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India Presses Microsoft For Windows Discount in Wake of Cyber Attacks (reuters.com)

India is pressing Microsoft to offer a sharply discounted one-time deal to the more than 50 million Windows users in the country so that they can upgrade to the latest Windows 10 operating system in the wake of ransomware attacks, Reuters reported Friday. From the article: Microsoft officials in India have "in principle agreed" to the request, Gulshan Rai, India's cyber security coordinator, told Reuters over the phone on Friday. If Microsoft agreed to such a discount, it could open up the global software giant to similar requests from around the world. Rai said the government was in talks with Microsoft management in India. It is not immediately clear whether any other countries were seeking similar deals.

90 comments

  1. kindly do the needful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1


     

    1. Re:kindly do the needful by BozoForPresident · · Score: 1

      The food was terrible - and the portions were too small.

  2. lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lol @ Satya Nadella. Hey, call Microsoft support. I bet "Steve from Austin" will help you!

    1. Re:lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In response, Microsoft Sales LITERALLY laughed all the way to the bank

  3. Gulshan Rai is an idiot by hackel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    India has had EVERY opportunity to get off of Microsoft's garbage platform. Superior, FREE alternatives have existed for decades now. But instead, they chose to steal and pirate Microsoft's proprietary software, and now they want a bail-out. This makes me sick. Fuck Gulshan Rai and all of the asshole Indians who refuse to switch to Free and open source software. People have worked damn hard to create these alternatives to proprietary software—often the reasoning being that it is more accessible to those in the third-world—yet it's easier for them to simply steal. India deserves all of the ransomware it gets. Pricks.

    1. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by slashdice · · Score: 1

      The problem with FREE software is.... you can't steal it.

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    2. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      What? You write this as if 'India' is a customer.

      'India' is a nation, millions of customers. I wonder how much of a discount would be needed to get them all to migrate to Windows 10, given the concerted campaign to malign Windows 10, warranted or not.

      As if this is a pricing problem.

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    3. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AFAIK, the proper term is 'native americans'

    4. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Spy+Handler · · Score: 2

      Superior, FREE alternatives have existed for decades now

      Well "decades ago", let's say year 2000, you had to do a lot of dicking around just to get simple shit like sound and wifi working on these free OSes. And half the time you couldn't get it right at all.

      I will say that these days things have improved a lot in that regard. However if your #1 criterion for choosing an OS is the ability to run your custom applications, a free alternative that can't run them is hardly superior.

    5. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Zocalo · · Score: 1

      He doubly an idiot because it's clearly not going to make much difference. Microsoft was *giving* Windows 10 away for free (and still is, in some situations) because they were clearly hoping to monetise the data they could acquire from telemetry and the rest, plus sales from the Windows store and so on instead. They even had a not-quite-official amnesty for those with dodgy copies that enabled individuals with pirated copies of Windows (or no copy, if you thought it through) to get a legitimised copy of Windows 10, again entirely for free. Even now, if you download a trial of Windows 10 (again, for free), all it does when your trial period expires is nag at you; it's still perfectly functional otherwise and can be patched with a little manual work. For whatever their specific individudal reason(s), people still on older versions of Windows - legit or otherwise, in India or elsewhere - don't want to move Windows 10, and no "one-off price reductions" are going to make any significant in roads into that mindset.

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    6. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      India is probably worried about mostly XP boxes.

    7. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you custom-make an application, don't design it to only work on a proprietary platform. If you only custom-buy an application, don't buy one that only works on a proprietary platform. If there are no alternatives, then ...let's face it, truthfully there really are alternatives, but the polished Windows interface makes you feel comfortable and you secretly hope that making a big deal about the inferior interface on the otherwise superior open source alternative will somehow spur the open source community to start caring about how ugly you find their interface, and how uncomfortable it makes you to think about having to adjust your work-flow in order to seize control of the whole stack. If it is any kind of real problem, go custom-make the application you need, and become a leader in your domain.

