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With a Single Wiretap Order, US Authorities Listened In on 3.3 Million Phone Calls (zdnet.com)

US authorities intercepted and recorded millions of phone calls last year under a single wiretap order, authorized as part of a narcotics investigation, ZDNet's Zack Whittaker reports. From the article: The wiretap order authorized an unknown government agency to carry out real-time intercepts of 3.29 million cell phone conversations over a two-month period at some point during 2016, after the order was applied for in late 2015. The order was signed to help authorities track 26 individuals suspected of involvement with illegal drug and narcotic-related activities in Pennsylvania. The wiretap cost the authorities $335,000 to conduct and led to a dozen arrests. But the authorities noted that the surveillance effort led to no incriminating intercepts, and none of the handful of those arrested have been brought to trial or convicted.

85 comments

  1. So much winning! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Great success! Flawless victory! The war on drugs is now over!

    The drugs won.

    1. Re:So much winning! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      It was never about the drugs. It is about control of people who think differently.

    2. Re: So much winning! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last year... 2016... how many of those 3 million wire tapped were Republican?

    3. Re:So much winning! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      with 0 warrents, 1.00 x (all records) == recorded

      nobody ever typed that

    4. Re:So much winning! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      calm down & take of teh alumnum hat. it was less then 1% of americans effected (most where probably criminals/terrorists anyways) so its no biggie. long as u arent doing no thing illegal y wud u worry?

    5. Re: So much winning! by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      Last year... 2016... how many of those 3 million wire tapped were Republican?

      Exactly, let's go back to 2016 where we were going after the real criminals.

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    6. Re:So much winning! by Megol · · Score: 0

      Like those that think a society should protect the people against dangers? Those that realize that a drug addict have no control? Those that knows the costs for an individual, a family and the society drug abuse have?

    7. Re:So much winning! by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      Control of Apple users?

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    8. Re: So much winning! by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

      Last year... 2016... how many of those 3 million wire tapped were Republican?

      Exactly, let's go back to 2016 where we were going after the real criminals.

      Thanks! Reality intrudes again!

    9. Re:So much winning! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Megol posted:
      >Like those that think a society should protect the people against dangers? Those that realize that a drug addict have no control? Those that knows the costs for an individual, a family and the society drug abuse have?

      And yet, those very things have never been contained through the use of force via legal apparatus. Your stance is the very argument of a prohibitionist era proponent, whose actions did nothing to help families with addiction problems or promote treatment over persecution. In fact, it did a great deal to feed the power and growth of organized criminal elements, not to mention sow division and violence among the populace. Prohibition increases demand. It is advocated only by the ignorant, and profiteers who wish to capitalize on the misery it produces. It's no more effective against addiction, than imprisonment, torture, and execution is against the spread of disease!

    10. Re:So much winning! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. so much this.

      educated people study world economics and world culture. from this they learn that MANY progressive countries are far ahead of us on this. they now treat addiction as a MEDICAL problem, and not a CRIMINAL problem.

      and they have brought their drug problems under control. meanwhile, all we've done is put more people in jail and make the private prisons richer with modern, socially acceptable, slave labor.

    11. Re:So much winning! by doccus · · Score: 1

      Control of Apple users?

      Precisely! Drink Thifferently... Sorry, couldn't find a matching word for druggin' differently.. but drinkin' is a droog too, eh?

  2. none... have been brought to trial or convicted. by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    But they rot in prison, right? I feel so safe!

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  3. Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was recently asked to bake a cake for a couple living in a sinful lifestyle...should I bake it for them?

    1. Re:Question by Tulsa_Time · · Score: 2

      Did you discuss it on the phone with anyone ?

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    2. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just my meth dealer in Pittsburg. He gives me a discount for every gay cake I bake, so you can see my conundrum.

    3. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup just put a cross on the cake.

    4. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried that once, but the cross ended up looking like a penis.

    5. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cross is always a penis!

    6. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know, right? And that little boy always wants to have sex with me. Life's funny that way.

