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SoundCloud Lays Off Nearly Half Its Staff, Closes Two Offices (bloomberg.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bloomberg: SoundCloud is cutting about 40 percent of its staff in a cost-cutting move the digital music service says will give it a better financial footing to compete against larger rivals Spotify and Apple. SoundCloud, which in January said it was at risk of running out of money, informed staff on Thursday that 173 jobs would be eliminated. It had 420 employees. The company's operations will be consolidated at its headquarters in Berlin and another office in New York. Offices in San Francisco and London will be shut.

"We need to ensure our path to long-term, independent success," Alex Ljung, the company's co-founder and chief executive officer, said in a blog post published on SoundCloud's website. He said the company has doubled its revenue over the past 12 months -- without providing specifics -- and that the cuts put it on a path to profitability.

51 comments

  1. Wait so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    A cloud based music service doesn't need an office in five of the most expensive cities in the world?

    1. Re:Wait so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A cloud based music service doesn't need an office in five of the most expensive cities in the world?

      OMG! Who knew???

      But seriously, this is the problem with so many companies today. And 420 employees? Doing what?

    2. Re:Wait so by lucm · · Score: 2

      having an office in an expensive city is the only way you can get mediocre leftover talent at minibar price.

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      lucm, indeed.
    3. Re:Wait so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Apparently Twitter does. From the Twitter web site:

      "We have over 35 offices around the world, and each one reflects the regional and cultural spirit of the cities they're in. Atlanta's conference rooms are named after southern hip-hop icons, local artists paint giant murals in our New York office, and Sydney has a panoramic view of the city and harbor from the 39th floor (make sure you check out the sunset). Explore below to see all our offices and the job openings available."

      I can't figure out why they aren't making money.

    4. Re:Wait so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Bunch of lazy, dick-sucking millennial faggots

      making more money than you.

    5. Re:Wait so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is obviously a lot of money wasting here, but these companies feed off of investors for survival. They need fancy offices to help project the image of success.

    6. Re:Wait so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't need to make money.

    7. Re: Wait so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      20 programmers, 10 accountants, 10 managers, 100 marketing millennials and 280 HR people ensuring that there are a sufficient variety of transgender bathrooms for the millennial marketing staff.

    8. Re:Wait so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Living comfortably in your tent under a bridge?

    9. Re:Wait so by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 0

      You can afford a bridge?

      Posted from under a tree.

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    10. Re:Wait so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have trees?

      Posted from a concrete jungle.

    11. Re:Wait so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why they couldn't afford to hire a programmer to add a god damned volume control to their website.

    12. Re:Wait so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Twitter is losing money and those vapid hipster cunts are the albatross.

    13. Re: Wait so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here I thought their offices were in "the cloud."

    14. Re: Wait so by dougdonovan · · Score: 1

      wow, global corporate investors must have done lunch on one yacht and decided to cut staff around the world to buy another yacht so their yacht help wouldnt have to live with the money people on their yacht. its only right. my wife and i dont let our housekeeper live with us either. shes only there 3 days a week.

    15. Re:Wait so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, I see what you did there.

    16. Re:Wait so by thomn8r · · Score: 1
      Concrete jungle? Luxury!

      We used to dream of living in a concrete jungle; we had to live in the lake!

    17. Re:Wait so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why should a website ever have an independent volume control? Isn't that something better handled by the operating system? The only thing web-based volume controls has done for me is confuse things. Clients ask "why is this so quiet? I have my computer turned all the way up!" Because YouTube started at half volume. As an audiovisual professional, I have to say, SoundCloud got this one right if they skipped the volume control.

    18. Re:Wait so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because sometimes you want to listen to two different things at the same time, and some sources are abysmally low in volume to begin with.

    19. Re: Wait so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, just their heads.

    20. Re: Wait so by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      Isn't that what Pulseaudio is for? Or is there still no sound mixing subsystem on Linux to pipe sound from more than one source to the speakers?

  2. Get ready people. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is just the beginning. We're in Dot-Com Bubble 2.0: Web Services Edition. Get ready for the collapse.

    1. Re:Get ready people. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Instead of bursting suddenly, the Doctcom 2.0 bubble is slowly leaking and deflating.

    2. Re:Get ready people. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry, there will be another global recession when fighting breaks out on the Korean Peninsula and the excess employment will be corrected. Maybe then I can finally buy a house in Silicon Valley without being outbid my Chinese millionaires paying cash.