    8. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Microsoft was *giving* Windows 10 away for free

      That is BS and you know it. Microsoft only allowed a very few of the versions of Windows and only certain editions to upgrade. They're embarrassed by Windows 10, and they don't want people to run it. That is why the blocked upgrades.

      Even if you had one of the few combinations that Microsoft allows to upgrade to 10, then not even all of those were free. Microsoft did not and never has given it away for free. They gave free *upgrades* to a few people.

    9. Re: Gulshan Rai is an idiot by dougdonovan · · Score: 1

      india needs to get 2 clues, 1- leave the US and go back to india, 2- microsoft is not responsible for the literacy level of 8b ppl.

    10. Re: Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. Windows 10 has never been free. They allowed a few people to upgrade to 10 for free.

    11. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He doubly an idiot because it's clearly not going to make much difference. Microsoft was *giving* Windows 10 away for free (and still is, in some situations) because they were clearly hoping to monetise the data they could acquire from telemetry and the rest, plus sales from the Windows store and so on instead. They even had a not-quite-official amnesty for those with dodgy copies that enabled individuals with pirated copies of Windows (or no copy, if you thought it through) to get a legitimised copy of Windows 10, again entirely for free. Even now, if you download a trial of Windows 10 (again, for free), all it does when your trial period expires is nag at you; it's still perfectly functional otherwise and can be patched with a little manual work. For whatever their specific individudal reason(s), people still on older versions of Windows - legit or otherwise, in India or elsewhere - don't want to move Windows 10, and no "one-off price reductions" are going to make any significant in roads into that mindset.

      As the saying goes 'If you're not paying anything for the item, you ARE the product"

    12. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      What? I remember a constant battle to prevent the bloody thing buggering up my Win 7 & 8 machines that were working fine. What are you smoking, and where can I get some?

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    13. Re: Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whom do you believe to be his employer? FSF?

    14. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows that Indians are like totally the best in the world at computers. Their own home-grown Linux distro is widely acknowledged to be the best in the world, beating RHEL and SLES on servers and routing all the Debian herbal varieties on deskies while being more flexible than Arch or LFS.

      So why the heck didn't they install that?

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    15. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes since you had one of the few versions and few editions supported. For the rest of us, Microsoft makes us either pay or doesn't allow an upgrade. Microsoft really is ashamed of 10 so they're limiting the damage it can do to the company.

    16. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "superior" ha

    17. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FYI, admins have less and less say over what platforms/applications/development tools companies use these days. We are at the mercy of bean counters, executives and dopey managers who don't give a crap about your or my opinions about inferiority, work-flow or much of anything else other than things like "does this new platform you're recommending run MS Excel, Outlook, our 30 existing critical business apps (inhouse dev and paid for of the shelf) that only work on Windows? nope, well there's your answer".

      Moving Excutives' cheese often leads to resume generating events, these people don't like change of anything for themselves, they expect everyone else to drop on a dime and do things exactly the way they say no matter how sub-optimal/inferior or GTFO!

    18. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? You write this as if 'India' is a customer.

      That's beside the point. The issue is that most of this shit code was written by outsourced India-based coders, or H1-B's from India. If anything, the government of India ought to be talking about paying Microsoft.

    19. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Altrag · · Score: 1

      MS was only giving it away to existing Win7 and Win8 customers. The recent spat of malware that's been going around has been so horrible that MS has even had to issue patches for XP, suggesting that XP is still highly used and a round of cheap/free offers for all people (not just 7/8 users) would probably still be a significant benefit.

      Of course, there's the issue of whether Win10 will run with anything approaching useful functionality on an XP-era PC. I'm sure there's a percentage of people who have stuck with XP just because they're stubborn, but the general masses typically work with whatever OS is installed when they get their PC, so if there's still a significant amount of XP out there, you can expect a significant amount of XP-era machines running it.

    20. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Altrag · · Score: 1

      Probably because even in India, "they" encompasses lots of people who have computing needs beyond "ERMGFOSSBBQ."