    7. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was recently asked to bake a cake for a couple living in a sinful lifestyle...should I bake it for them?

      Don't do it! Those cakes make Jesus sad.

    8. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That choice should be up to you and them, it's a voluntary exchange between two parties.

    9. Re: Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This cake shEEt, crap. Supreme court?!

      Baker: I will not make the cake.

      SCourt: You will or we will... fine you.

      Baker: My religion is worth more than money to me and I will not obey. You can fine me, you can inhibit me and you can prevent me; you cannot MAKE me. If I go down as a martre, I will not be the only one. More will follow, where would it stop?! Would we all one day end up baking cakes at the insestant need of fantastic hordes of faggotory bound pastry hounds.

      SCourt: ...

      I really hope they try to enforce a ruling dictating or mandating he must make the effing cake. It will disintegrate the system.

    10. Re: Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Suffer the little children who cum before me.

  4. Re:none... have been brought to trial or convicted by gweihir · · Score: 1

    Yes, a great victory for... basically nobody.

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  5. Something, something, republic, tenuous grip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When your law and order is "granted" access to the information that is meant to protect its people from military might and the means of mass destruction and is then used to search, vet and prosecute those very same people you have to wonder what sort of constitutional allowances materialized out of thin air.

    Apparently there is no Law of the Land, only Authority. Welcome to your government, one filled with scoundrels, devils, saints, thieves and liars. Welcome to the mirror.

    Assholes.

  6. Explain this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why are republicans stupid? They are stupid. Why? Is it that the few (billionaires) can make these (many) stupid people do their bidding?

    1. Re: Explain this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what's even more stupid! The part in the SUMMARY that said it was last year, which means again it was DEMOCRATS secretly tapping citizens in the name of ambiguous investigations.

    2. Re: Explain this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You misspelled ambitious.

  7. Control-F Trump by ckatko · · Score: 0

    No takers. Wow. Is Slashdot finally getting rational again? Maybe I should wait another 30 minutes.

    1. Re:Control-F Trump by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nah... the issue is you're on a Mac - so you needed to hit Command-F.

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    2. Re: Control-F Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am also surprised.

      Anyway, obviously Trump had nothing to do with this, and he seems unlikely to change anything, either. Both major parties are stocked full of those that deeply believe only surveillance can keep us safe- this wasn't even an issue during the election, after all.

  8. Only ten cents per wiretap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm more impressed with the government's efficiency in this case than annoyed by the privacy violations. It's amazing they did it that cheaply.

    1. Re:Only ten cents per wiretap? by helsinki92 · · Score: 1

      Absolutely. This is the perfect argument for the NSA. Judge, by installing more taps we are costing the American tax payer less money through economy of scale. Its a win-win for the American people.

    2. Re:Only ten cents per wiretap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No this is ripping off the taxpayer in multiple ways.

      Once can eavesdrop on millions of calls for a lot less than this. Should cost no more than $15k.

    3. Re:Only ten cents per wiretap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was still a huge waste of money. $0.10 was the charge for all the personnel involved in the operation. But you still need humans to pick out calls and determine them to be useful to a prosecution. This is a classic case of gathering too much information to process, therefore no results.

    4. Re:Only ten cents per wiretap? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Everything that can be sold or can connect to the the US telco network is wiretap friendly. Voice, ip, number call, text, files, logs, images, remote turn mic on, remote turn camera on, gps.

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  9. Re: none... have been brought to trial or convicte by dougdonovan · · Score: 2

    can you hear me now ?

  10. 1 = 3.3 Million? by Zurkeyon3733 · · Score: 2

    Yeah this sounds like US LEO-Logic... Way to go Common core! :-D

  11. Wrong Administration by Kunedog · · Score: 2

    It was "last year" and that's not the POTUS we'd wage a never-ending demonization campaign against.