    3. Re:Get ready people. by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Tech Crash in Seven Days For Head-First Dummies in a Nutshell Super-Bible Unleashed.

  3. The worst kind! by dohzer · · Score: 1

    420 employees are the worst kind of employees.

  4. The problem with free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    SoundCloud hosts music uploaded by indie content creators with very generous licenses. Their revenue stream seems to be audio and visual advertisements, a subscription service to listen ad free, and a service for creators to upload more music.

    The problem is that any downloadable song is immediately ripped and uploaded to YouTube under "free music aggregator" accounts, which YouTube then gets the ads revenue.

    I'm not surprised SoundCloud can't make any money.

    1. Re: The problem with free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a fan of Soundcloud, DJ tracks for events you can't attend in person, amateur remixes that can surpass what's popular mainstream, the sheer varietyof what you can find (made even easier now with the 'stations' feature). Sure some stuff is sub rate but the number of comments under a track help give a clue to what's good. Hope they make it.

    2. Re: The problem with free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SoundCloud is a good idea but even basic stuff doesn't work. Their iOS app never remembers where you are when you reopen it, for example. Can't search by song properties e.g. Show me mixes at least 1 hour long.

      You can have lots of "sharing" features but without attention to the basics I don't see them lasting too long...

    3. Re:The problem with free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Per Bloomberg article: SoundCloud has about 175 million listeners; Spotify and Apple Music are the two largest players in the on-demand streaming music business. Spotify said in June it has more than 140 million users and more than 50 million subscribers, while Apple said its music service has 27 million customers.

      So if SoundCloud truly has 175 million listeners and have to layoff off staff - they suck at doing business !

  5. The problem with people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People love monolithic centralization: Microsoft, Facebook, Twitter, Google, YouTube.

    SoundCloud is too small to succeed. The people won't allow it.

    1. Re:The problem with people by aevan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That would be too bad.

      One thing I love about soundcloud is the waveform 'position bar' with tagged comments. When a band hosts XFDs there, you can easily, visually skim the album and check the samples for each song in the mix. You can quickly can determine if you want to buy the album or not that way. I find it a lot more convenient than some mp3 or youtube version.

      On the other hand, searching for stuff on the site I find a horrid experience.

  6. 420 Employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really? For a website and a mobile app that stores and steams audio?

    o.O

    No offense to the SoundCloud guys but, uh... Damn...

  7. 420 Employees? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

    Divide that number by ten and then it will make sense.

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  8. Re:420 Employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Multiply it by 100 and you'll be approaching the total number of tech employees who are going to have lost their jobs by 2020.

  9. Re: MAGA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Oi, the frogs kicked the limeys arses on my behalf and now I'll just take all the credit.

    A poofter yank.

  10. Music service, yeah right, Escort service! by s1d3track3D · · Score: 1

    He said the company has doubled its revenue over the past 12 months -- without providing specifics -- and that the cuts put it on a path to profitability.

    So, they have finally figured out how to profit as an escort service. In my experience a majority of messages are like this, "I am sweet and sxxy ge with big heart who want to spend great time with you...", "I LOVE HAVING FUN with a REAL MAN!!!", etc...

  11. Berliner Hipsters with no Business Model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sorry guys this was just waiting to happen. Every start-up needs a "how do we make money" component in their model. Soundcloud never had one and have never managed to develop one.

    1. Re:Berliner Hipsters with no Business Model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In addition to the advertising, they might be serving as a farm team to big music labels, possibly even with exclusive deals and performance data on the artists. We might not hear the details about that, but it seems like a no-brainer.

  12. Desperate? by printwithstyle · · Score: 1

    Either this is the company taking the easy way (cop) out, or they are desperate , or a combination of both. Tsk. Tsk.

    1. Re:Desperate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is the point of your speculation, Michael? "Tsk. Tsk."

  13. Mobile App Killing Them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They locked down their mobile app so that you have to "sign in" (and a lot of people won't) to access the free music uploaded by uncompensated artists to their service. Their app will play whatever you click on in the web browser, but you can't control playback or navigate until you would "sign in" for tracking and monetization. ROVI is going down the same way, though they at least get some revenue from the initial sale of their hardware before customers hit that "WTF you want to track each of my jam sessions?" moment.

    SoundCloud could use some rebranding, tight integration with GarageBand/Logic/Ableton and a pop-culture spokesman.

  14. Merge? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    I expect another music/streaming service will buy them out.