    21. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by unixisc · · Score: 1

      India has had EVERY opportunity to get off of Microsoft's garbage platform. Superior, FREE alternatives have existed for decades now. But instead, they chose to steal and pirate Microsoft's proprietary software, and now they want a bail-out. This makes me sick. Fuck Gulshan Rai and all of the asshole Indians who refuse to switch to Free and open source software. People have worked damn hard to create these alternatives to proprietary software—often the reasoning being that it is more accessible to those in the third-world—yet it's easier for them to simply steal. India deserves all of the ransomware it gets. Pricks.

      The 'superior, free alternatives' that you describe assumes that a huge % of Indians are like Stallman, or /. whizzes who know how to tweak files in /etc to make their computers work. They DON'T! Computer education in India is nowhere near what it is here.

      However, an increasing number of Indians do their internet on cellphones rather than PCs, and so the latter has lost a lot of its clout when it comes to India. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean Linux can take over. Maybe chromebooks can make headway, but given internet speeds in India, there has to be more storage - one can't just assign storage to 'the cloud'.

    22. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Dot, not feather

    23. Re: Gulshan Rai is an idiot by unixisc · · Score: 1

      '8b' is the world's population (actually, somewhat less than that), not India's

    24. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Decades ago, most non-shit computers ran an alternative OS, matter of fact, Windows couldn't handle most proper hardware (NE2000, full 56k modems, SCSI) without serious dicking around.

      Cheap computers with "free" Windows and proprietary drivers for even cheaper hardware is what got Windows to where it is. It had no security model, modems were soundcards, your CPU had to drive the hard drive (IDE) and peripherals (USB and even printers), and all that crap only came with Microsoft drivers and Microsoft actively blocked proper interaction with other software vendors. Between that and major screw-ups from incumbents like HP, IBM and others Microsoft rose to the top of the garbage pile.

      If you had proper hardware (Postscript printers, SCSI drives, proper modems that talked the AT commands), you could've used Caldera DR-DOS, Amiga, OS/2 until the early 2000's and Linux, BeOS or Mac since.

      I personally have never had my main computer running any Win9x or WinNT version. I ran Windows 3.11 with DR-DOS, switched to OS/2 and Linux after that, only fairly recently did I get MacOS (had a laptop since 10.3, desktop since 10.5). And yes, I could browse the Internet, IRC, ICQ and it was far faster, secure and more stable than Windows computers and never needed a virus scanner.

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    25. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      Second that. Had a work computer with Windows 2000 on it. Got some cheap WLAN card for it and it turned out that it would not work if the internal sound card was enabled so you had to choose between wireless or audio. Installing Gentoo on the same machine made both cards work simultaneously for some reason. My guess is that the fault lied in the crappy ass Windows drivers supplied with the wlan card.

    26. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      Can you even run Windows 10 on those old boxes?

    27. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Rockoon · · Score: 1

      Yes, and it was certainly ultimately an IRQ or DMA channel conflict which may have even been resolvable with a simple ini/registry tweak.

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    28. Re: Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, a year ago everyone was complaining at Microsoft installing windows 10 over windows 7 whether you wanted it or not. Which is it.

      For those who say free, I'm a Linux user sobalk for it. However for 6 months fought with Intel i7 video issues in Ubuntu 16.04. Finally when 16.04.2 came out I was able to upgrade kernel and xorg. Helped but still not perfect. Nvidia cards have given me problems too, 16.04 just quirky.

      Linux in desktop is small because of quirks like this.

    29. Re: Gulshan Rai is an idiot by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Gawd that's stupid.

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    30. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by guruevi · · Score: 1

      IRQ or DMA conflicts were resolved with dip switches, jumpers and later on in BIOS.

      ACPI came later and wasn't necessarily implemented well in either a lot of hardware, BIOS or in Windows so it caused a lot of problems around the era especially since some systems still came with an ISA bus, the 'only' solution in computers was to swap around the hardware slots until it worked (or only be able to use ~2 of the slots in your motherboard) or again, get proper hardware that allowed you to select an IRQ line.