    1. Re:Wrong Administration by Mashiki · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Keep in mind that's also the POTUS that if you dared speak out against, the first response from the progressives was that: "you're a racist." But hey, they can keep digging that hole, sure going to be interesting with Rice testifying now, especially after all that backtracking and that it appears that the previous administration illegally unmasked people for political reasons(or that her story has changed and that she actually did unmask names illegally). And that those records were sent to the Obama library(which hasn't been built yet) and will take an act of congress to actually uncover, unless after that testimony that they subpoena them which is likely going to be the case.

      inb4 someone claims legal insurrection is a partisan site, and not operated by one of the top law blogs run by a clinical law processor at Cornell.

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    2. Re:Wrong Administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think the problem people are having with the current POTUS is that he is a colossal fucking retard who claims people like Alex Jones are respectable members of the media.

      I certainly don't care if you're racist. Everybody's racist. I just care if you're an idiot. And the orange clown and his salad tossers are some of the biggest idiots we have seen in a long time, a weird mixture of terrified and ignorant old people, and unemployed and uneducated young people.

    3. Re:Wrong Administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So a guy gets into a political office, and somehow this just adds jobs immediately to the economy? Interesting, I'd like to see how this economic model is designed.

      Dumbest people on the planet are the brainwashed right, followed closely by the brainwashed left, but still in the lead.

    4. Re: Wrong Administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really simple: businesses are more willing to be fluid with cash reserves when a President isn't openly calling for their destruction.

      Trump really didn't do anything, correct. He simply didn't have to do anything.

    5. Re: Wrong Administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the low unemployment numbers present at the end of Obama's term, well before anyone even knew Trump could win, was due to trump's inaction?

      In the world of the Trump supporter, how import might you gauge, say, causality? Does it exist?

    6. Re: Wrong Administration by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      In the world of the Trump supporter, how import might you gauge, say, causality? Does it exist?

      Well let's go with causality. When unemployment was trending up on the basis that Clinton was going to win, and suddenly revered when Trump won? That's a pretty good correlation isn't it.

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  12. With a Single Wiretap Order, US Authorities.... by DivineKnight · · Score: 2

    "And they learned nothing."

    1. Re:With a Single Wiretap Order, US Authorities.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "And they learned nothing."

      Oh, you think 3.3 million phone calls was worthless in the big picture, do you?

      Try not to believe the bullshit cover story so hard. Parallel construction isn't some fucking myth.

    2. Re:With a Single Wiretap Order, US Authorities.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "And they learned nothing."

      Except how to spy on 3+ million phone calls and get away with it. Not sure if we are going the way of 1984 or the movie Brazil.

  13. skeptical of the maths by rmdingler · · Score: 2
    3,300,000/26 suspects = 126,923 calls per suspect in two months?

    9065 calls per suspect per day=377 per day, or one call every 15.738 minutes if none of them sleep.

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    1. Re:skeptical of the maths by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Basically a fishing expedition authorised by secret courts. So 26 suspects and everyone they called and all the people that those people called and then all the people that those people called and on and on it went. Blatant criminal fishing expedition, criminal as it exceeds the laws governing search warrants by a huge margin. Planned from the start and approved by an extremely corrupt judge.

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    2. Re:skeptical of the maths by mentil · · Score: 1

      The 26 people were being tracked; reading between the lines, I'd say that Stingrays were used to try and find the location of these 26 suspects, and 3.3 million calls were routed through the Stingrays for the duration of their usage. Those calls didn't necessarily have their content 'listened in on.'

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    3. Re:skeptical of the maths by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Think of it in terms of 3 or 4 hops of connections from one really well presented court request. Friends of friends of friends of the internet account across the street.
      That maths gets big even with a few family, kin and average number of work, educational, friends been connected in the first 2 hops. 3rd and 4th hop gets bigger still as they all get collected on as a new hop.
      4 hops of connections to any US/international communications over decades and generations gets a lot of people all around the USA.

