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Tesla Factory Reportedly Described As a 'Predator Zone' By Female Employees (theverge.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: Tesla's Fremont factory was described by a female employee as a "predator zone" of harassment in a meeting attended by dozens of employees, according to a bombshell report in The Guardian. Other women recalled being catcalled by male employees, feeling unsafe around male managers, and being subjected to sexist comments by their superiors, the report states. For months, The Guardian has been tracking the case of AJ Vandermeyden, a former Tesla engineer who sued the electric automaker for "unwanted and pervasive harassment." In her suit, Vandermeyden alleges that she and other female employees were denied promotions, paid less than their male peers, and retaliated against after making their concerns known to human resources. Several months after making her claims publicly, Vandermeyden was fired by Tesla.
You know...maybe we just need to accept the fact, that given the sexual differences and relationships between men and women, that we really aren't that will built to co-mingle in the workforce.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
Let's take that assertion at face value. Further, let's even suppose that you are right. Now, we're the species that have risen from warlords and chieftains to a planet that is more democratic than not. We have eradicated deadly diseases. We have landed on the moon. So, should we just throw up our hands and say fuggedaboutit, or maybe, just maybe, we could work a little harder on problems like these, where the problem is essentially to tell a bunch of assholes (and the smaller group of management assholes who are enabling this) to stop being assholes?
Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
If you are criminally harassed, record and call the cops. For anything else consider that your safe zone doesn't extend past university campus, social studies faculty.
"to a planet that is more democratic than not. "
What is this planet you write of? It is unknown to me.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
I take no position on the merits of the case until more information is forthcoming, and neither should you. But to call any and all claims of harrassment "feminazi" is hateful.
Yes, I know Tesla is kind of a startup, but auto plants can be rough places in general. There's certainly no political correctness going on in the ones I've been in. Companies need to crack down on harassment, but singling out Tesla is hardly fair.
"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain
Except labor laws prohibit certain forms of harrassment at work even if they don't constitute criminal behavior.
Elon Musk is a progressive Clinton supporter. So are most Silicon Valley VCs and CEOs. The fact that these people and companies are constantly mired in misogyny and harassment claims neither surprises, nor prompts denials from, conservatives and libertarians. Why should it? It's not surprising to us that progressives and male "feminists" harass women.
So, when you talk about "misogynist scum", you perhaps need to be a bit clearer who you're talking about.
Sorry, I stopped doing other people's homework in High School. You are the one who made the claim that this planet is more democratic than not, so you are the one who needs to back that up.
As a kid, I wanted a bike but my parents couldn't afford it. I gave my children a new bike every year!
As a teenager, I mowed our lawn and the neighbor's too for pocket money. My children will never have to mow any lawn or need for money!
As a young adult, I had to work two jobs to buy my first car. I give my children a car when they are 16 years old!
My experiences shaped me, but I will always protect my children from having these experiences!
Despite all this, they are total failures. It's because of racism. They are white but they might as well be black!
Yikes, so much wrong with this.
Title says "Tesla Factory Reportedly Described As a 'Predator Zone' By Female Employees", but the first sentence says "Tesla's Fremont factory was described by a female employee...". So which one is it? Plural is quite different from singular.
Then, there's the story (I'm not even gonna touch the Verge crap, we all know it's an identity politics rag at this point). Let's see.
The theme for this year’s International Women’s Day was “be bold for change” in the fight for a “more gender inclusive world” – but some at Tesla had a different plan for the day.
Five seconds in, and we already know the author is an "I know what's best for everyone" type keyboard warrior. This does not bode well for objectivity.
It was an opportunity for women to discover essential oils. A “health and wellness group” at the electric car company invited female staff members to an 8 March “lunch ‘n learn” about oils and how they can help improve people’s “health and happiness”, according to emails seen by the Guardian, which reveal that the proposed event was quickly met with vocal criticism.
Starting off great with some outrage that women were offered a 'lunch 'n learn' about oils. It's a well known fact that women don't like such things, that's why there's no market for female skin care products or wellness products. But hey, don't let a multi-billion dollar market get in the way of your feminism, you know what's best for everyone. Stay strong.
Tesla postponed the oils session. The company organized a town hall meeting on diversity for that day, which included six male executives and one woman, according to multiple attendees.
Note that there weren't 7 women executives attending, which is how a correctly diversified workplace should look. If they're all black, that's even more diverse. Diversity means fewer dicks in well-paid positions (but screw coal mining and construction, those places are dangerous!). Also note that this point is according to multiple attendees, but doesn't mention if Vandermeyden is included.
At the crowded meeting at the Fremont factory, women took the microphone one-by-one and shared stories of sexual harassment, mistreatment by male managers, unfair promotion decisions and more, sources said.
Now suddenly, "sources said". It's no longer Vandermeyden? The author doesn't mention other people coming forward here...
Vandermeyden, who attended the meeting, thought the outpouring of comments validated her own story.
Oh, I guess we're back to Vandermeyden.
Testimony from the town hall – along with internal emails from Musk, and Vandermeyden’s first interview since her termination – paint a picture of a company that has struggled to respond to mounting complaints about gender discrimination and has aggressively attempted to discredit a woman who publicly criticized it .
Testimony from the Town Hall... according to Vandermeyden? This is starting to sound very fishy. Almost as if there's only a single source for the "sky is falling" claims.
Musk was not at the meeting, which was attended by roughly 70-100 people, and featured comments from more than 20 women, according to Vandermeyden and another attendee.
Ahh, so there it is. Vandermeyden and another attendee. Wait, why is the other attendee only mentioned now? Does that mean that the other attendee only validated this one thing? That there were "more than 20" women attending?
One woman described parts of the factory as a “predator zone” for harassment. When the moderator asked women in the room if they had ever been catcalled, a significant number of women raised their hands, according to Vander
"Musk was not at the meeting, which was attended by roughly 70-100 people, and featured comments from more than 20 women, according to Vandermeyden and another attendee. "
So no one could independently verify that 20 women actually made comments at this meeting, other than a Woman who is trying to sue Tesla over supposed discrimination, and some random, unnamed person? Those are what pass for sources enough to write an inflammatory article saying "DOZENS OF WOMEN CLAIM HARASSMENT" ?
A lot of people here seem to have their identity tied up very strongly with the idea that some men they don't know and have never met didn't harass anyone. It is impossible ot reason with someone who feels their very identity is at stake.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
A lot of people here seem to have their identity tied up very strongly with the idea that some men they don't know and have never met didn't harass anyone.
Wow. In the last 40 years there has grown a massive academic framework, new vocabulary, new "disciplines", new courses of study, and thousands if not millions of people who make a very good living based on the theory that there is and has always been an oppressive patriarchy that incidentally "hurts men too". And you don't think most or all of those people don't have their identity wrapped up in this belief?
Man, go to any college campus in the U.S. and challenge anyones beliefs on this topic and see what happens to you.
Samsung took back my unlocked bootloader because Google wants me to rent movies. They're both evil.