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    31. Re: Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure you can. Take it and slap your name all over it and sell it.
      Bonus points if you put in tons of draconian DRM and anti-reverse emgineering tech that you also stole.

    32. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      LOL

      Have you been watching How To Move To Canada (If Trump Becomes President) @4:39 !

      And when I say Indians I mean feathers not dotsï.

    33. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Reading around the lines, the government of India is after 50 million free corporate licences, they are not interested in the digital home invasion version of Windows 10, only the secure version which the public can not buy. Hence the negotiations. Which went along the lines of, either provide cheap secure corporate licences or we will cripple the privacy invasive version of windows 10, and require a secure version only to be in India. Basically every government can do the same thing and M$ will buckle because of course the entire planet would buy from the country that gets an actual secure retail version of windows 10. Every time the demand no tracking, no compulsory software installs, no telemetry, M$ will buckle. Doesn't matter nothing will save those pieces of shit anyhow.

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    34. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funniest comment on this page.

    35. Re: Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw a lot of software companies doing this. Saw a hash (checksum) calculator which is being sold, when there's GnuPG and OpenSSL which has released the source code. Saw companies selling encryption utility too which have copy/pasted code from the same tools I have mentioned.

    36. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Second only to the Jews, Indians are schemeing business savvy champions.
      2. Let India stay on Windows. We do NOT need them doing support scams and being aware of alternatives.
      (3. Indian Linux distros do exist already)

    37. Re: Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why choosing a distro or choosing a hardware for your requirement is important. If you have Nvidia just search all distro which natively supports Nvidia. If you want to use Ubuntu search those PC shops with hardware which can be supported by Ubuntu.

    38. Re:Gulshan Rai is an idiot by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Superior, FREE alternatives have existed for decades now.

      Superiority is entirely based on your use case.

    39. Re: Gulshan Rai is an idiot by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Anyone who installed Windows 10 beta and activated weeks before release got free license, no purchase or upgrade necessary. I got like 5 free between laptops and VM's.

  4. Dis Is Windows Calling... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Your computer have virus.

  5. Windows 10 is still a free upgrade by BenJeremy · · Score: 2

    At least it is for Windows 7 and 8.x - Microsoft offers it free for those that use "accessibility tools" - in other words, if you upgrade, run the screen magnifier once, and you've met the legal requirements for the free upgrade.

    All of the mechanisms are still in place to activate the latest (Creator's update) Windows 10 installs using Windows 7 or higher keys. They'd be hard pressed to change this, since many upgraders will not have a valid Windows 10 key if they had to move to a new or used replacement PC system.

    Quite frankly, Microsoft isn't that concerned about consumers still getting a free upgrade; the bread and butter for Microsoft has always been licenses on new laptops and desktops and, of course, licenses to businesses. Microsoft actually wants users to migrate, for many reasons, most of which are good for consumers.

    1. Re:Windows 10 is still a free upgrade by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Except that in India, all Windows XP & 7 copies are pirated (dunno about 8). You can't upgrade a pirated Windows 7 to 10, and you can't upgrade XP to 10 w/o paying for it

    2. Re:Windows 10 is still a free upgrade by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      I wonder if those old boxes in India running XP are even capable of running Windows 10?

    3. Re:Windows 10 is still a free upgrade by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I'm sure Microsoft will consider the entire government of a country to be valid users of accessibility editions.

      Well they would in the USA government anyway. Mental disabilities are still disabilities.

  6. Lemme get this straight.... by ausekilis · · Score: 2

    "I see your free operating system. And I raise you waiting two years then complaining the price your charging is too high"

    1. Re:Lemme get this straight.... by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      This is presumably about getting people off XP or Vista, which never had a free upgrade path.

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    2. Re: Lemme get this straight.... by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      They got extended support for years instead.

  7. wow by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    This meal is awful.
    And the portions are so small.