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    4. Re:skeptical of the maths by AHuxley · · Score: 0

      A court order can be very creative like that. An area has generations of people doing drug deals.
      People in the area are looking to buy drugs. Moving drugs for sale, cars driving after a drug deal. Driving to get more drugs after a sale with drug cash from the last drug sale.
      Buyer, seller, resupply, drug cash been moved. The entire area is infested with buyers, sellers and the resulting drug money been moved around.
      Every car stopped over the decades have been found with "compartments" that can be used for cash or drugs.
      All money confiscated from all drivers in the area has been tested and always has traces of drugs on it.
      Track everyone and all their friends, and their friends, go back 4 hops just for been detected in the area.
      All the expensive new smart phones confiscated the area also have list of names under "contacts" on them.
      Given the area and the reason a person has to be driving in that area to buy or sell drugs the contacts should be considered part of an ongoing investigations.

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    5. Re:skeptical of the maths by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Or just an extremely lax judge. Investigators know how to play the system - if they want to push the limits of a warrant, they will know which judge is most likely to say yes.

    6. Re:skeptical of the maths by Hank+the+Lion · · Score: 3, Interesting

      3 or 4 hops.
      Suspect calls pizza delivery service (1 hop)
      Now everyone who has called that pizza delivery service is under surveillance _as only the second hop_.
      In this way, 3.3 million people are easily reached from 4 hops from people under surveillance.
      I doubt that the ones signing the legislation allowing 4 hops were aware of this.
      If they were, all the worse.

    7. Re:skeptical of the maths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or just an extremely lax judge. Investigators know how to play the system - if they want to push the limits of a warrant, they will know which judge is most likely to say yes.

      And with the right attention and spotlight, the public will know who not to vote into a position of power ever again.

      Of course, this assumes the majority of the population still gives a shit about privacy. They don't.

    8. Re:skeptical of the maths by AHuxley · · Score: 2

      Some good charts existed in the press about the 3 hop size of investigations.
      With 3 'Hops,' NSA Gets Millions Of Phone Records (July 31, 2013)
      http://www.npr.org/templates/s...

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  14. Re:And we're supposed to believe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well why would one want to build a wall on the US-Mexico border if not to better control the drug trade? Only certain people are allowed to collect that money and wield that power.

    Have you seen the 2010 movie Machete? Talk about life imitating art.

  15. You say this as though.... by kelanos · · Score: 1

    You say this as though one branch of the government or other isn't tapping every phone call at all times.

    I think the true headline is they were forced to admit they USED 3.3 million of the records they already had.

    1. Re:You say this as though.... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You say this as though one branch of the government or other isn't tapping every phone call at all times.

      Yes, how quickly they forget.

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  16. Call Centre? by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

    Did they get a wiretap order for a call centre that one of the suspects worked at or something?

  17. The real issue. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is Slashdot, and there's still some small modicum of people who aren't cubicle bitches here.

    So I gotta ask:

    Anybody get all up in your business about the contracts you bid on and fulfill?

    Why's a bakery different - why are they forced to bake a rainbow wedding cake? Why's nobody bitching about web developers declining to work on porn sites, for example?

    Admittedly, I'm all for forcing people to do their jobs. Bake that fucking rainbow cake, Isaac. Serve that fucking beer, Achmed.

    But that should go for _every_ job. Get started on that kinkster site, beardo.

    1. Re:The real issue. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why's a bakery different - why are they forced to bake a rainbow wedding cake? Why's nobody bitching about web developers declining to work on porn sites, for example?

      For that matter, we should champion bakeries that refuse to bake wedding cakes for minority or interracial couples.

    2. Re:The real issue. by Megol · · Score: 2

      Nobody bitches about the web developers as porn site operators aren't a group discriminated against. That's what that case was about - discrimination. If the bakery didn't bake wedding cakes for anybody there wouldn't be a problem, if they didn't bake it for a nazi wedding it wouldn't be a problem, if they didn't bake it because they didn't like the cut of their (the customers) jib it wouldn't be a problem. They refused to do it because the people ordering it were homosexuals. There are laws against discriminating for racial, sexual (and a lot of other) reasons so refusing due to that is against the law.

