahahahahahahaha, nice one! You do mean this satirically, right? Because otherwise you would ignore overwhelming evidence that all this security theater has no relevant effect except inconveniencing travelers and keeping people out that are not dangerous but have opinions the US administration does not like.
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Call it data driven, call it common sense, but I don't want to be inconvenienced myself just to avoid offending people from races, religions, and cultures that want to harm us.
In which US administration are we talking about here? Bush, Obama, and Trump have all banned travelers from different countries.
Or did you pretend that because Obama was liberal you could safely ignore that for eight years.
It's interesting that a carriage business has the responsibility of national security. Does that mean airlines will install a screening station on the sky-bridge, hire security guards and dogs and scanners to improve checkpoint examination? Maybe, they will refuse to land at any airport that doesn't provide the improved checkpoint services? In which case, who pays the costs of more guards and dogs and scanners, the airlines or the government, who owns the airports?
All countries should be demanding this, why should my government pay for US national security? Sure, we all benefit from secure airplanes, in which case, all international flights should enjoy the improved security rules.
every citizen is a suspect. Every tourist is a threat. Here's my advice: spend your vacation in another country where you are welcome. Vote with your wallet.
Guns don't kill people, $people_you_hate kill people.
I have a rock here, it protects you from tiger attacks. I have never been attacked by a tiger, since I had that rock.
Aside of that, no. The airline industry would not disintegrate. Traveling by plane is about as uncomfortable, as inconvenient, as cumbersome and as fucked up as it ever was. Especially when traveling to, from or in the US. I honestly don't know a single person who enjoys it. Not one. Anyone who can somehow avoid traveling by air already does so. People willingly replace air travel by train or even bus if at all possible. We do have airport bombings, which is pretty much the same deal as far as travelers are concerned since they have to go through airports to get to planes. And still people travel by plane.
People already don't want to travel by plane. They pretty much have to.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Is the TSA magically preventing plane bombing attacks in the remaining 95 percent of the world, or are they just accomplishing the same job as the rest of the world for much more pork?
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why is israel using the usa to control the complete world and push their doom scenario on all of the non jews ?
I travel inside Europe lot. I will take the train or rent the car, unless the distances are more than say 1000KM-1500KM. This means that I often pay more and travel longer than if I would go by plane and do so knowing that I could be somewhere faster and cheaper.
If land travel needs a sleepover, I will take the plane. Otherwise? Trains and/or (rental) cars.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
Technically they can't require foreign airports to do this. However, they can stop planes there from coming to the US, so it will be done.
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Take a look at the train sleeping cabins. Sometimes you can get sleeper cars for less than the plane ticket and unlike on the plane you sleep in something like a rolling hotel room.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
I recently traveled back from the US to Canada. I made the mistake of leaving my laptop in my checked luggage.
When I get home I find a paper in my bag informing me that my luggage had undergone physical examination by the TSA. Everything looks fine but when I try powering on the laptop, the power button lights up for a few seconds, then the laptop shuts itself down. The monitor never comes on. The keyboard is not responsive.
Fast forward a day later, I discover that they somehow fried the motherboard (I had Dell swap it out and everything worked fine after). Filing claims against the TSA is a nightmare. Tons of documentation is required and there is a 6 month turnaround time.
What a nightmare.
Well, as with any protection measures, it can dissuade large numbers of opportunists. That's why there are locks on doors. Sure you can break a window and barge in most anyplace, but by broadcasting (theater) that such behavior is unwanted or dis-allowed, it can & does keep dumb opportunists at bay.
Go roll down your car windows and park it in a bad neighborhood and expect it to be there in the morning. Next time you'll remember to park your car in the garage and set the alarm. Sure, someone can still take your car, but circumstances filter out all but the most determined.
Suicide attacks are not done by "opportunists".
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Aside of that, no. The airline industry would not disintegrate. Traveling by plane is about as uncomfortable, as inconvenient, as cumbersome and as fucked up as it ever was. Especially when traveling to, from or in the US.
You need to fly some better airlines. Not everyone crams people in like sardines, charges them for every little thing and then ignores them. Try flying an Asian airline like Singapore. I've flown LHR-SIN a few times and really, I'd hapily pay another $pound:100 over their competitors to fly them again. A standard seat is what other airlines call "premium", food is excellent, service is without peer and Changi-Singapore airport I would consistently rate as the worlds best... and this is a pale shadow of what you get in business.
Until sanity prevails, I shall be avoiding the US... Which is a shame it was once a nice place to visit and it would be a convenient stop over on the way to South America... however that is now Spain's gain.
I honestly don't know a single person who enjoys it. Not one.
I love flying. Its other people I cant stand. Even the narrowest of seats on the most budget of budget airlines is a lot more tolerable if you're not sandwiched in between two arseholes constantly elbowing you.
I swear the amount of elbows I get from some people, they must be practising the chicken dance. Hell isn't just other people, it's being stuck in a pressurised cigar tube with other people.
People already don't want to travel by plane. They pretty much have to.
Over here in Europe you've got options. You can take the train. I wouldn't fly from London to Manchester, I'd just hop on the next Virgin train heading up there. Then again, I'd fly to somewhere like Amsterdam because flying there is quicker. Air travel needs to compete with ground travel, here in Europe that's car, train and boat.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.