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  8. "pressing" microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More like Microsoft Press. This is an amazing marketing strategy. Last week it was that european country and the London police, now all of india. You get an upgrade! You get an upgrade! Everyone gets an upgrade! Now the whole world runs Windows 10, the most amazingest stablist securist OS* evar** ***

    * version of windows
    ** still supported
    *** not liable for any hacks of Windows 10

  9. Indians like to haggle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They must think this is some kind of 13th century thugee bazarr.

    OK, you get a dollar off for every bag of human feces you collect from the street in front of your office. You probably can get a $20 discount for 10 minutes work.

  10. Classic India by pablo_max · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously, this is a typical Indian move.
    I am pretty sure that it is something which is woven into their culture.

    I have several India firms as clients. Typically they are serving as an OEM for a larger US or EU brand, but they are responsible for getting all of the certifications ahead of time.
    So, we give our standard offer. They say, no no no, that is WAY too much. Way more than your competitors.
    We say, what are you looking for?
    They say, it must be at least 40% less than this.
    We say... OK, we can do 30% less, but we will not offer any support. If you do not know how to fix something, or fill out some form, then it's not our problem.
    They agree.
    Then, they fuck everything and demand support and extra support. I forward them the earlier emails and reminding them they agreed to no support and tell them that I would be happy to send out a new offer to include support at our standard list price. They decline.

    Then for the next project, they ask for an even bigger discount because the support last time was not good. Every..fucking...time.

    1. Re:Classic India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Us: We want to build a mobile first web application
      Them: Ok

      Then they go and build a mobile app (native) and a desktop only web application

      Us: Do you even know what mobile first means?
      Them: m.slashdot.org?
      Us: No stupid, read the contract

      Reality: Its too late you're knee deep (millions deep) into production of the desktop web application now, so you have to go for mobile responsive on the desktop app in an effort to have a common user experience between the mobile and desktop apps they have developed.

      Welcome to 'a fuck up'.

    2. Re:Classic India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indians are the Jews of south Asia.

    3. Re:Classic India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is because the standard employee training is stovepiped into successful-templates. And you learn something well & force all projects to fit your expertise.
      What you experienced was: They knew how to do desktop but accepted your mobile offer because it was money- and they'd bs or fix it later.

      Landing contracts is the main goal. Quality work is secondary.

    4. Re:Classic India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is this a troll?

      so you have to go for mobile responsive on the desktop app

      So you were forced to do what you should've done in the first place? Dumbass.

    5. Re: Classic India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm Indian and I've never done this. Thank you for your stereotyping.

    6. Re: Classic India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      POO IN LOO.

      Captcha is "browned." topkek

    7. Re: Classic India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it bad to say bears live in the woods?

      Is it bad to say Indians like curry?

      Is it bad to say Indian business culture is a pain to deal with?

    8. Re:Classic India by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      I think you missed one step where the lead programmer opens a thread on Stack Overflow with "I make app how? Please advise"

    9. Re: Classic India by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      So you don't do business then ;)

    10. Re: Classic India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seeing that you keep going back to them to try and peddle your wares, I think you're just sour they called you out on your overpriced shit :/

    11. Re: Classic India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well Indians are pretty much the people of South Asia.

    12. Re: Classic India by pablo_max · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because that is the only option. Man, you are like one of those jack asses who hears someone complain about a policy of America that they do not agree with and says, "If ya don lik it... git out!".
      In every line of work we are forced to deal with fucking morons and asshats. That's life. That doesnt mean that we need to like it or that we cannot complain about it.

    13. Re: Classic India by pablo_max · · Score: 1

      Actually, no.. we don't.
      We do not actively market our service to anyone. There are very few companies who do what we do. Only 3 or 4 that I know of. The phone rings and we answer it.

      As I mentioned to the previous poster, who unlike you was not such a little pussy that he needed to post under AC... Sometime we have to deal with assholes (like you) and that is life. But we are still allowed to complain about it. If you do not want to hear about it, stop reading and stick your finger in your ass.