      NB that nowhere in the NT (and AFAIK not in the OT either) are there commandments to refuse homosexuals or other "sinners" service. Actually that idea goes directly against what Jesus preached!

      Personally I'd be okay with refusing service to homosexuals if they weren't the only "sinners" refused. I'd expect each potential customer to fill in a huge questionnaire with such questions like "have you ever touched a menstruating woman" and "have you ever said hard words against your parents".

  18. Who didn't see this? by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

    When I saw my boss's phone years ago had the ability to convert his phone messages into text, I knew we were officially living out 1984. We knew 10 years ago the phone companies were piping all their communications into a secret government room. You think they were just doing it to fight "turrists"?

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  19. The Wire. on HBO. watch it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It deals with the issues behind this kind of extreme action. Burner phones won't be private forever... perhaps we should have some methods provided so that they don't have to tap millions. That is, if they are allowed to tap us all... maybe giving means to tap a few of us isn't such a bad trade off?

  20. Ten cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's all your privacy is worth now.

  21. What the western world needs... by Kokuyo · · Score: 1

    ...and I don't just mean the US, is to rain the judicial equivalent of an Undertaker choke-slam upon government people who would abuse the law in such a fashion.

    Frankly, I think there should be a point in every constitution that someone abusing that which he is tasked to protect faces twice the penalty of someone who wasn't.

    1. Re:What the western world needs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, I've always said police and other folk involved in law and judicial posts should be subject to the maximum penalties as the defacto standard.

  22. Damn by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    McNulty, what the fuck did you do?

    1. Re: Damn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry, he got drunk again and abused another dead homeless man for his own sick gains. No ones counting. He just wanted to go back to the days of when they could tap the whole crew.

  23. Seems Inefficient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Considering NSA's been wiretapping hundreds of millions of lines everyday without a court order this news seems inefficient..

  24. Re:And we're supposed to believe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Er... what? Why would the Obama administration specifically target Trump and associates? Trump wasn't even a presidential candidate until Obama had exhausted his own term limit.

  25. No indictions? Too few wiretaps! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We have laws and rights for a reason: to balance cost and effect of interference in people's life.

  26. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pretty sure that this would fall under the unreasonable search clause of the U.S. Constitution

    1. Re:Hmm by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure that this would fall under the unreasonable search clause of the U.S. Constitution

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  27. sgt_doom by sgt_doom · · Score: 1

    The feebs can do ALL OF THIS, yet cannot arrest a single bankster responsible for the economic meltdown and continuing money laundering or Wells Fargo-like crimes? Oh, I forgot, Eric Holder . . . .(And Robert Swan Mueller III, and James Comey et al. Remember that dude, Swan, who was head of the FRBSF back in 1963 when millions of dollars of securities went missing?)

  28. Re:And we're supposed to believe... by BronsCon · · Score: 1

    I'm not saying the post you're replying to is right, but... You mean... in 2016... when this happened?

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  29. Interestingly, this story had... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No red white and blue donkey, and no mention of Obama in the synopsis even though this was DEMOCRAT president OBAMA.

    hmmmmm

    Why would I possibly imagine that if it had been under Bush or Trump (or counterfactually a president McCain or Romney) there would have been a red white and blue elephant, and the president's name.

    This is the sort of political bias in general journalism that so irritates people on the right.

    If Trump does this (far enough into his admin that it's HIS people doing it and not still Obama left-overs doing it), I'm fine with all the "F*** Trump!" postings that are likely to fly.... as long as they are by people who posted "F*** Obama!" when Obama did it. But if you were a "Praise be to Obama!" person as Obama did this stuff, then just sit down and shut up for the next 8 years; you're just a pathetic unprincipled partisan hack.

  30. pcc using google books and ceo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    pccheat

  31. Of Course not politically motivated or anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you believe that you are just as gullible as the media thinks you are!!!!

  32. Efficiency (or "I for one"...) by eric_harris_76 · · Score: 1

    All that snooping using just one search warrant? That's efficiency.

    I for one welcome our snoopy police state overlords.

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