    14. Re: Classic India by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      Hardly (considering that I'm not American), but I've been told that sarcasm doesn't work on the Internet so sorry that you misread my post.

    15. Re:Classic India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know racism is a term thrown around even when there is not justification for it. But your comment is plain racist. It is like saying Jews are cheap, it is inherent to their culture. I'm not surprised though, Slashdot is a dying site with loads of racists like yourself. No wonder you got modded up.

  11. oh no, Microsoft's worst nightmare by kelanos · · Score: 1

    A vector for them to force their contribution to the mass surveillance drag-net onto millions of innocent people

  12. Time to put the nerd back in news that matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "I see your free operating system. And I raise you waiting two years then complaining the price your charging is too high"

    Have you ever done business in India? This move makes perfect sense to them.

    The business culture in India is the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition minus long term planning and the charm.

    They were thinking:
    Rule of Acquisition 11: "Even if it's free, you can always buy it cheaper."

    Now they are thinking:
    Rule of Acquisition 184: "A Ferengi waits to bid until his opponents have exhausted themselves."
    Rule of Acquisition 34: "War is good for business." (or disaster in this case)

    But what they forgot:
    Rule of Acquisition 82: "The flimsier the product, the higher the price."
    Unknown Number : "The more time they take deciding, the more money they will spend."

  13. threaten to switch everyone to Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That usually results in the one making the threat being paid to install Microsoft Windows.

  14. Subsidy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A discount to one group will certainly be passed along to other consumers. So I have to subsidize discounted India licenses now? Seems like something the Indian government should be doing

  15. All the better to scam us... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hello, this is Windows Support. Your computer is showing us that you have . .

    Eff you, India.

    Hello - this is MacroSoft, you killed my father. Prepare to die.

  16. please understand my unique circumstances by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and give me free software haha

  17. I took a huge shit in India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and it actually improved the country. It was less penetrating than the sickly-sweet odor of the trash fires burning day and night, and far less offensive than the thick, humid stench of Indian bowel movements deposited on every pathway.

    Should I bill them

    1. Re:I took a huge shit in India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you for your contribution to global understanding. That was a fine peace offering you left for your Indian hosts.

  18. Sure we'll do that if... by randomErr · · Score: 1

    Sure we'll do that if give us a 20 year tax break on building new manufacturing facilities. Someone has to build all the wireless keyboards, mice, and Clippy Amiibos for the next Smash Bros. game.

    I see you may need help doing that hadouken..

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  19. psst... by CaptnCrud · · Score: 1

    do you mind if we can upgrade all our pirated copies of windows? It would be nice to receive security updates again!

    1. Re:psst... by Altrag · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You say that as a joke, but MS really doesn't mind that much.

      Of course they'd prefer if you pay, but if you refuse to do that then their 2nd choice is that you pirate their software rather than using somebody else'. If they're not getting money from you either way, then they may as well at least get the vendor lock-in and other such intangible benefits.

      And these days especially, they would MUCH rather you use a free (whether pirated or given) version of Win10 than previous versions of Windows. Again, they aren't getting money either way so the intangible benefits are more critical. Particularly the fact that they can issue security patches and try to reign in some of the bad press they always get that isn't really their fault. Of course they also (rightfully) get plenty of bad press for things that are their fault, but its pretty hard to blame them for getting hacked if you're using a 15 year old OS (and they're apparently still able and willing to issue patches for XP when things get really really bad as we've see over the past few weeks.)

  20. imagine by bobmajdakjr · · Score: 1

    imagine a world so secure that microsoft has just cause to charge as much as they do. if discounts were requires by law every time they fuck up a lot of things would be nicer.

  21. List of Indian rail accidents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1890s:
    5 November 1891 - A mail train derailed near Nagpur, killing 10 passengers and leaving 35 others injured.

    1900s:
    24 October 1907 - A passenger train collided with a freight train at Kot Lakhanat station. 11 killed and 27 others injured.
    2 December 1908 - 18 people were killed and 20 others injured in a collision of two mail trains at Barana station.

    1920s:

    A spiral on the Darjeeling Himalayan Railway, 1921.
    April 1920 - 50 people killed and 50 others injured in a rail collision.
    7 October 1920 - 40 people killed when the Madras - Bangalore Mail derailed around 3 km after Arakkonam.

    1930s:
    17 July 1937 - An express train from Calcutta plunged down an embankment near Bihta station, about 15 miles from Patna. At least 119 people were killed, and 180 others injured.
    28 June 1939 - 10 people were killed and 21 injured in a train accident.

    1940s:
    4 October 1942 - 12 people were killed and 40 others injured in a railway accident 40 miles northeast of Bombay.
    22 September 1947 - A train carrying more than 4500 Muslim refugees was attacked by armed Hindus and Sikhs at Amritsar station and fired upon for three hours. The attack was a response to the earlier massacre of Hindu and Sikh refugees at the Lahore station. 3418 people were either killed or missing, and 1328 others were wounded.

    1950s:
    April 1950 - 32 people were killed when a train derailed and crashed into a river.
    7 May 1950 - At least 81 people were killed and 100 others injured when a train plunged off a bridge in the state of Bihar.
    3 September 1951 - Ten people were killed and thirty others injured when the Sharanpur Express derailed about 11 miles from Delhi.
    June 1953 - Five people were killed and fifty others injured in the collision between a passenger and a freight train between Semapore and Kalihar.
    4 January 1954 - A passenger train derailed while crossing a bridge near Bhatinda, killing at least 15 people and injuring another 40.
    31 March 1954 - 31 people were killed, and 32 others injured near Gorakhpur by the detonation of explosives being transported on a passenger train.
    15 September 1954 - A train crashed into a truck carrying students at a crossing 80 miles north of New Delhi, killing 10 and injuring 18 others.
    28 September 1954 - A train crashed into the Yasanti river, about 75 km south of Hyderabad, when the bridge collapsed. 139 people were killed and more than 100 injured.
    2 September 1956 - A bridge collapsed under a train between Jadcherla and Mahbubnager, about 100 km from Hyderabad. At least 125 dead, 22 injured.
    23 November 1956 - 104 people were killed and 100 others injured 175 miles south of Madras when a train plunged into a river from an embankment weakened by flood.
    2 June 1957 - 18 people died and 53 others were injured when a passenger train crashed into a stationary train in Bombay.
    November 1957 - At least 50 people were killed and more than 50 others injured in a rail accident.
    21 May 1958 - An express train derailed near Chamaraj. 31 people killed and 41 others injured.

    1960s:
    4 January 1961 - Head-on collision of two passenger trains near Umeshnagar. 35 died and 61 were injured.
    8 March 1961 - 11 people were killed and 37 others injured in a collision between a passenger and a freight train between Kalihar and Bihar.
    October 1961 - 40 people were killed and many others injured when a train derailed 200 km from Kolkata.
    22 July 1962 - 48 people were killed in a train crash in northwest India.
    12 November 1962 - 25 passengers riding on the roof of a train were killed when they were hit by a bridge girder.
    23 December 1964 -In Rameswaram cyclone (also known as the Dhanushkodi cyclone) the Pamban-Dhanuskodi passenger train was washed away. All 150 passengers on board were killed.
    19 June 1965 - 15 people were killed when a freight train collided with a train carrying railway workers. The accident occurred about 500 miles from Bombay.
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  22. Basically by budsetr · · Score: 0

    So basically: Nation of asshats asks vendor they stole all their shit from for a discount? Microsoft should just give them a tech support number in India to call.

  23. 50 million by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    There is a billion people in India, and only 50 million (5%) use Windows?

    1. Re:50 million by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      50 million is probably the size of the officialdom there.

      But those negotiations should not be going entirely badly, seeing how Satya Nadella is the CEO of Microsoft.

  24. Re:If you work around India / Hindu-tech... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So you're arguing that Indian Muslims, or Pakis or Bangladeshers would be better software engineers than 'computer-hindus'?